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Post by n00b on Nov 24, 2016 13:41:25 GMT -5
You should know as well as anybody how consistent the committee is. You've predicted all but 2 at larges in the past four seasons, right? They did their homework and seeded based on the criteria given to them by the NCAA. That means the Coaches Poll ranking means absolutely nothing. USC was 8th in the RPI and Hawaii was 7th. Hawaii always has and always will get dinged a little bit for not playing any road matches against quality opponents. I'm not saying the RPI is good, but the committee members are told to use it as a primary criteria, so they do. Meh, plenty of examples where the committee ISN'T overly consistent when it comes to placement of seeds. Perhaps with at large bids, sure. You're definitely right. But this shouldn't be used as an example of "OH MY GOSH, WHAT WAS THE COMMITTEE THINKING?!?" There are other, better examples.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2016 15:50:19 GMT -5
Updated as of last night. I took Kentucky's loss to Tennessee to knock them out of the seeds. K-State was next on down (Creighton's H2H losses to Kstate and Kentucky and no T25 wins just held them down)...and it really f'ed up the bracket and made it very hard to balance. I hope the NCAA doesn't reward Kentucky undeservedly once again just because it makes things simpler. In other news, UW is showing at 5 in the new RPI, with Kansas at 9. I ended up giving UW the 4 seed.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 24, 2016 16:01:44 GMT -5
Updated as of last night. I took Kentucky's loss to Tennessee to knock them out of the seeds. K-State was next on down (Creighton's H2H losses to Kstate and Kentucky and no T25 wins just held them down)...and it really f'ed up the bracket and made it very hard to balance. I hope the NCAA doesn't reward Kentucky undeservedly once again just because it makes things simpler. In other news, UW is showing at 5 in the new RPI, with Kansas at 9. I ended up giving UW the 4 seed. Good work! You and Trojan both (although I like your pairings better.)
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 24, 2016 16:03:02 GMT -5
Updated as of last night. I took Kentucky's loss to Tennessee to knock them out of the seeds. K-State was next on down (Creighton's H2H losses to Kstate and Kentucky and no T25 wins just held them down)...and it really f'ed up the bracket and made it very hard to balance. I hope the NCAA doesn't reward Kentucky undeservedly once again just because it makes things simpler. In other news, UW is showing at 5 in the new RPI, with Kansas at 9. I ended up giving UW the 4 seed. Huskies have to beat WSU, though, or else any dream of that top-4 is gone.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Nov 24, 2016 16:07:06 GMT -5
But let's look on the bright side. If PSU, Hawaii, and Stanford all show up in Palo Alto regional sub-regional, then we supplant Seattle as the center of the volleyball universe. If it will keep Hawaii out of Seattle, I'm all for it. I've already seen Hawaii three times in Seattle - I really would like to see someone not wearing green. I'll be surprised if PSU is not seeded - the committee tends to give Rose a good deal of deference. It also helps solve a lot of their travel issues, with sopping up all the weak AQs that tend to congregate within driving distance.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2016 16:07:56 GMT -5
Updated as of last night. I took Kentucky's loss to Tennessee to knock them out of the seeds. K-State was next on down (Creighton's H2H losses to Kstate and Kentucky and no T25 wins just held them down)...and it really f'ed up the bracket and made it very hard to balance. I hope the NCAA doesn't reward Kentucky undeservedly once again just because it makes things simpler. In other news, UW is showing at 5 in the new RPI, with Kansas at 9. I ended up giving UW the 4 seed. Good work! You and Trojan both (although I like your pairings better.) He's not minimizing flights right now, so his bracket might look a little cleaner overall.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2016 16:09:01 GMT -5
Updated as of last night. I took Kentucky's loss to Tennessee to knock them out of the seeds. K-State was next on down (Creighton's H2H losses to Kstate and Kentucky and no T25 wins just held them down)...and it really f'ed up the bracket and made it very hard to balance. I hope the NCAA doesn't reward Kentucky undeservedly once again just because it makes things simpler. In other news, UW is showing at 5 in the new RPI, with Kansas at 9. I ended up giving UW the 4 seed. Huskies have to beat WSU, though, or else any dream of that top-4 is gone. Agreed. But I'm doing this as if the season ended now.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2016 16:11:11 GMT -5
Good work! You and Trojan both (although I like your pairings better.) He's not minimizing flights right now, so his bracket might look a little cleaner overall. Really? I thought both our flights looked pretty balanced, especially since I have UK hosting. I can't have more than 1 or 2 more teams flying than you do -- do I?
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2016 16:12:24 GMT -5
He's not minimizing flights right now, so his bracket might look a little cleaner overall. Really? I thought both our flights looked pretty balanced, especially since I have UK hosting. I can't have more than 1 or 2 more teams flying than you do -- do I? You're flying Princeton into Kentucky, while sending Ohio St. and Purdue west (with no B1G team there). I have more flights overall because I'm not having UK hosting.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2016 16:18:02 GMT -5
Side Note: When I've been wrong - an ACC team has been involved. Will Georgia Tech be the one I miss this year?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 24, 2016 16:18:17 GMT -5
But let's look on the bright side. If PSU, Hawaii, and Stanford all show up in Palo Alto regional sub-regional, then we supplant Seattle as the center of the volleyball universe. If it will keep Hawaii out of Seattle, I'm all for it. I've already seen Hawaii three times in Seattle - I really would like to see someone not wearing green. I'll be surprised if PSU is not seeded - the committee tends to give Rose a good deal of deference. It also helps solve a lot of their travel issues, with sopping up all the weak AQs that tend to congregate within driving distance. But you guys haven't had the pleasure of watching Annie Mitchem hit yet. 😄 But I am with you... it would be nice to see Hawaii in a Midwest subregional instead of Seattle LA., or Northern California.
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Post by mnsports255 on Nov 24, 2016 17:17:51 GMT -5
If it will keep Hawaii out of Seattle, I'm all for it. I've already seen Hawaii three times in Seattle - I really would like to see someone not wearing green. I'll be surprised if PSU is not seeded - the committee tends to give Rose a good deal of deference. It also helps solve a lot of their travel issues, with sopping up all the weak AQs that tend to congregate within driving distance. But you guys haven't had the pleasure of watching Annie Mitchem hit yet. 😄 But I am with you... it would be nice to see Hawaii in a Midwest subregional instead of Seattle LA., or Northern California. Come to Minnesota! We'd love to host you guys.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 24, 2016 17:33:49 GMT -5
But you guys haven't had the pleasure of watching Annie Mitchem hit yet. 😄 But I am with you... it would be nice to see Hawaii in a Midwest subregional instead of Seattle LA., or Northern California. Come to Minnesota! We'd love to host you guys. Minnesota is the last team anyone wants to face. BTW, Congrats on your last 3 victories. I predicted Minny wouldn't win out, but they won three straight five setters includig against the #1. If Minnesota beats Wiscy, and Nebraska loses to BLUE, Minny could be the top seed!!
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 24, 2016 17:36:48 GMT -5
But you guys haven't had the pleasure of watching Annie Mitchem hit yet. 😄 But I am with you... it would be nice to see Hawaii in a Midwest subregional instead of Seattle LA., or Northern California. Come to Minnesota! We'd love to host you guys. You looking for an early exit this year? 😀 (R)uffda would be outraged.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 24, 2016 17:40:29 GMT -5
Come to Minnesota! We'd love to host you guys. P-) You looking for an early exit this year? 😀 (R)uffda would be outraged. Classic BiK post.
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