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Post by lionsfan on Sept 18, 2017 13:38:49 GMT -5
www.avca.org/polls/di-women/9-18-2017.htmlPenn State loses a #1 vote...to Stanford?! Northern Iowa, Wichita State and Colorado join as Michigan State, Ohio State and UNC exit Oregon, BYU and Kentucky join the Top 10 spots vacated by Kansas, Nebraska and Creighton
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Post by boilermaker5 on Sept 18, 2017 13:41:17 GMT -5
Rank School (First-Place Votes) Total Points Adjusted 2017 Record Previous Week 1 Minnesota (40) 1567 11-0 1 2 Penn State (13) 1535 10-0 2 3 Florida (10) 1489 7-0 3 4 Stanford (1) 1370 7-2 4 5 Wisconsin 1355 9-0 5 6 Texas 1303 7-2 6 7 Washington 1230 10-1 7 8 Oregon 1040 7-1 11 9 BYU 976 11-1 14 10 Kentucky 953 9-2 12 11 UCLA 916 7-2 13 12 Kansas 864 11-2 9 13 Purdue 837 10-1 15 14 Nebraska 818 7-3 10 15 Creighton 799 7-4 8 16 Utah 631 9-2 16 17 San Diego 586 7-3 17 18 Iowa State 477 9-1 19 19 Florida State 412 6-1 20 20 Michigan 388 10-2 21 21 Southern California 230 8-3 18 22 Northern Iowa 212 10-4 NR 23 Colorado State 157 10-2 22 24 Wichita State 116 8-3 NR 25 Colorado 106 10-1 NR
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Post by sisyphus on Sept 18, 2017 13:42:37 GMT -5
Penn State loses a #1 vote...to Stanford?! I thought their wins against *cough* UOP and SMC *cough* were pretty convincing. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 18, 2017 13:44:10 GMT -5
Michelle Collier (Georgia Tech) moved from Minnesota to Stanford for her #1
Deitre Collins-Parker (San Diego State) changes from Minnesota to Penn State
Ashleigh Fitzgerald (McNeese State) and Michael Jordan (NM State) from Minnesota to Florida
Linda Sagnelli (Central Connecticut State) and Dave Zelenock (Tennessee Tech), who have had Florida #1 for two weeks, changed to Minnesota
Jennifer Weiss (Harvard), who has had Penn State #1 for two weeks, changes to Minnesota
Ray Gooden (Northern Illinois), who has had Penn State #1 for two weeks, didn't vote this time
Marci Jenkins (Radford), who has had Minnesota #1 for two weeks, didn't vote this time
Wayne Kreklow (Missouri), who has had Florida #1 for two weeks, didn't vote this time
Resa Provanzano (UMass Lowell), who had Minnesota #1 last week, didn't vote this time
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Sept 18, 2017 13:51:59 GMT -5
Penn State loses a #1 vote...to Stanford?! I thought their wins against *cough* UOP and SMC *cough* were pretty convincing. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) Sorry about your cold.
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 18, 2017 14:01:36 GMT -5
Just silly to have UCLA ahead of Nebraska
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 18, 2017 14:04:36 GMT -5
what a flpping joke
Cal Poly was #26 last week, all they've done is sweep every flippn opponent in their wins, aside from beating Wichita 3-2.
they brutalized their competition last week (away from home again)
so far, played every single game away from home - no other ranked team has done that
lose only to top 10 teams Oregon & Washington (@ Oregon & @ Washington at that )
and what happens - then they get dropped down from 26 to 29 in favor of Colorado, Colorado State, Western Kentucky, and Wichita ( a team that Cal Poly beat on a neutral court while Wichita gets rewarded for beating good teams AT HOME), Michigan State (a team that hasn't beat anyone and lost to Ga Tech) & Notre Dame - teams that all leap-frogged Cal Poly
Notre Dame beat Ohio State (a team no longer ranked or having any votes, but so what, Notre Dame also LOST to Ohio State), so of course they leap-frog Cal Poly
just a total joke - they should have been 23 or 24th, and ahead of Wichita for sure
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Post by josie on Sept 18, 2017 14:31:09 GMT -5
I feel like Penn State should be 1
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Post by southie on Sept 18, 2017 14:33:10 GMT -5
Just silly to have UCLA ahead of Nebraska There's always a lot of silly logic when it comes to these rankings. Some teams in the top 10 haven't even played (let alone beaten) a team ranked in the Top 10. So, very hard to know if they are deserving of their ranking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 14:58:32 GMT -5
what a flpping joke Cal Poly was #26 last week, all they've done is sweep every flippn opponent in their wins, aside from beating Wichita 3-2. they brutalized their competition last week (away from home again) so far, played every single game away from home - no other ranked team has done that lose only to top 10 teams Oregon & Washington (@ Oregon & @ Washington at that ) and what happens - then they get dropped down from 26 to 29 in favor of Colorado, Colorado State, Western Kentucky, and Wichita ( a team that Cal Poly beat on a neutral court while Wichita gets rewarded for beating good teams AT HOME), Michigan State (a team that hasn't beat anyone and lost to Ga Tech) & Notre Dame - teams that all leap-frogged Cal Poly Notre Dame beat Ohio State (a team no longer ranked or having any votes, but so what, Notre Dame also LOST to Ohio State), so of course they leap-frog Cal Poly just a total joke - they should have been 23 or 24th, and ahead of Wichita for sure I agree with you cc but are you really surprised? This is the way it is year in and year out. The system they use to rank teams is a joke. Kinda like Nielsen ratings for tv. I would say just let their play do their talking but with the way at-larges are chosen unless they win the Big West they could still be left out. How many West Coast coaches get to vote? SDSU and who else? But hey, they put UCLA ahead of a Nebraska team that beat them 6-0 in sets so maybe I am being unreasonable..
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Post by Gilmoy on Sept 18, 2017 15:04:37 GMT -5
Bleh ... I need to automate the two-table manipulation. And write a gofer script that knows how to surf to schools' wvb schedule pages and deduce W/L records prior to a date cut-off. whom | 09/11 | then | w | l | did | dpts | d# | now | w | l | 09/18 | Minnesota | #1 | 1568 | 8 | 0 | 3-0 | -1 | =0 | 1567 | 11 | 0 | #1 | Penn State | #2 | 1517 | 7 | 0 | 3-0 | +18 | =0 | 1535 | 10 | 0 | #2 | Florida | #3 | 1507 | 4 | 0 | 3-0 | -18 | =0 | 1489 | 7 | 0 | #3 | Stanford | #4 | 1362 | 5 | 2 | 2-0 | +8 | =0 | 1370 | 7 | 2 | #4 | Wisconsin | #5 | 1343 | 7 | 0 | 2-0 | +12 | =0 | 1355 | 9 | 0 | #5 | Texas | #6 | 1319 | 6 | 2 | 1-0 | -16 | =0 | 1303 | 7 | 2 | #6 | Washington | #7 | 1169 | 8 | 1 | 2-0 | +61 | =0 | 1230 | 10 | 1 | #7 | Oregon | #11 | 899 | 7 | 1 | 0-0 | +141 | +3 | 1040 | 7 | 1 | #8 | BYU | #14 | 778 | 8 | 1 | 3-0 | +198 | +5 | 976 | 11 | 1 | #9 | Kentucky | #12 | 827 | 7 | 2 | 2-0 | +126 | +2 | 953 | 9 | 2 | #10 | UCLA | #13 | 821 | 5 | 2 | 2-0 | +95 | +2 | 916 | 7 | 2 | #11 | Kansas | #9 | 1082 | 9 | 1 | 2-1 | -218 | -3 | 864 | 11 | 2 | #12 | Purdue | #15 | 721 | 8 | 1 | 2-0 | +116 | +2 | 837 | 10 | 1 | #13 | Nebraska | #10 | 1067 | 5 | 2 | 2-1 | -249 | -4 | 818 | 7 | 3 | #14 | Creighton | #8 | 1093 | 7 | 2 | 0-2 | -294 | -7 | 799 | 7 | 4 | #15 | Utah | #16 | 658 | 8 | 1 | 1-1 | -27 | =0 | 631 | 9 | 2 | #16 | San Diego | #17 | 527 | 6 | 3 | 1-0 | +59 | =0 | 586 | 7 | 3 | #17 | Iowa State | #19 | 395 | 7 | 0 | 2-1 | +82 | +1 | 477 | 9 | 1 | #18 | Florida State | #20 | 371 | 5 | 1 | 1-0 | +41 | +1 | 412 | 6 | 1 | #19 | Michigan | #21 | 328 | 7 | 2 | 3-0 | +60 | +1 | 388 | 10 | 2 | #20 | Southern California | #18 | 518 | 7 | 2 | 1-1 | -288 | -3 | 230 | 8 | 3 | #21 | Northern Iowa | &35 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 2-1 | +208 | +13 | 212 | 10 | 4 | #22 | Colorado State | #22 | 316 | 8 | 1 | 2-1 | -159 | -1 | 157 | 10 | 2 | #23 | Wichita State | &26 | 37 | 7 | 2 | 1-1 | +79 | +2 | 116 | 8 | 3 | #24 | Colorado | &32 | 13 | 7 | 1 | 3-0 | +93 | +7 | 106 | 10 | 1 | #25 | Western Kentucky | &30 | 19 | 9 | 2 | 4-0 | +58 | +4 | 77 | 13 | 2 | &26 | Notre Dame | &34 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 3-0 | +66 | +7 | 73 | 10 | 1 | &27 | Michigan State | #23 | 288 | 5 | 1 | 2-1 | -218 | -5 | 70 | 7 | 2 | &28 | Cal Poly | &26 | 37 | 7 | 2 | 3-0 | +24 | -3 | 61 | 10 | 2 | &29 | Baylor | &27 | 31 | 6 | 3 | 4-0 | +5 | -3 | 36 | 10 | 3 | &30 | Washington State | &29 | 25 | 8 | 1 | 3-0 | +3 | -2 | 28 | 11 | 1 | &31 | Illinois | &28 | 25 | 6 | 2 | 3-0 | -3 | -4 | 22 | 9 | 2 | &32 | Miami (FL) | &33 | 10 | 6 | 0 | 0-0 | +8 | =0 | 18 | 6 | 0 | &33 | Maryland | >35 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 2-1 | +8 | +2 | 8 | 11 | 1 | &34 | Missouri State | &31 | 16 | 6 | 3 | 2-2 | -9 | -4 | 7 | 8 | 5 | &35 | North Carolina | #24 | 46 | 2 | 4 | 1-1 | -46 | -12 | 0 | 3 | 5 | >35 | Ohio State | #25 | 41 | 5 | 3 | 2-1 | -41 | -11 | 0 | 7 | 4 | >35 |
Oregon had a rare bye week. Miami (FL) had two consecutive weekends cancelled ![:'(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cry.png) Illinois went 3-0 and "dropped" 4 spots. But that could be just (new) voters overlooking them, not really an outright defection of votes. Conference play begins this week. Carnage ensues, and continues.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 18, 2017 15:11:19 GMT -5
When I see colors in a chart, I think of Borderlands because of the way they use color to designate rarity of weapons. It's hard-wired into my brain.
From common to most rare: White-Green-Blue-Purple-Orange-Pearlescent (i.e., Cyan)
I get very excited when I see purple and orange. (I've never ever seen Pearlescent, the rarest of them all.)
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Post by gnu2vball on Sept 18, 2017 15:16:41 GMT -5
Michelle Collier (Georgia Tech) moved from Minnesota to Stanford for her #1 Deitre Collins-Parker (San Diego State) changes from Minnesota to Penn State Ashleigh Fitzgerald (McNeese State) and Michael Jordan (NM State) from Minnesota to Florida Linda Sagnelli (Central Connecticut State) and Dave Zelenock (Tennessee Tech), who have had Florida #1 for two weeks, changed to Minnesota Jennifer Weiss (Harvard), who has had Penn State #1 for two weeks, changes to Minnesota Ray Gooden (Northern Illinois), who has had Penn State #1 for two weeks, didn't vote this time Marci Jenkins (Radford), who has had Minnesota #1 for two weeks, didn't vote this time Wayne Kreklow (Missouri), who has had Florida #1 for two weeks, didn't vote this time Resa Provanzano (UMass Lowell), who had Minnesota #1 last week, didn't vote this time Do you work as a skip tracer?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 15:24:31 GMT -5
www.avca.org/polls/di-women/9-18-2017.htmlPenn State loses a #1 vote...to Stanford?! Northern Iowa, Wichita State and Colorado join as Michigan State, Ohio State and UNC exit Oregon, BYU and Kentucky join the Top 10 spots vacated by Kansas, Nebraska and Creighton I don't understand how anyone could put a vote for Stanford. Put it anywhere else but there and u might have argument but with psu 10-0 and has already beaten Stanford twice how anyone can put that vote to Stanford is beyond me. Stanford is good team no doubt but how can anyone put a vote to them when penn state is above them undefeated and beaten them twice. I just want to understand the logic there that's all
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Post by gogophers on Sept 18, 2017 15:28:50 GMT -5
The posters who complained about Cal Poly and Illinois' rankings should find some comfort in Pablo ranking them at 12 and 9, respectively. Big10 has 6 out of the top 11 per Pablo. But it's early.
The coaches' poll logic seems to be: look at how every one finished last year and wait to see if anyone doesn't obviously worse or better than last year's year-end performance would indicate. Fortunately or unfortunately, the volleyball world at the top is relatively static, one year to the next, making it easy to guess who's first tier, second tier, etc.
But, really, is there any reason to believe that the coaches at McNeese State, or Harvard, or UMass Lowell, however knowledgable they may be about the sport, have the time, interest, and information needed to form an educated opinion as to which top teams, none of which their own team is ever likely to encounter, should be ranked ahead or behind other top teams?
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