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Post by jayj79 on Sept 18, 2017 18:28:07 GMT -5
Nebraska hasn't lost at home. They lost in Omaha. They did destroy UCLA 3-0 twice at home though. Who has UCLA beat ? San Diego ? It was a neutral site at best against UNI the same time as a home football game. There were tons of empty seats. UNO's ticket selling website made it very difficult to purchase tickets for this tournament. It showed the tournament sold out when it wasn't. I tried purchasing tickets when they were available and the credit card option didn't work. I finally reached out to a UNO coach connection for passes who informed me, there are tons of unsold tickets. It was hardly a home match for Nebraska. not a home match, but not really a truly neutral site match either. A ton more people cheering for UNL than UNI. Not that it really matters. It was technically a neutral site match, just like when the Huskers play in the NCAA tournament in Omaha. |
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Post by eov4nu on Sept 18, 2017 18:35:36 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree only in that tickets were very hard to purchase. There are so many people who love to see Husker volleyball and would've bought those seats had UNO's website been more user friendly or actually shown that there were tickets available for the match rather than saying that they were sold out. I expected more of a "Century Link" feeling this last weekend and it just wasn't there because there were too many empty seats.
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 18, 2017 18:39:14 GMT -5
you disagree that there weren't more people cheering for the Huskers than for the Panthers?
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Post by eov4nu on Sept 18, 2017 18:40:32 GMT -5
you disagree that there weren't more people cheering for the Huskers than for the Panthers? No, in that it was a post season Omaha feel. |
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Post by beba on Sept 18, 2017 19:38:36 GMT -5
Way southwest of Los Angeles. But assuming you mean with respect to the poll, they are where they should be...out. Bown is likely trolling. But, with very close 5 set losses to UCLA and BYU, that easily could have gone either way, he has a point. But...Hawaii has played every single match so far this season at home. That is a big advantage, as other teams have to deal with travel, airports, time change, hotels, etc. while Hawaii gets to stay home, sleep in their own beds, practice on their own schedule, etc. A 7:00 p.m. match at Hawaii means the visiting team is still playing at midnight or 1 a.m. their time, in front of a big, screaming Hawaii crowd. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 18, 2017 19:42:40 GMT -5
It was a neutral site at best against UNI the same time as a home football game. There were tons of empty seats. UNO's ticket selling website made it very difficult to purchase tickets for this tournament. It showed the tournament sold out when it wasn't. I tried purchasing tickets when they were available and the credit card option didn't work. I finally reached out to a UNO coach connection for passes who informed me, there are tons of unsold tickets. It was hardly a home match for Nebraska. not a home match, but not really a truly neutral site match either. A ton more people cheering for UNL than UNI. Not that it really matters. It was technically a neutral site match, just like when the Huskers play in the NCAA tournament in Omaha. It's so lame to try to claim that Omaha NE is a "neutral site" for a match between Nebraska and Northern Iowa. That's like saying that Seattle University would be a neutral site if Nebraska played Washington. |
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Post by dd2000 on Sept 18, 2017 20:07:20 GMT -5
Bown is likely trolling. But, with very close 5 set losses to UCLA and BYU, that easily could have gone either way, he has a point. But...Hawaii has played every single match so far this season at home. That is a big advantage, as other teams have to deal with travel, airports, time change, hotels, etc. while Hawaii gets to stay home, sleep in their own beds, practice on their own schedule, etc. A 7:00 p.m. match at Hawaii means the visiting team is still playing at midnight or 1 a.m. their time, in front of a big, screaming Hawaii crowd. No argument there. But I bet Hawaii beats some 10 to 25 ranked teams on a neutral site. They have improved every weekend out after multiple line up changes those first few weekends. That said, I"m not advocating for them being ranked at this point. They didn't do what they needed to early on. I am looking forward to the rest of the season and post-season though. |
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Post by vbmom10 on Sept 18, 2017 20:11:15 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree only in that tickets were very hard to purchase. There are so many people who love to see Husker volleyball and would've bought those seats had UNO's website been more user friendly or actually shown that there were tickets available for the match rather than saying that they were sold out. I expected more of a "Century Link" feeling this last weekend and it just wasn't there because there were too many empty seats. I bought my tickets on Stubhub for less than face value. Part of the issue I think was the ticket was for a day pass. I went to the UNI game at noon and the UNO match late that night. UNO match had record turnout for them, still not full but a good crowd. The UNI game had many Husker fans around the tv's watching the football debacle. I'm guessing the UNI-Kstate match had light attendance. But I know there are Husker fans that would have shown up if there was the opportunity to buy a single game admission. |
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Post by nuclearbdgr on Sept 18, 2017 20:49:31 GMT -5
Bown is likely trolling. But, with very close 5 set losses to UCLA and BYU, that easily could have gone either way, he has a point. But...Hawaii has played every single match so far this season at home. That is a big advantage, as other teams have to deal with travel, airports, time change, hotels, etc. while Hawaii gets to stay home, sleep in their own beds, practice on their own schedule, etc. A 7:00 p.m. match at Hawaii means the visiting team is still playing at midnight or 1 a.m. their time, in front of a big, screaming Hawaii crowd. It can be even worse - in 2007, Oregon St played Colorado State in a great match that went five sets ( and I think a couple of the sets went extra time). Michigan-Hawaii first serve wasn't until almost 9pm, and the match went five, with Michigan winning 16-18 in the fifth at ~4am Michigan time. |
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Post by tomclen on Sept 18, 2017 20:50:15 GMT -5
Bown is likely trolling. But, with very close 5 set losses to UCLA and BYU, that easily could have gone either way, he has a point. But...Hawaii has played every single match so far this season at home. That is a big advantage, as other teams have to deal with travel, airports, time change, hotels, etc. while Hawaii gets to stay home, sleep in their own beds, practice on their own schedule, etc. A 7:00 p.m. match at Hawaii means the visiting team is still playing at midnight or 1 a.m. their time, in front of a big, screaming Hawaii crowd. Let's put Hawaii travel in perspective. During pre-conference, for many teams a trip to Hawaii is an event. The team stays multiple days. Families and fans go. It's a bonding experience and for some players, probably a once-in-a-lifetime experience. But during conference play, the tables are turned. From a travel perspective, Hawaii has the toughest, most grueling schedule in the country. Every road trip is a MAJOR trip. It's not an event, or bonding experience. And it's flying to one far away city, flying to a second city and then returning home. It's grueling. And don't forget, come tournament time Hawaii almost always gets screwed by the committee. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Sept 18, 2017 20:54:31 GMT -5
But...Hawaii has played every single match so far this season at home. That is a big advantage, as other teams have to deal with travel, airports, time change, hotels, etc. while Hawaii gets to stay home, sleep in their own beds, practice on their own schedule, etc. A 7:00 p.m. match at Hawaii means the visiting team is still playing at midnight or 1 a.m. their time, in front of a big, screaming Hawaii crowd. Let's put Hawaii travel in perspective. During pre-conference, for many teams a trip to Hawaii is an event. The team stays multiple days. Families and fans go. It's a bonding experience and for some players, probably a once-in-a-lifetime experience. But during conference play, the tables are turned. From a travel perspective, Hawaii has the toughest, most grueling schedule in the country. Every road trip is a MAJOR trip. It's not an event, or bonding experience. And it's flying to one far away city, flying to a second city and then returning home. It's grueling. And don't forget, come tournament time Hawaii almost always gets screwed by the committee. This is so overblown. Hawaii's travel schedule is not daunting now that they are in the Big West. They leave the islands 4 times this year (3 last) and 2 of them are straight shots to LAX. They have 1 LAX flight with a bus ride or very short connection and then one slightly tricky trip to Davis. Zero trips with weather-related issues. Compare this to Wazzu's itinerary this year... or any team in the Big Sky. |
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Post by gogophers on Sept 18, 2017 22:04:01 GMT -5
But, really, is there any reason to believe that the coaches at McNeese State, or Harvard, or UMass Lowell, however knowledgable they may be about the sport, have the time, interest, and information needed to form an educated opinion as to which top teams, none of which their own team is ever likely to encounter, should be ranked ahead or behind other top teams? How astoundingly condescending of you.... So, enlighten me. I don't question that coaches are experts; or that if one were to watch two teams in person, his opinion as to which team is better would likely be insightful. But what information do you suppose the average voter in the poll has on the ranked teams and the wanna-bes, all or almost all of which he hasn't seen in person or, most likely, even on tv yet this season. How does a coach from a small conference, with all he has to do to prepare his own team, scout his own opponents, and address recruiting, find the time during the season to gather the information needed to decide whether team x should be ranked 7th or 14th? Just what deliberations do you think the average small conference coach go through before ranking the teams? |
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Post by jcvball22 on Sept 18, 2017 22:12:08 GMT -5
How astoundingly condescending of you.... So, enlighten me. I don't question that coaches are experts; or that if one were to watch two teams in person, his opinion as to which team is better would likely be insightful. But what information do you suppose the average voter in the poll has on the ranked teams and the wanna-bes, all or almost all of which he hasn't seen in person or, most likely, even on tv yet this season. How does a coach from a small conference, with all he has to do to prepare his own team, scout his own opponents, and address recruiting, find the time during the season to gather the information needed to decide whether team x should be ranked 7th or 14th? Just what deliberations do you think the average small conference coach go through before ranking the teams? I am guessing the same amount of information as the average armchair quarterbacks on this forum, and you guys all seem to think you know best. |
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 18, 2017 22:12:51 GMT -5
How astoundingly condescending of you.... So, enlighten me. I don't question that coaches are experts; or that if one were to watch two teams in person, his opinion as to which team is better would likely be insightful. But what information do you suppose the average voter in the poll has on the ranked teams and the wanna-bes, all or almost all of which he hasn't seen in person or, most likely, even on tv yet this season. How does a coach from a small conference, with all he has to do to prepare his own team, scout his own opponents, and address recruiting, find the time during the season to gather the information needed to decide whether team x should be ranked 7th or 14th? Just what deliberations do you think the average small conference coach go through before ranking the teams? as if large conference coaches have any more knowledge about all of the other teams. |
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Sept 18, 2017 22:17:16 GMT -5
Honestly I thought it would be much worse, this is a decent week in terms of accurateness. UCLA is a bit high for having one notable win, but nothing absurdly bad. "Accurateness?" |
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