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Post by mnsports255 on Nov 24, 2016 17:41:05 GMT -5
Come to Minnesota! We'd love to host you guys.  Minnesota is the last team anyone wants to face. BTW, Congrats on your last 3 victories. I predicted Minny wouldn't win out, but they won three straight five setters includig against the #1. If Minnesota beats Wiscy, and Nebraska loses to BLUE, Minny could be the top seed!! Much appreciated! I for one would like to see Nebraska get the #1 seed, just for Minnesota’s sake. Good luck to your young USC squad as they try to surprise in a sub-regional next weekend. Maybe Lanier, Ford, and Withers have some magic saved up their sleeves. They've shown flashes in small spurts this season, maybe they'll start to put it together some in the tournament. |
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Post by gobruins on Nov 24, 2016 18:38:54 GMT -5
Come to Minnesota! We'd love to host you guys. Minnesota is the last team anyone wants to face. BTW, Congrats on your last 3 victories. I predicted Minny wouldn't win out, but they won three straight five setters includig against the #1. If Minnesota beats Wiscy, and Nebraska loses to BLUE, Minny could be the top seed!! Despite what happened last night, I would much prefer to play Minnesota, rather than Nebraska. Can you please move UCLA out of the 8/9 seed? |
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Post by southie on Nov 24, 2016 19:11:38 GMT -5
As long as Nebraska wins their last match, they will be the #1 overall seed. Non-conference wins over Texas and Florida set them apart from Minnesota, IMO. Had Minnesota beaten Stanford, then I'd say it would be a toss-up between the two.
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Post by mnsports255 on Nov 24, 2016 20:15:40 GMT -5
Minnesota is the last team anyone wants to face. BTW, Congrats on your last 3 victories. I predicted Minny wouldn't win out, but they won three straight five setters includig against the #1. If Minnesota beats Wiscy, and Nebraska loses to BLUE, Minny could be the top seed!! Despite what happened last night, I would much prefer to play Minnesota, rather than Nebraska. Can you please move UCLA out of the 8/9 seed? Fair. Looking at it from a neutral prospective, I'd like my team's chances better having to play Minnesota vs Nebraska. That being said, I believe both are far and away the best teams in the country, and there's not a ton of room for debate there IMHO. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2016 22:21:28 GMT -5
Updated as of last night. I took Kentucky's loss to Tennessee to knock them out of the seeds. K-State was next on down (Creighton's H2H losses to Kstate and Kentucky and no T25 wins just held them down)...and it really f'ed up the bracket and made it very hard to balance. I hope the NCAA doesn't reward Kentucky undeservedly once again just because it makes things simpler. In other news, UW is showing at 5 in the new RPI, with Kansas at 9. I ended up giving UW the 4 seed. Good work! You and Trojan both (although I like your pairings better.) Agree - both do good work. Stating the obvious: I would say that 12 teams are now locks to be a seed: Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Washington, Stanford, Texas, Kansas, Florida, Missouri, BYU, & North Carolina. I would suggest that 3 more are very likely to be a seed: UCLA, San Diego, and Michigan State. That leaves the #16 seed??? Kansas State, Creighton, Kentucky, Western Kentucky - a complete wild card? Does anyone know if Creighton or Western Kentucky put in a bid to host? Is it possible that Western Kentucky gets the 16th seed, is not able to host - and the sub-regional goes somewhere else (Penn State). Or they could use Kentucky as the host and WKU the seed. I am also intrigued by which RPI will have the most influence on the seed order (The one on Friday morning, Saturday morning or the final RPI on Saturday night)? It seems to me that once they have decided on the 16 seeds and the 32 at large teams - they can easily change the seed order very late in the process. Also, I wonder if there will be some 'internal' rule to make sure that at least X teams in a region have put a bid to host (say there are 2 or 3 seeds that cannot host a region - would the committee potentially move one of them a spot to make sure they are not in the same regional?). Or, will the committee release the teams that submitted a bid to host a regional after the bracket is announced - or will it be a potential mystery if a top 4 team losses in the 2nd round? |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2016 22:43:13 GMT -5
Updated.
Oh, and I finally got around to posting Bubble Team Resume's. This includes the nitty gritty information that the committee will use.
i should have an extremely close estimate to the updated RPI the committee gets after all matches end, but for now all RPI numbers being used are from the Monday edition.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2016 22:53:18 GMT -5
Good work! You and Trojan both (although I like your pairings better.) Agree - both do good work. Stating the obvious: I would say that 12 teams are now locks to be a seed: Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Washington, Stanford, Texas, Kansas, Florida, Missouri, BYU, & North Carolina. I would suggest that 3 more are very likely to be a seed: UCLA, San Diego, and Michigan State. That leaves the #16 seed??? Kansas State, Creighton, Kentucky, Western Kentucky - a complete wild card? Does anyone know if Creighton or Western Kentucky put in a bid to host? Is it possible that Western Kentucky gets the 16th seed, is not able to host - and the sub-regional goes somewhere else (Penn State). Or they could use Kentucky as the host and WKU the seed. I am also intrigued by which RPI will have the most influence on the seed order (The one on Friday morning, Saturday morning or the final RPI on Saturday night)? It seems to me that once they have decided on the 16 seeds and the 32 at large teams - they can easily change the seed order very late in the process. Also, I wonder if there will be some 'internal' rule to make sure that at least X teams in a region have put a bid to host (say there are 2 or 3 seeds that cannot host a region - would the committee potentially move one of them a spot to make sure they are not in the same regional?). Or, will the committee release the teams that submitted a bid to host a regional after the bracket is announced - or will it be a potential mystery if a top 4 team losses in the 2nd round? I haven't got as good of a feel on the committee for seeding, but I feel like I'm getting better. In 2012 & 2013 I missed two seeds, 2014 all 16 were seeded, but not in order Last year I actually wanted to put Creighton in as a host at the #16 spot, but I opted for Louisville instead and was wrong. I'm really starting to question San Diego down the stretch. They won early in the season. They only have 3 top 50 wins, albeit all three are pretty damn good wins. |
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Post by firedup on Nov 25, 2016 0:52:33 GMT -5
As always, brilliant work. I agree with almost everything, I am not confident the SEC gets 5. Their historically poor NCAA showing and the parity in the middle of that conference may prevent it. I could see that 5th spot going north to BIG, which I'd say is 50/50 right now that Iowa will steal that 10th bid. It is a CRAZY season. I have Iowa in right now, so the 10th bid would go to Illinois who has some RPI ground to make up Trojansc, I love your work but must admit to being confounded by your placement of Florida as the 13th seed in the tournament. What gives? An opening season loss to Nebraska on a neutral court, a home loss to Kentucky and a road loss to Missouri in 5. That constitutes slippage to 13 or the #5 rpi team? Couple that with your positioning Michigan in front of them at 12 makes even less sense. If you'd base it on like-opponents alone the Gators trashing of Sparty at East Lansing far outweighs the Wolverines sweep last night at home against Green and White. Curious for the explanation of this. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 25, 2016 1:25:45 GMT -5
I have Iowa in right now, so the 10th bid would go to Illinois who has some RPI ground to make up Trojansc, I love your work but must admit to being confounded by your placement of Florida as the 13th seed in the tournament. What gives? An opening season loss to Nebraska on a neutral court, a home loss to Kentucky and a road loss to Missouri in 5. That constitutes slippage to 13 or the #5 rpi team? Couple that with your positioning Michigan in front of them at 12 makes even less sense. If you'd base it on like-opponents alone the Gators trashing of Sparty at East Lansing far outweighs the Wolverines sweep last night at home against Green and White. Curious for the explanation of this. Keep in mind, as of right now, Florida is #10 in the RPI. Missouri is #11. These RPI numbers include results through today, this is not based on the Monday RPI. That #5 RPI for Florida was a little misleading. Florida's nitty gritty and lack of quality wins are what is concerning. Top 4, Stanford, UNC, UW, Michigan State, Michigan, Kansas State, BYU, and Creighton all have more Top 50 wins than Florida does. bluepenquin can back me up a little bit here. I think he noticed as well that the gap between the #5-#13 was extremely close for such a wide range. extra.ncaa.org/solutions/rpi/Stats%20Library/16%20VB%20Nitty%20Gritty%20thru%20Nov%2020.pdfLook at the #'s. Florida doesn't stand out in the top 25 record category, and they trail almost everybody in the Record v. 26-50 category. That's not a good look, especially when you aren't even your conference champion! |
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Post by bucky415 on Nov 25, 2016 1:34:47 GMT -5
Despite what happened last night, I would much prefer to play Minnesota, rather than Nebraska. Can you please move UCLA out of the 8/9 seed? Fair. Looking at it from a neutral prospective, I'd like my team's chances better having to play Minnesota vs Nebraska. That being said, I believe both are far and away the best teams in the country, and there's not a ton of room for debate there IMHO. Unless Wisconsin wins on Saturday. |
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Post by mnsports255 on Nov 25, 2016 4:37:37 GMT -5
Fair. Looking at it from a neutral prospective, I'd like my team's chances better having to play Minnesota vs Nebraska. That being said, I believe both are far and away the best teams in the country, and there's not a ton of room for debate there IMHO. Unless Wisconsin wins on Saturday. Pipe dream chief. Keep wishin.  |
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Post by aardvark on Nov 25, 2016 5:18:03 GMT -5
Updated. Oh, and I finally got around to posting Bubble Team Resume's. This includes the nitty gritty information that the committee will use. i should have an extremely close estimate to the updated RPI the committee gets after all matches end, but for now all RPI numbers being used are from the Monday edition. Personally, I think you are giving Cincinnati too much credit. Their resume looks rather flimsy. |
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Post by southie on Nov 25, 2016 7:38:09 GMT -5
What exactly is the "nitty gritty"? Maybe I missed it, but I have yet to see a link to it, and I don't recall it being mentioned in the past as a tool used by the NCAA committee.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 25, 2016 10:30:46 GMT -5
Updated. Oh, and I finally got around to posting Bubble Team Resume's. This includes the nitty gritty information that the committee will use. i should have an extremely close estimate to the updated RPI the committee gets after all matches end, but for now all RPI numbers being used are from the Monday edition. Personally, I think you are giving Cincinnati too much credit. Their resume looks rather flimsy. Their resume is really similar to Colorado St., but they have a better RPI. If Temple finishes Top 50 (and theyre there now) - Cinci is definitely in |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 25, 2016 10:32:24 GMT -5
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