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Post by huskerjen on Feb 13, 2016 15:49:32 GMT -5
However, despite my request for details, no Nebraska fan has seen fit to identify who any of these walk-ons were. It's because we've exhausted our ability to care. Husker fans are concerned with this year's team trying to repeat as national champions and the elite recruits our coaches are adding to future rosters. Thanks for caring so much about our former rosters and transfer players. It's indicative of what it's like being a UW fan right now; is your program's fight song the Price is Right fail horn?
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Post by notwvb on Feb 13, 2016 17:45:24 GMT -5
However, despite my request for details, no Nebraska fan has seen fit to identify who any of these walk-ons were. ...is your program's fight song the Price is Right fail horn? Inadvertently clicked the "like" button above instead of "quote" button, although I do like it in the sense that this is rich offseason material. I seriously doubt redbeard has ever watched the Price is Right. Until now, I didn't know anyone who has or is that familiar with it. Fan favorite show in NE?
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Post by redbeard2008 on Feb 13, 2016 19:15:44 GMT -5
However, despite my request for details, no Nebraska fan has seen fit to identify who any of these walk-ons were. It's because we've exhausted our ability to care. Husker fans are concerned with this year's team trying to repeat as national champions and the elite recruits our coaches are adding to future rosters. Thanks for caring so much about our former rosters and transfer players. It's indicative of what it's like being a UW fan right now; is your program's fight song the Price is Right fail horn? My interest was spurred due to Nebraska fans "bragging" about how many Nebraska players had transferred to other schools. Seemed an odd thing to be proud of. The objection has been raised twice that some of the transfers were walk-ons. If you or other Nebraska fans don't care to say which ones, fine. I could tell you who Washington's walk-ons were, in a snap.
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Post by jasonr on Feb 13, 2016 22:06:37 GMT -5
...is your program's fight song the Price is Right fail horn? Inadvertently clicked the "like" button above instead of "quote" button, although I do like it in the sense that this is rich offseason material. I seriously doubt redbeard has ever watched the Price is Right. Until now, I didn't know anyone who has or is that familiar with it. Fan favorite show in NE? I'd guess they're too busy re-watching championship highlights.
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Post by owlsem on Feb 14, 2016 9:59:49 GMT -5
However, despite my request for details, no Nebraska fan has seen fit to identify who any of these walk-ons were. It's because we've exhausted our ability to care. Husker fans are concerned with this year's team trying to repeat as national champions and the elite recruits our coaches are adding to future rosters. Thanks for caring so much about our former rosters and transfer players. It's indicative of what it's like being a UW fan right now; is your program's fight song the Price is Right fail horn? it does not matter how the program works? The end justifies the means? WOW! duly noted
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Post by coloradokidd on Feb 14, 2016 14:58:56 GMT -5
My interest was spurred due to Nebraska fans "bragging" about how many Nebraska players had transferred to other schools. Seemed an odd thing to be proud of. I have to side with the players on this issue; because if it were "I" in their shoes, I would do the same thing. I have no problem with a non-scholarship volleyball player transferring from NE, or for that matter any other school, to a school that will offer them a scholarship -> $$$. And I have no problem with a 'non-starting' scholarship volleyball player with no future hope of that changing (starting), transferring to a school to where they can start -> fulfill their dreams. The former transfer players from NE that I have witnessed are on seemingly very good terms with the school, and especially with their former NE teammates. As a fan; I am personally very supportive of a former NE transfer player succeeding, and I fondly remember the time they shared with the Husker team. Sorry if you thought it was "bragging" by me and others; maybe just a little pride.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Feb 14, 2016 15:23:35 GMT -5
I don't understand why redbeard2008 is attempting to turn this into some sort of scandal aside from a bizarre personal vendetta against Nebraska.
It makes sense that the schools with the highest amount of transfers would be at the top and the bottom. Nebraska can be argued as the most storied NCAA women's volleyball program in the nation. The desire and draw to the program is at the highest level of the sport. An athlete can surely think "okay, I know I'll have to fight it out for playing time here but if I don't make it on the court that's okay, I just want to be a part of this legacy". And for some that stays true and for others they may realize their desire to be on the court is stronger.
To say that coming to college and learning more about themselves and what they need and desire is wrong and they should sit there not thriving is totally backwards.
Per the conversations I've had with players who've transferred, there's no evidence of ill-intention on the part of the coaching staff. With the availability of social media, if there were it would be out there for all to hear. So for now just save your effort and fixate on some other "problem".
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Post by vbct3 on Feb 14, 2016 15:32:32 GMT -5
I am often more apt to lean towards the players in transfer scenarios.
You will find transfers out of large successful programs such as Nebraska or Washington or elsewhere all the time. Regardless of if they are walk-ons or scholarship players, sometimes they find it within themselves that they just want to play some ball. Sometimes the goal or winning a championship with the team is more of a nice-to-have versus the end goal. Riding the bench and getting token minutes in practice at Nebraska, or starting at a smaller mid-major and getting primary reps? It's easy to understand why some kids transfer out.
Of course, this is only a subset of the scenarios why kids may transfer, but i can't fault the players for trying to find a better situation for them personally.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Feb 14, 2016 17:14:50 GMT -5
I don't understand why redbeard2008 is attempting to turn this into some sort of scandal aside from a bizarre personal vendetta against Nebraska. I left the school I was referring to unmentioned. Someone else identified it as Nebraska. I only provided the list of Nebraska transfers I had compiled after a Nebraska fan erroneously claimed they only had 7 transfers in nine years. Other posters identified 3 additional transfers, for a total of 18 in 10 years. I still would like to know who the "non-scholarship" transfers are. I'm not doubting that some are, and do agree it is relevant.
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Post by Hawk Attack on Feb 14, 2016 18:18:05 GMT -5
I don't understand why redbeard2008 is attempting to turn this into some sort of scandal aside from a bizarre personal vendetta against Nebraska. I left the school I was referring to unmentioned. Someone else identified it as Nebraska. I only provided the list of Nebraska transfers I had compiled after a Nebraska fan erroneously claimed they only had 7 transfers in nine years. Other posters identified 3 additional transfers, for a total of 18 in 10 years. I still would like to know who the "non-scholarship" transfers are. I'm not doubting that some are, and do agree it is relevant. The question you're begging for an answer to is why do so many players transfer out of Nebraska? To which I'd say if you're so fixated with it go figure it out on your own. Go talk to players who've left, graduated players, people in the program, don't care who but the answer you want to hear is not an answer you're going to get because it isn't true. You're looking for someone to affirm that these transfers have left the program because the coaching staff pushed them out. And since that's very simply just not accurate stop wasting everyone's time and go obsess about it offline.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Feb 14, 2016 19:28:16 GMT -5
I left the school I was referring to unmentioned. Someone else identified it as Nebraska. I only provided the list of Nebraska transfers I had compiled after a Nebraska fan erroneously claimed they only had 7 transfers in nine years. Other posters identified 3 additional transfers, for a total of 18 in 10 years. I still would like to know who the "non-scholarship" transfers are. I'm not doubting that some are, and do agree it is relevant. The question you're begging for an answer to is why do so many players transfer out of Nebraska? To which I'd say if you're so fixated with it go figure it out on your own. Go talk to players who've left, graduated players, people in the program, don't care who but the answer you want to hear is not an answer you're going to get because it isn't true. You're looking for someone to affirm that these transfers have left the program because the coaching staff pushed them out. And since that's very simply just not accurate stop wasting everyone's time and go obsess about it offline. I've never claimed to know why any of the players mentioned transferred. I don't discount that there might be perfectly innocent explanations for many, or even most of them. However, 18 transfers in ten years, for whatever reasons, is still a mindbogglingly high number, except apparently to diehard Nebraska fans. You're the one claiming certain knowledge here ("it isn't true"), not I.
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Post by nevollfan on Feb 28, 2016 0:37:17 GMT -5
Just came over to look at this thread. Impressive research redbeard2008. You want to know if any of the 18 transfers since 2004 are "true" walk-ons. I think no. I believe there are 5 girls at NU since 2004 who transferred out that were recruited walk-ons. All 5 were on the official roster but received no scholarship money for the 12 team total. They are: 2010 (M Pendergast), 2011 (S Winkelmann), 2013 (B Lyles) and (S Zarda), 2014 (A Ethridge). All 5 total were libero/defensive specialist types. I think all transferred for the usual reasons: home sickness, more playing time and better opportunity to start. Hope that helps.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Feb 29, 2016 14:08:06 GMT -5
Just came over to look at this thread. Impressive research redbeard2008. You want to know if any of the 18 transfers since 2004 are "true" walk-ons. I think no. I believe there are 5 girls at NU since 2004 who transferred out that were recruited walk-ons. All 5 were on the official roster but received no scholarship money for the 12 team total. They are: 2010 (M Pendergast), 2011 (S Winkelmann), 2013 (B Lyles) and (S Zarda), 2014 (A Ethridge). All 5 total were libero/defensive specialist types. I think all transferred for the usual reasons: home sickness, more playing time and better opportunity to start. Hope that helps. Thanks for this. I added this information to my previous post detailing the 18 transfers out. Personally, I think that non-scholarship athletes should be able to transfer freely (coaches need a permission to contact and the athletes need a waiver to avoid sitting out). 13 transfers out of scholarship athletes over ten years is still a very high number, it seems to me.
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