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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 19, 2021 20:33:52 GMT -5
So would I be playing it through the Steam app, or would I just download the game via Steam and do a local install? I tried RRT III but just didn’t like it. Don’t think I really gave it a chance. Come to think of it, I may have bought the disc but had to download it from Steam. Then had to sign in in order to play...something made it into a real turn-off. This was back when I had dial-in internet access. Steam has DRM that may require you to be online, at least periodically. RRT II is also on Gog for $5.99, and it's completely DRM-free. Honestly, if you have any concerns at all about DRM or needing an online connection, I would just pay the extra dollar and get it through Gog. But it's up to you. Edit: the reviews on the Gog version are lower than Steam, so maybe it's harder to get it to run? I'm not really sure, but maybe Steam is better. After looking at the negative Steam reviews, it seems some people also can't get it to run there, so it likely just depends on your computer. Gog also has a better refund policy than Steam, as they let you refund it up to 30 days after purchase, even if you've played it, and they also have tech support. Thanks for the options! Will look into this as well! Back in 2003 all the dial-up network was a pita...never had to get DRM clearance when I installed games directly from the discs. Imagine nowadays with internet access being a whole lot more convenient accessing Steam for DRM may not be an issue. But I would probably sign up to Steam or Gog for old games, nostalgic reasons if anything.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 19, 2021 20:41:42 GMT -5
Steam has DRM that may require you to be online, at least periodically. RRT II is also on Gog for $5.99, and it's completely DRM-free. Honestly, if you have any concerns at all about DRM or needing an online connection, I would just pay the extra dollar and get it through Gog. But it's up to you. Edit: the reviews on the Gog version are lower than Steam, so maybe it's harder to get it to run? I'm not really sure, but maybe Steam is better. After looking at the negative Steam reviews, it seems some people also can't get it to run there, so it likely just depends on your computer. Gog also has a better refund policy than Steam, as they let you refund it up to 30 days after purchase, even if you've played it, and they also have tech support. Thanks for the options! Will look into this as well! Back in 2003 all the dial-up network was a pita...never had to get DRM clearance when I installed games directly from the discs. Imagine nowadays with internet access being a whole lot more convenient accessing Steam for DRM may not be an issue. But I would probably sign up to Steam or Gog for old games, nostalgic reasons if anything. The talk about DRM reminds me of the super old-school DRM that games on disc used to have. Like you would have to find the third word in the fourth paragraph on the 31st page of the manual or something like that. Some of them even had these like decoder wheel type things, and you had to solve a puzzle.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 19, 2021 21:33:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the options! Will look into this as well! Back in 2003 all the dial-up network was a pita...never had to get DRM clearance when I installed games directly from the discs. Imagine nowadays with internet access being a whole lot more convenient accessing Steam for DRM may not be an issue. But I would probably sign up to Steam or Gog for old games, nostalgic reasons if anything. The talk about DRM reminds me of the super old-school DRM that games on disc used to have. Like you would have to find the third word in the fourth paragraph on the 31st page of the manual or something like that. Some of them even had these like decoder wheel type things, and you had to solve a puzzle. HA! Talk about blast from the past. I think I came across this on a couple of games, not many. Could be the reason why I don't throw things away nowadays...and wifey hates me for holding on to manuals.
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Post by mln59 on Jan 20, 2021 12:02:34 GMT -5
still waiting on hollow knight. my apartment complex has suffered another sting of break-ins at the mailboxes. we have to go to the post office to collect mail and i'm concerned my game has gotten lost in the wash
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 20, 2021 22:50:24 GMT -5
still waiting on hollow knight. my apartment complex has suffered another sting of break-ins at the mailboxes. we have to go to the post office to collect mail and i'm concerned my game has gotten lost in the wash Whenever I get onto Facebook and watch some of the videos, I'm shocked at how many people were filmed stealing packages from other people's house. Guess I shouldn't be surprised because a couple of years ago I had an entire Amazon shipment stolen from my aunt's porch. Amazon said it was delivered, I asked my aunt and she said nothing was on the porch when they got home. Suppose to be a decent neighborhood too. Also made me wonder if the contracted Amazon delivery person tipped off someone about packages sitting on the wide open porch.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 21, 2021 0:53:20 GMT -5
Thanks for the options! Will look into this as well! Back in 2003 all the dial-up network was a pita...never had to get DRM clearance when I installed games directly from the discs. Imagine nowadays with internet access being a whole lot more convenient accessing Steam for DRM may not be an issue. But I would probably sign up to Steam or Gog for old games, nostalgic reasons if anything. The talk about DRM reminds me of the super old-school DRM that games on disc used to have. Like you would have to find the third word in the fourth paragraph on the 31st page of the manual or something like that. Some of them even had these like decoder wheel type things, and you had to solve a puzzle. That's *really* old school. The first version of Pirates! (1987) had a deal where you had to give your birthday (or something like that). Then you had to fight a pirate captain. If you read the manual it would tell you what to say to get an easy fight. Otherwise if you picked wrong, you would get an unwinnable fight. This was the copy protection -- but it was easily defeated with a Xerox machine. Later games were sold with a sticker on the box that had a long alpha-numeric code. You would get asked for the code when you first installed it. These days most games "phone home" with a digital key, or else they don't have any DRM. There are people (even some game publishers) that think games should not burden the the legit customers in order to try to crack down on unlicensed copies.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 21, 2021 10:58:50 GMT -5
The talk about DRM reminds me of the super old-school DRM that games on disc used to have. Like you would have to find the third word in the fourth paragraph on the 31st page of the manual or something like that. Some of them even had these like decoder wheel type things, and you had to solve a puzzle. That's *really* old school. The first version of Pirates! (1987) had a deal where you had to give your birthday (or something like that). Then you had to fight a pirate captain. If you read the manual it would tell you what to say to get an easy fight. Otherwise if you picked wrong, you would get an unwinnable fight. This was the copy protection -- but it was easily defeated with a Xerox machine. Later games were sold with a sticker on the box that had a long alpha-numeric code. You would get asked for the code when you first installed it.These days most games "phone home" with a digital key, or else they don't have any DRM. There are people (even some game publishers) that think games should not burden the the legit customers in order to try to crack down on unlicensed copies. Yeah, I remember that. I want to say that era was like in the first decade of the 2000s. The really old ones I was talking about were in the 1990s. And some of those games may have come on a series of floppy discs as opposed to a CD (I remember installing King's Quest 6 with like nine floppy discs). As for modern DRM, there's also Denuvo, which seems fairly resistant to crackers, but it also has some negative side effects like worse performance and longer load times. A lot of publishers will remove Denuvo from their game after a while (maybe six months or so). I guess they mostly want to protect their initial launch window. And yeah, CD Projekt Red has long been anti-DRM. They actually own Gog, which is the reason why it sells the games on its platform DRM-free.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 21, 2021 14:12:30 GMT -5
LOL classic nonsense.
So I've spent almost all of HZD getting good at stealth and sniping things from a distance. Then the last two missions were "locked in a room with a boss and no hiding spots" and this other one where I was supposed to rescue these three NPCs who a) rushed right into battle, thus making stealth impossible, and b) followed me wherever I moved to, thus drawing all the machines to me and making sniping impossible.
At least HZD doesn't seem to let you fail missions because the NPC you are supposed to be escorting is stupid enough to run into the middle of a battle and get killed. It seems to treat mission-critical NPCs like Oblivion did -- they can get knocked out with a cooldown period, but not killed. (Skyrim had a different mechanic. "Protected" NPCs could get knocked to zero health and then kneel down. At that point they would be no longer deliberately targeted, but they could still be killed by area of effect attacks or accidental attacks. Some selected NPCs, however, had a further level of protection that actually did make them unkillable.)
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Post by mln59 on Jan 21, 2021 14:25:17 GMT -5
sounds like you were in a cauldron
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 21, 2021 14:30:00 GMT -5
sounds like you were in a cauldron No, though that too. This was the mission to the "grave-horde" where you get locked into a room with a "Deathdealer". (In a cutscene, no less -- as soon as you open this door, the cutscene forces you to walk inside and let it lock behind you, then stand there like a doofus while you just watch the enemies activate this thing without trying to stop them.) It turns out, though, that one girl with a bow who just runs back and forth and carries some herbs to heal with is enough to kill this unstoppable war robot. Kind of makes me wonder why the "old world" had so much trouble with them.
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Post by mln59 on Jan 22, 2021 17:06:04 GMT -5
it's been 10 days since gamefly shipped hollow knight. i am become increasingly concerned that this game t'will never show up
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 22, 2021 17:50:11 GMT -5
I have been experiencing an increasing number of missions in HZD which force me into being unable to snipe from a distance. The common thread is that instead of just telling me to "get this thing done" and leaving me to do it, I've been saddled with NPC partners who know nothing of stealth or letting machines cool down and stop looking for us.
I do kind of like the characterization of the tribes, though.
The Nora are focused on living lightly on the land, and they think the old world was evil. They are do not tolerate anyone violating their taboos. The Carja have a strict caste system and are somewhat decadent but also strong and advanced. They don't seem to care much either way about the old world. The Oseram are focused on the present, interested in building new things. They see the old sites as just ruins built by people, and look at them as a source of metal and artifacts. The Banuk are strongly egalitarian but like the Nora they socially enforce their traditions. They revere the old sites as spiritual holy places.
There are also other tribes, but the game only mentions them a few times. The Carja are pretty clearly based on the Aztecs, including their propensity to attack their neighbors and enslave or sacrifice them.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 25, 2021 22:34:37 GMT -5
Made my first Steam purchase ever...bought the Railroad Tycoon package for $15...RRT2, RRT3 and Sid Meier's Railroads! Was surprised to see Civ5 still in my Steam library after so many years of not touching my account.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jan 25, 2021 22:55:13 GMT -5
Made my first Steam purchase ever...bought the Railroad Tycoon package for $15...RRT2, RRT3 and Sid Meier's Railroads! Was surprised to see Civ5 still in my Steam library after so many years of not touching my account. Well, hopefully the games will run for you. I saw that there were issues listed for RRT3 being compatible with modern computers.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Jan 26, 2021 0:01:21 GMT -5
Made my first Steam purchase ever...bought the Railroad Tycoon package for $15...RRT2, RRT3 and Sid Meier's Railroads! Was surprised to see Civ5 still in my Steam library after so many years of not touching my account. Well, hopefully the games will run for you. I saw that there were issues listed for RRT3 being compatible with modern computers. Did fire up RRT2 and was all giddy when I saw the intro screen running. Ran a new scenario, the Heartland...my favorite, and played for a little while. Have to remember all the keyboard controls.
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