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Post by Reach on Aug 14, 2016 17:04:41 GMT -5
So the sets to the rightside are all over the place and just mostly bad. Murphy over Lowe at this point is because Murphy makes better decisions with inconsistent sets.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 17:14:34 GMT -5
They don't have to be on the court together, I just want to see Carli and Karsta play an extended period and not just as subs... You probably will at some point depending on who we play. Chill bro... No, you won't. 1) There are no matches where you can experiment, and 2) they are never going to start; that's not their roles. They are there for the double sub. Period. One entry. 6 subs. Them's the rules. The USA had 4 years to figure out what they want to do. They aren't going to abandon it in the Olympic tournament. |
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Post by shawty on Aug 14, 2016 17:21:39 GMT -5
They don't have to be on the court together, I just want to see Carli and Karsta play an extended period and not just as subs... The team is undefeated. What does it matter who plays? vbnerd it doesn't change the past but the competition is about to get much harder. I just hope Karch will put the right people in the right situations. He made that adjustment with Italy. It may come to it again. |
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Post by vboldskool on Aug 14, 2016 18:03:29 GMT -5
How about Glass-Lowe rather than Lloyd-Lowe? They don't have to be on the court together, I just want to see Carli and Karsta play an extended period and not just as subs... I'd say you'll see just that vs Japan. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 14, 2016 18:22:59 GMT -5
China really made a mistake leaving off Zeng and Shen. They had been a big part of China's improvement over the quad, and it's clear Wei isn't close to healthy enough if Ding isn't getting the hook with how she's playing. I know Zhang has played a lot of opposite, but she looked out of sorts over there and Hui was a huge liability for 3/4 of the match.
USA just has too much going for them. Foluke is in destroy everything mode. I really like Robo's energy and her attacking mentality.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Aug 14, 2016 18:29:55 GMT -5
Ok I'll start with the bad. Serving still isn't it where it needs to be. They mentioned in the broadcast that the practice gym doesn't have enough approach space to the service line that could be messing with the players. That's not a very good excuse though. Karchs mentality was abandon the attack serve due to error but with all these float serves netting or going out I am not sure if they need to mix it up or something. We helped gift the first set to China with those errors.
Performance wise. Glass had arguably her worst setting performance. The middles are always adjusting to her and Foluke consistently bails her out with her athleticism but those sets just aren't there especially today. The first set she was under setting and misplacing the outside, and all match the opposite, she never looked quite comfortable. Adams was not on, her serve was non-existent and her blocking and hitting weren't there today. Murphy hitting angle seam isn't gonna get it done. She needs to turn line and mix up her shots the defense adjusted to her and she was largely ineffective most of the match. The opposite is a big question mark cause Lowe didn't have it either and her leash is shorter than Murphys but it seems Lowe just tried to power through the block instead of being aware of it and trying to adjust. Hill was a clear target on serve and in the scouting report. She was ineffective from the service line usually where she is good. Not much was working for her today.
Now on to the good. I'll start with Glass I ride her hard on her setting but damn does she have hustle her good defense and never quit on the floor is very good. She keeps balls alive. The floor D from everyone I felt did a very good job of adjusting to China's shots they were digging bombs from Zhu. Larson was using every shot in the book today and she is so smart. I love how she makes the right decision like 90% of the time. Robinson came in and cleaned up the passing woes which is her role but she had a few good kills. Dietzen came in and did a good job, she still has it, had kills, she stepped up. We have a wealth of players who step in off the bench. This is a good thing going forward.
A win is a win, so now on to the big show. Rewards for playing in a tough pool and winning the 1 seed is an easier quarterfinal match. But no let from here on in we need to bring our A game. Let's Go USA!!! Go for Gold!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 20:13:18 GMT -5
I find it amusing when outsiders (anyone not in the gym everyday) say what teams should be doing. It seems to me that a staff of four(?) who sees the players everyday for four years would have a pretty good grasp of their team. It reminds me of when parents call the Dean to complain about my course material that their kids don't like.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 20:17:31 GMT -5
Ok I'll start with the bad. Serving still isn't it where it needs to be. Pretty good after g1, I thought. |
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 14, 2016 20:37:43 GMT -5
Speaking of Glass's setting, how much can she improve and adjust, realistically?
You can have a good game day or bad game day, but at this late stage, can Glass really make a quantum leap in performance one game to the next?
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Post by BeiBei on Aug 14, 2016 21:51:14 GMT -5
China really made a mistake leaving off Zeng and Shen. They had been a big part of China's improvement over the quad, and it's clear Wei isn't close to healthy enough if Ding isn't getting the hook with how she's playing. I know Zhang has played a lot of opposite, but she looked out of sorts over there and Hui was a huge liability for 3/4 of the match. USA just has too much going for them. Foluke is in destroy everything mode. I really like Robo's energy and her attacking mentality. JLP makes a bad decision. I don't understand why she picked Yan Ni. She offers NOTHING! JLP has overachieved at every major tournaments either as a player or head coach. This will be the first time she falls short if China exits in the QFs Karch is so far 3 for 3 against JLP at the majors with the loss of only two sets. This is a very poor service receive Chinese team and their current libero is the worst I seen on that team |
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 14, 2016 22:05:52 GMT -5
China really made a mistake leaving off Zeng and Shen. They had been a big part of China's improvement over the quad, and it's clear Wei isn't close to healthy enough if Ding isn't getting the hook with how she's playing. I know Zhang has played a lot of opposite, but she looked out of sorts over there and Hui was a huge liability for 3/4 of the match. USA just has too much going for them. Foluke is in destroy everything mode. I really like Robo's energy and her attacking mentality. JLP makes a bad decision. I don't understand why she picked Yan Ni. She offers NOTHING! JLP has overachieved at every major tournaments either as a player or head coach. This will be the first time she falls short if China exits in the QFs Karch is so far 3 for 3 against JLP at the majors with the loss of only two sets. This is a very poor service receive Chinese team and their current libero is the worst I seen on that team Which brings to mind one thing: What was Lang Ping thinking? Terrible roster selection I'll say. I wonder though, given the way the Chinese system can operate, whether roster choices really came down to Lang. Perhaps the higher up Chinese officials didn't like Lang's initial selection and insisted on her to bring players that the officials want instead. In effect, Lang may have been overruled in terms of roster. So Lang bears the blame if that fails (and evidently it has), while these behind-the-scenes officials escape without censure. Typically corrupt and unaccountable Chinese system, hehe. |
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Post by speegs13 on Aug 14, 2016 22:08:27 GMT -5
Wasn't Zeng Chunlei coming off of injury? She may not have been 100%
Leaving Shen Jingsi off still boggles my mind
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 14, 2016 22:21:44 GMT -5
Wasn't Zeng Chunlei coming off of injury? She may not have been 100% Leaving Shen Jingsi off still boggles my mind I'm told by my Chinese friend that Shen wasn't in form either. Don't know how true that is, but Shen was seen as too slow and heavy to be a top pick for a setter. Anyone who understand Chinese here to confirm or reject that idea? |
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Aug 15, 2016 0:35:18 GMT -5
Mostly wanted to read this thread to see how many people trashed Murphy. Not that bad, thank you. I sort of agree that Glass's rightside setting ain't that consistent, but most of those balls that Murphy had blocked were hittable. I think she needs to establish her line/tool hit to open up her devastating cross-court. The block in this match was just taking away her cross, but she was still able to beat it a little. Setting lefties is tricky. Technically, the set goes to the same spot as it does with righties, but most lefties prefer more inside than righties do in hitting on the left. Lowe is still a work in progress, but when she's on, she can be explosive. She's still not used to having to hit high hands. Murphy still plays better defense and blocks better. What did everybody think of Dietzen? And geez Louise, go to the window Kelsey!
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Post by BadtzMaru on Aug 15, 2016 8:24:18 GMT -5
I hope Hill finds her confidence and gets her groove back. Kelsey surprised and delighted me in the front row, though. She's got power, range and all the shots... that roll shot over the block was flawless! Foluke has to win best middle blocker this tournament...Larson was steady and solid and is really hitting the ball with some extra oomph... must be the spinach. Murphy needs more range and better footwork... I'm surprised... she's been on the team for four years and her approach his not improved much. Lowe is going to be a stud in four years...she looks like a deer caught in the headlights. Whereas Glass' inconsistency frustrates me no end, her leadership, blocking and floor defense have impressed. I don't see her starting in 2020. I hope the team as a whole can get it's serving back...I also hope the Dutch pull a serious upset in the cross-over... I hope Serbia collapses under the pressure. I hope for world peace. I hope to find a good pair of reasonably-priced jeans at the mall next week...
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