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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2015 15:53:32 GMT -5
updated. All RPI numbers are the NCAA's RPi listed as of 11/23. Thanks for updating. Mo State's record should be: Overall 22-9 Conf. 13-5 Home 9-4 Away 9-4 Neutral 4-1 Fixed. Had not included their previous two wins last week in their overall record |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 24, 2015 15:55:23 GMT -5
Hawaii is ranked in the top 10. Pablo has them near there. Who exactly thinks the RPI is an accurate representation of the quality of the team? The NCAA. And, in the end, theirs is only opinion that matters, that has been made clear. AVCA and Pablo rankings are immaterial to the discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 16:10:26 GMT -5
Fine. Then that should be who he is directing his grief at.
I don't think it's true, however. The NCAA also knows what the RPI is and isn't. They do tweak it occasionally. But generally they just don't care enought to do anything about it. It would make their jobs more difficult. They sure as hell aren't going to make an exception for Hawaii alone.
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Post by southie on Nov 24, 2015 16:17:56 GMT -5
That would mean sending the Minnesota/Nebraska/Stanford/Ohio State bracket to Lexington, instead of the more logical location of Des Moines. Nebraska in the Des Moines regional could be the difference in 3-5,000 tickets. Hard to imagine they don't end up there as a 4,5,6 depending on how they finish this week. Lots of money at stake. Could be. But, why did the NCAA award a regional to Des Moines, IA if they were concerned about ticket sales to begin with based on the host school's chances of advancing to the sweet 16? I know Nebraska was the #12 last season, but sending them to Ames, IA instead of Seattle, WA would have helped ticket sales there, too; but, that wasn't the route taken. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 24, 2015 16:23:25 GMT -5
Fine. Then that should be who he is directing his grief at. I don't think it's true, however. The NCAA also knows what the RPI is and isn't. They do tweak it occasionally. But generally they just don't care enought to do anything about it. It would make their jobs more difficult. They sure as hell aren't going to make an exception for Hawaii alone. Who will get Hawai'i? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 16:25:36 GMT -5
Hey, who knows? They could fly them to Minnesota for round 2. The perils of not seeding 32 teams.
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Post by pineapple on Nov 24, 2015 16:29:44 GMT -5
Hawaii is ranked in the top 10. Pablo has them near there. Who exactly thinks the RPI is an accurate representation of the quality of the team? The NCAA. And, in the end, theirs is only opinion that matters, that has been made clear. AVCA and Pablo rankings are immaterial to the discussion. Ruffda is being ironic. |
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Post by southie on Nov 24, 2015 16:34:21 GMT -5
You're assuming regional host Kentucky gets sent to the Louisville sub-regional (which is very logical), but I believe they could easily be sent to the Ohio State sub-regional, as well. That would mean sending the Minnesota/Nebraska/Stanford/Ohio State bracket to Lexington, instead of the more logical location of Des Moines. I know we're all just projecting, but there really is no reason to worry about where Minnesota and USC are going as they have solidified Top 3 national seeds, and with Kentucky not in line to host a sub-regional, they have no impact on preventing USC from being placed in San Diego and Minnesota being placed in Des Moines. Kentucky will get sent to a sub-regional (driving or flying) that will be hosted bythe #4, 5, 12, or 13 seeds. The only caveat now is they can't be sent to fellow SEC sub-regional host schools like Florida, A&M, and Mizzou. |
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Post by n00b on Nov 24, 2015 17:00:18 GMT -5
Nebraska in the Des Moines regional could be the difference in 3-5,000 tickets. Hard to imagine they don't end up there as a 4,5,6 depending on how they finish this week. Lots of money at stake. Didn't stop them from messing up the Minneapolis regional last year. The Nebraska exception needs to stop. No one else gets it. Nebraska doesn't get it either. People are totally making it up. The last four times Nebraska didn't host a regional they were sent to Seattle, Honolulu, Seattle and Seattle. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 17:04:01 GMT -5
The NCAA. And, in the end, theirs is only opinion that matters, that has been made clear. AVCA and Pablo rankings are immaterial to the discussion. Ruffda is being ironic. Beats being moronic, my usual mode. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 24, 2015 17:39:34 GMT -5
Beats being moronic, my usual mode. False dichotomy |
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Post by bkedane on Nov 24, 2015 17:58:53 GMT -5
Hawaii is ranked in the top 10. Pablo has them near there. Who exactly thinks the RPI is an accurate representation of the quality of the team? The NCAA. And, in the end, theirs is only opinion that matters, that has been made clear. AVCA and Pablo rankings are immaterial to the discussion. Where does the NCAA take the position that RPI is an accurate representation of the quality of a team? They use RPI as a major factor in the selection process. That doesn't commit them to any belief about RPI accurately measuring how good a team is does it? No committee member I've spoken with has said that RPI accurately measures team quality. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 18:06:21 GMT -5
Beats being moronic, my usual mode. False dichotomy False or true, I still have my dich. What are you talking about? |
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Post by nakedcrayon on Nov 24, 2015 18:11:35 GMT -5
AVCA rank of # 8, but only 25 RPI. The committee seeds according to RPI. Actually, not really. They use it, but it's not nearly as relied upon as it is for selection. For seeding, they pay a lot more attention to the nitty-gritty. Things like top 25 wins and top 50. Of course, that doesn't help Hawaii (1-1, 2-1 against the top 50 overall) in the least, as they don't compare well to the other teams. Who are you going to jump them over, aside from Arkansas St? Texas A&M? 1-1 top 25, 4-2 top 50. Kentucky? 2-7, 2-9. Yeah, lots of losses, but lots of top 25 matches, too. Louisville? 2-5, 6-5. Not even close. And all of these teams have the advantage of having better RPI ranks, better SOS, better good wins than Hawaii. By committee criteria, Hawaii's not in the running for a seed. While I agree Hawaii should be higher ranked. TAMU is 5-4 against top 25, 7-4 against top 50. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 24, 2015 18:57:00 GMT -5
Hawaii is ranked in the top 10. Pablo has them near there. Who exactly thinks the is an accurate representation of the quality of the team? The NCAA. And, in the end, theirs is only opinion that matters, that has been made clear. AVCA and Pablo rankings are immaterial to the discussion. No, but they certainly add to the "cognitive dissonance" surrounding the selection/seeding process, at least for the average fan. |
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