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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 14, 2016 21:52:42 GMT -5
Gatlin ran a great race, that long stride of Bolt's is just impossible to beat
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 23:00:07 GMT -5
Gatlin is a great sprinter, he just ran into the greatest of all time. It's like being Karl Malone or Charles Barkley in the Michael Jordan era. |
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Post by ironhammer on Aug 15, 2016 0:56:24 GMT -5
Different sports, but Bolt vs Phelps, who is the greatest Olympic Champion?
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Post by jmd207 on Aug 15, 2016 1:19:41 GMT -5
Different sports, but Bolt vs Phelps, who is the greatest Olympic Champion? Hard to say but, Bolt has not lost... |
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Post by volleyfan24 on Aug 15, 2016 5:07:56 GMT -5
Different sports, but Bolt vs Phelps, who is the greatest Olympic Champion? Phelps he competed for nearly 2 decades. Most Olympic golds by one athlete. It's not a debate if whether Michael is the best swimmer ever and he could be arrogant but is not. I have never been a fan of Bolt his showboating and general bad attitude to me is such a turn off. A great athlete but not the best Olympic a Champion ever. That title belongs to Phelps. |
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Post by akbar on Aug 15, 2016 6:36:55 GMT -5
The arguement would be for Phelps because of longevity, dominance and wins in so many disciplines of the sport.
However, considering the quality of athletes that compete in sprinting from around the world it is hard not to acknowledge Bolt.
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Post by gobruins on Aug 15, 2016 9:34:22 GMT -5
So...is there still any question that Bolt is the greatest 100m sprinter? I don't think so. Seriously, Gatlin at 34 is done after this Olympics. He gave it his best, but Bolt is in a class of his own...again. Gatlin could come back in 2020, if he doesn't have to serve a 3rd drug suspension. |
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Post by downtheline on Aug 15, 2016 11:23:18 GMT -5
Bolt is very fun to watch. It's been exciting to see him over the years.
I don't agree that others are slowing down during the race, being 6'5" it takes him slightly longer to reach max speed and its proven he's taking 3-4 less strides than his competitors.
His personality makes him unique and fun loving. It shows you can be outgoing and engaging up until he's set in the blocks and still trample the serious and stoic athletes.
Watching clips of some of his workouts shows he augments his God given talents with extreme training regimes. Then he goes out and makes it all look so easy.
That is the mark of a world champion.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 15, 2016 11:47:49 GMT -5
I have never been a fan of Bolt his showboating and general bad attitude to me is such a turn off. When I hear this kind of stuff, I have to wonder ... have you ever been the best in the world at anything? |
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 15, 2016 11:48:59 GMT -5
I don't agree that others are slowing down during the race Huh. I guess you don't believe much in "clocks" and such. |
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Post by volleyfan24 on Aug 15, 2016 12:26:34 GMT -5
I have never been a fan of Bolt his showboating and general bad attitude to me is such a turn off. When I hear this kind of stuff, I have to wonder ... have you ever been the best in the world at anything? Have you?? Most people won't ever experience that level of success in their lifetimes. There are a lot of athletes that are the best in the world at their respective sports that aren't arrogant. Their is something to be said of being gracious in success and in defeat. An athlete is nothing without their competitors they are the best too that's what makes their success so impressive is they are beating others who are at the top as well. There are plenty of athletes who can say they are the best in their respective sports at one time or another and are not cocky. I gave one example in Phelps but Durant the year he won MVP, even Simone Biles, Walsh-Jennings have all been called the best ever in their respective sports. I prefer my athletes to compete with class and grace than a bad attitude. If you are the best in the world or at the time and the gap is that big, let your success speak for itself. It usually does. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 15, 2016 12:40:08 GMT -5
When I hear this kind of stuff, I have to wonder ... have you ever been the best in the world at anything? Have you?? Most people won't ever experience that level of success in their lifetimes. There are a lot of athletes that are the best in the world at their respective sports that aren't arrogant. Their is something to be said of being gracious in success and in defeat. An athlete is nothing without their competitors they are the best too that's what makes their success so impressive is they are beating others who are at the top as well. There are plenty of athletes who can say they are the best in their respective sports at one time or another and are not cocky. I gave one example in Phelps but Durant the year he won MVP, even Simone Biles, Walsh-Jennings have all been called the best ever in their respective sports. I prefer my athletes to compete with class and grace than a bad attitude. If you are the best in the world or at the time and the gap is that big, let your success speak for itself. It usually does. What "bad attitude"? It looks like he's out there having fun. (Oh, and the answer is yes. And it's very annoying when people who haven't done what you do try to tell you that you are doing it the wrong way.) |
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Post by Northern lights on Aug 15, 2016 13:31:58 GMT -5
Usain Bolt comes from the most humble of beginnings in Jamaica, and his parents, -who are still together- live in and own the house he grew up in. Jamaica is a very Christian country, both Bolt and Jamaicans, see his speed as a gift for him, and their country.
It's a great story, Track and Field in Jamaica. They celebrate it.
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Post by msrsv on Aug 15, 2016 13:41:43 GMT -5
And he started slow too I might add, before catching up to Gatlin in the last ten meters. That's the thing with Bolt, he often doesn't have the best start, but he makes up for that with unbeatable acceleration. Technically he doesn't accelerate....the others slow down more then he does. Bolt holds his top speed (40 meter mark) longer then his competitors. I've seem some 10 meter split times to the contrary... In a comparison to other top 100m runners, he goes to top speed about the same time as everyone else (the 6th 10m segment for this analyis, maybe earlier for the one you cite), but since his top speed is faster than everyone else, I suppose he must accelerate faster to get there (right?), and then he holds top speed for one 10m segment longer than everyone else. So he is faster and faster for longer. This is an old article, but FWIW - Usain Bolt 100m 10 meter Splits and Speed Endurance (2008). And there is this. I have no idea what the hell this is all about - On the performance of Usain Bolt in the 100 m sprint (2013). The guy is a marvel. |
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Post by volleyfan24 on Aug 15, 2016 13:57:22 GMT -5
Have you?? Most people won't ever experience that level of success in their lifetimes. There are a lot of athletes that are the best in the world at their respective sports that aren't arrogant. Their is something to be said of being gracious in success and in defeat. An athlete is nothing without their competitors they are the best too that's what makes their success so impressive is they are beating others who are at the top as well. There are plenty of athletes who can say they are the best in their respective sports at one time or another and are not cocky. I gave one example in Phelps but Durant the year he won MVP, even Simone Biles, Walsh-Jennings have all been called the best ever in their respective sports. I prefer my athletes to compete with class and grace than a bad attitude. If you are the best in the world or at the time and the gap is that big, let your success speak for itself. It usually does. What "bad attitude"? It looks like he's out there having fun. (Oh, and the answer is yes. And it's very annoying when people who haven't done what you do try to tell you that you are doing it the wrong way.) There is a fine line between celebrating your win and excessively celebrating. I am with you I think athletes should celebrate their successes. To reach the pinnacle of any sport is quite the accomplishment. But apparently you have only started watching Bolt look back on his wins. He turned me off when he started celebrating before he even won the race in Beijing. That is arrogance that is cocky. Athletes are polarizing figures no one will ever agree I wonder if a poll done prefers athletes to be excessive in their wins or for them to be humble. |
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