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Post by GatorVball on Dec 22, 2003 23:25:13 GMT -5
1995, CSUN was coached by Dr. Lian Lu, a he. I wasn't sure about NMU, so I guess 1995 was the only non female coach year, although 2001 would've counted and was non female when it was set.
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Post by beachman on Dec 22, 2003 23:31:17 GMT -5
They are already scheduled to play next year, doubt they'll put them in a tourney where they could potentially meet up again, or they might, who knows. I'd love to see Florida there again, but don't think they'll get the invite. I think we'll see Penn State and Nebraska, along with USC and CSU Your suggestion would be a very good one......
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Post by GatorVball on Dec 22, 2003 23:49:31 GMT -5
If you look at the history of the NACWAA, there are just certain teams they love to invite. Penn State and NU being 2 of those, both having been invited 4 times, along with Florida. Stanford and Hawaii 3 times, this will be the 3rd for USC if they get picked. This will be CSU's 2nd trip, tying them with Pacific and Wisconsin. I'd say they'd invite Stanford, but not with USC winning the title, only 1 PAC-10 team. Maybe USC will pass it up, as some teams have done in the past.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Dec 23, 2003 5:24:25 GMT -5
Is the host for the NACWAA just selected at random or are the teams that are suppose to be a force that year?
Because I don't ever remember Illinois State being a force or New Mexico. So how is the host team determined? Do they have to bid to host the NACWAA?
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Post by Gymm on Dec 23, 2003 16:22:00 GMT -5
My picks:
CSU, Pepperdine, USC & Illinois
UCSB, Ga. Tech. next in line
If not USC, then I think they'd take Arizona over Washington because of the closer fan base.
I think they'd want a Pac-10 team involved this year because of the potential draw of fans due the tournaments location.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Dec 23, 2003 16:41:36 GMT -5
I like the idea of the other two teams ( aside from CSU and USC ) being from the midwest and east regions. Pepperdine was already part of the tournament in 2002 so I don't think they'll be invited.
Illinois and Georgia Tech would be good invite teams even though both teams lose Key players.
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Post by roy on Dec 23, 2003 16:55:46 GMT -5
I like the idea of the other two teams ( aside from CSU and USC ) being from the midwest and east regions. Pepperdine was already part of the tournament in 2002 so I don't think they'll be invited. Illinois and Georgia Tech would be good invite teams even though both teams lose Key players. The 2004 State Farm Classic feels a lot like the 2000 competition. Aside from USC and CSU, there really is no obvious team to invite. In the past couple of years, it was easy to get the top teams, since most didn't lose many of their key players. in 2001, it was obvious that Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Hawaii were obvious choices. 2002 with Stanford, UNI, Pepperdine, and Minnesota were also pretty clear choices as all did well leading into the post season in the previous year. 2003 was also very clear as to who the participants could be. 2004, no one is a really clear choice.
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Post by beachman on Dec 23, 2003 17:31:03 GMT -5
Is the host for the NACWAA just selected at random or are the teams that are suppose to be a force that year? Because I don't ever remember Illinois State being a force or New Mexico. So how is the host team determined? Do they have to bid to host the NACWAA? There is an application process, or bid if you will, that the prospective host must go through....not sure what it entails exactly...
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Post by TheSantaBarbarian on Dec 23, 2003 19:21:25 GMT -5
1995, CSUN was coached by Dr. Lian Lu, a he. I wasn't sure about NMU, so I guess 1995 was the only non female coach year, although 2001 would've counted and was non female when it was set. BTW: As much as I love Liu and he got me really started following Women's Vball, I have to metion something. He is not a Dr. That is a title he granted himself after he decided that he had done as much as others who had gotten their doctorate through a granting institution. That info was actually part of his bio on the CSUN website.
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Post by aaronic on Dec 23, 2003 19:49:53 GMT -5
How 'bout CSU, Arizona(a team that I am anxious to see), Minnesota(so sue me)(no, really don't), and perhaps that last spot going to either Nebraska/UCSB/Ga-Tech/just basically a wild card team.
I think they might want to represent each conference. Okay, if they already were doing that then sorry cause I did not know.
The hardest on is the PAC-10 because there are sooo many good competitive teams, I went with Ariz. because I think that they are the so called "dark horse" next year. In a close second, UCLA/CAL.
Next, I went with Minnesota, dangit so what if they already played in 2002, I really want to see them play. But, if they can't play in it, than i'd like to see Penn St. or Louisville.
As for the last spot, hmmm.. I honestly do not know. However, I am really curious to see what John Cook can put together with a talented roster. Or may'be I just want to see Pavan. I want to see what all the hype is all about(on paper, a 6-5 setter is crazy). Hey btw, Cook COULD use a 6-2, and COULD possibly be quite sucessful.
I would want to see Ga-Tech more than UCSB, but to keep it even amongst the Midwestern/Eastern schools you never know.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Dec 24, 2003 6:50:40 GMT -5
The 2004 State Farm Classic feels a lot like the 2000 competition. Aside from USC and CSU, there really is no obvious team to invite. In the past couple of years, it was easy to get the top teams, since most didn't lose many of their key players. in 2001, it was obvious that Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Hawaii were obvious choices. 2002 with Stanford, UNI, Pepperdine, and Minnesota were also pretty clear choices as all did well leading into the post season in the previous year. 2003 was also very clear as to who the participants could be. 2004, no one is a really clear choice. Hawai`i actually turned out to be not so great of a choice for the 2001 NACWAA after losing Lily Kahumoku in the off-season as well as Veronica Lima, Jen Saleaumua who didn't end up coming to UH as well as Jen Fopma.
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Post by roy on Dec 24, 2003 14:19:54 GMT -5
Hawai`i actually turned out to be not so great of a choice for the 2001 NACWAA after losing Lily Kahumoku in the off-season as well as Veronica Lima, Jen Saleaumua who didn't end up coming to UH as well as Jen Fopma. Yes, but they commit to the tournament before everything unfolded with the UH players. Hawaii would have only lost 1 started in Sudduth, and Willoughby looked prime to take her position. Add that Saleaumua was on her way to come in and take the right side, Hawaii was certainly on their way to being a top 3 team that year, thus making they a great choice for the tournament.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Dec 24, 2003 22:28:48 GMT -5
Yes, but they commit to the tournament before everything unfolded with the UH players. Hawaii would have only lost 1 started in Sudduth, and Willoughby looked prime to take her position. Add that Saleaumua was on her way to come in and take the right side, Hawaii was certainly on their way to being a top 3 team that year, thus making they a great choice for the tournament. Yeah I know I was just stating what ended up happening.
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Post by IdahoBoy on Dec 30, 2003 4:13:40 GMT -5
IdahoBoy's Dream NACWAA Matchup:
USC does not go.
Colorado State (host) Tom Hilbert Idaho (former TH assistant, now UI head coach) Debbie Buchanan Southwest Missouri State (former TH assistant, now SWMS head coach) Melissa Stokes UCLA (Banachowski's last NACWAA?)
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Post by Wolfgang on Jan 11, 2004 11:45:22 GMT -5
Okay kids, listen up. I had a dream last night. I was browsing at a bookstore at Stanford and some Stanford men's vb players were there. Their head coach Don Shaw was seated at a table near the entrance. Then, one of his players (it looked like Curt Toppel but it couldn't be because I think Toppel already used up his eligibility) asked Shaw if he had the inside scoop on the identities of the NACWAA participants were for 2004. He said he did. They are:
Colorado State Bradley Pacific
I couldn't make out the fourth team but it wasn't USC or Florida. It's possible he said Oregon State.
This is an actual dream. I didn't make this up.
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