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Post by nakedcrayon on Aug 28, 2017 20:07:55 GMT -5
Texas A&M will be playing #1 3 4 5 and 6 teams in the coming weeks to give a gauge against a common opponent along with Missouri and Lipscomb
Looking forward to seeing some of these better teams play in person and how the Aggies improve over the team
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:15:38 GMT -5
The big difference in the VB world is two matches in one day, something that does not happen ever again -- in the major conferences. major conference teams just aren't as tough as the midmajors. They can't handle multiple matches in a day like the others can. Mid-majors don't do it either. I am talking about minor D1 and D3.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:18:15 GMT -5
And just to be clear, my point is that how teams do in two-matches-a-day situations doesn't really tell you how they will do during the regular or post-season.
There's been a LOT of misleading data over the years. Assumptions made that don't turn out to be correct.
Not saying it's worthless data. Just that it's problematic.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 28, 2017 20:19:31 GMT -5
major conference teams just aren't as tough as the midmajors. They can't handle multiple matches in a day like the others can. Mid-majors don't do it either. I am talking about minor D1 and D3. Huh. The Badgers play 3 matches in 27 hours this weekend. Pretty sure they are in a major conference.
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Post by jayj79 on Aug 28, 2017 20:22:07 GMT -5
I think it might happen in some of the conference tournaments, but I could be wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:23:13 GMT -5
If you read my original post -- and all my subsequent posts -- you'll realize you are misunderstanding this whole point.
I'll state it again: two-matches-in-one-day, which only happens in pre-season tournaments for almost all ranked teams, don't tell you a lot about how well a team will do in the regular and post-season.
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Post by flibbertigibbet on Aug 28, 2017 20:25:05 GMT -5
If you read my original post -- and all my subsequent posts -- you'll realize you are misunderstanding this whole point. I'll state it again: two-matches-in-one-day, which only happens in pre-season tournaments for almost all ranked teams, don't tell you a lot about how well a team will do in the regular and post-season. Use-more-hyphens-next-time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:25:47 GMT -5
Wow. I've heard it all now.
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Aug 28, 2017 20:28:52 GMT -5
Food for thought. Stanford was ranked 7-17 all last season, except for the last poll. This early stuff means nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 20:32:01 GMT -5
Well, in theory, it means something. It means these are the teams coaches think are good, ranked in order. That's not nothing.
Now, whether or not that's what we actually get is another question.
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Post by bolleyvol on Aug 28, 2017 20:37:17 GMT -5
I'm surprised they even have polls this early, let alone that people worry about them. I know there's no money for it, but volleyball (and other college sports) need a real preseason. At this point teams have been together for two weeks, many (including some major players) have new coaches, virtually everyone has new players in key positions, everyone has injuries- most of them minor training camp injuries that wouldn't keep them out in November, everyone's still figuring out a system, some teams haven't even played a meaningful match yet, while others have been off in Gainesville beating each other to a pulp. Not sure how this differs from fb and bb and their polls and the sisters of the poor they play early, interrupting the start of televised volleyball late in the season. I'm not sure it does, or that it needs to; I did mention "other college sports". This, however, is a volleyball site so I'm talking about volleyball. I don't give a damn about football or college baseball, so have no idea how their seasons are structured, but I don't suppose it's much different- basketball is certainly similar, though they may have a little more time before games start, and they do have some exhibition games- I don't usually pay much attention until they start playing.
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Post by Wiswell on Aug 28, 2017 21:00:42 GMT -5
Agree. There shouldn't be any polls in any sports until their conference schedule starts. 2-3 weeks in.
Polls' main purposes are: 1. Fans hashing the rankings on social media. ;-) 2. Schools using them as recruiting tool. 3. Tv using it to hype games/make money.
(Not in that order)
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 28, 2017 21:12:22 GMT -5
3 rules of social media:
1. Upload new content frequently. 2. See #1 3. See #2
This means:
On youtube, upload new videos frequently. On facebook, provide a status update or reply in other users' status updates. On Instagram, upload new photos frequently. On twitter, tweet frequently or retweet other users' tweets.
If you don't, you risk losing followers and hence, potential $$$ through lower exposure. You get the idea. So, these Top 25 polls is an excuse for AVCA to stay relevant.
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Post by ocmyhome on Aug 29, 2017 1:16:24 GMT -5
Ohio State loses to #10 BYU in 4 and moves up 6 spots to 20th..? Pays to lose to BYU I guess...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2017 1:32:45 GMT -5
If you read my original post -- and all my subsequent posts -- you'll realize you are misunderstanding this whole point. I'll state it again: two-matches-in-one-day, which only happens in pre-season tournaments for almost all ranked teams, don't tell you a lot about how well a team will do in the regular and post-season. Use-more-hyphens-next-time In other news: "Study shows grammar police are huge jerks." www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a43468/stop-pointing-out-typos/
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