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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 13:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by trying2learn on Dec 11, 2017 14:04:38 GMT -5
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Post by trying2learn on Dec 11, 2017 14:37:32 GMT -5
Although her performance wasnt enough to guarantee a win for Bauru's biggest must win game of Superliga so far...why did she start on the bench? Was Bonatto reluctant to have her start the game? She is in clear game shape, as she has been training with the team since July
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Post by trying2learn on Dec 11, 2017 14:42:42 GMT -5
This thread got huge from when I first created it... I wont have time to read it now, but will certainly read everything and reply to it when I am done
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 14:49:37 GMT -5
Although her performance wasnt enough to guarantee a win for Bauru's biggest must win game of Superliga so far...why did she start on the bench? Was Bonatto reluctant to have her start the game? She is in clear game shape, as she has been training with the team since July From what I heard she was recovering from some injury in the past few months.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 21:04:59 GMT -5
Tiffany started in her 2nd game and her team Barueri won in 4. She ended as the best score of the game with 25 points (52%), her teammate Paula Pequeno ( 2008 OG MVP) 9 points (27%), on the other team their OPP Bruna Honorio 11 points (24%)
In another game, Nicolle Fawcett team (Praia Clube) won in 3, she scored 7 points (28%).
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Post by wonderer on Dec 20, 2017 10:00:33 GMT -5
Could she play on NT? has the IOC implemented any regulations on allowing trans athletes to compete? I am a bit uninformed on this subject and maybe the answers have already been posted?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2017 12:01:02 GMT -5
Could she play on NT? has the IOC implemented any regulations on allowing trans athletes to compete? I am a bit uninformed on this subject and maybe the answers have already been posted? I really don`t know if she can play for the NT, but Ze Roberto ( Brazilian head coach), said he will be watching her very closely this season and he could invite her to join the team, so I`m guessing she can, but again I really don`t know.
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Post by technique on Dec 20, 2017 18:06:36 GMT -5
This is actually bad for Trans people and their movement as it will cause backlash. Everytime she is in a match where they win the question of unfair advantage will always come up. Even a layman can see the extra power she has in her kills.
UC Santa Cruz in Division 3 had a transgender girl play for them last year, name was Chloe Anderson. There was a documentary about her. She didn't dominate or anything as the team had a losing record.
Most Division 1 NCAA schools won't go near recruiting a transgender as it brings up issues of title nine and other unwanted publicity.
But a pro league is a business, shouldn't they get to do whatever they want let how their sponsors attendance etc. dictate how far they go with it?
They could put a rule in restricting height of a transgender athlete or the amount they can have on one team. Or how about restricting the amount of points a transgender athlete can play.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 20, 2017 19:12:35 GMT -5
This is actually bad for Trans people and their movement as it will cause backlash. Everytime she is in a match where they win the question of unfair advantage will always come up. Even a layman can see the extra power she has in her kills. UC Santa Cruz in Division 3 had a transgender girl play for them last year, name was Chloe Anderson. There was a documentary about her. She didn't dominate or anything as the team had a losing record. Most Division 1 NCAA schools won't go near recruiting a transgender as it brings up issues of title nine and other unwanted publicity. But a pro league is a business, shouldn't they get to do whatever they want let how their sponsors attendance etc. dictate how far they go with it? They could put a rule in restricting height of a transgender athlete or the amount they can have on one team. Or how about restricting the amount of points a transgender athlete can play. I completely disagree. If you let transgender people play, then you let them play. If you don't, you don't. But it's asinine to say "transgender people are allowed to play, but only if they aren't any good at it".
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Post by technique on Dec 20, 2017 22:28:03 GMT -5
This is actually bad for Trans people and their movement as it will cause backlash. Everytime she is in a match where they win the question of unfair advantage will always come up. Even a layman can see the extra power she has in her kills. UC Santa Cruz in Division 3 had a transgender girl play for them last year, name was Chloe Anderson. There was a documentary about her. She didn't dominate or anything as the team had a losing record. Most Division 1 NCAA schools won't go near recruiting a transgender as it brings up issues of title nine and other unwanted publicity. But a pro league is a business, shouldn't they get to do whatever they want let how their sponsors attendance etc. dictate how far they go with it? They could put a rule in restricting height of a transgender athlete or the amount they can have on one team. Or how about restricting the amount of points a transgender athlete can play. I completely disagree. If you let transgender people play, then you let them play. If you don't, you don't. But it's asinine to say "transgender people are allowed to play, but only if they aren't any good at it". Here is an article where New York State gave a boy a strength and conditioning test to determine if he was too strong to play on the girls volleyball team. www.nydailynews.com/new-york/teen-boy-fights-play-high-school-all-girl-volleyball-team-article-1.1168645A similar test can be given to trans athletes for the collegiate level etc. But as I was saying for a pro league, its a business and they can do as they wish based on what the free market dictates. If having a trans player will boost attendance, revenue winning etc.. Then they can allow it. If sponsors pull out, then they may have to not allow the trans athlete. Or if opposing teams start to refuse to play them, then they will have to make a decision. They can alter how and if a transgender athlete can play based on how it works for their business. On another note a Kathoey Ladyboy volleyball team in Thailand apparently had won the men's national championship in the country in 1996. They had players good enough to help the Thailand men's national team qualify for the Olympics. But because the government felt shame, they were not allowed to play on the National team.
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Post by ned3vball on Dec 21, 2017 6:31:22 GMT -5
NCAA Transgender Handbook 2011Well the NCAA didn't write a 38 page document 6+ years ago (that is very supportive on the topic) because they don't think it is going to happen. It is only a question of when, not if, this is going to occur at a high D1 level.
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Post by mikegarrison on Dec 21, 2017 7:07:27 GMT -5
NCAA Transgender Handbook 2011Well the NCAA didn't write a 38 page document 6+ years ago (that is very supportive on the topic) because they don't think it is going to happen. It is only a question of when, not if, this going to occur at a high D1 level. So their basic rule is that after a full year of hormone treatment, a M->F athlete can compete on a women's team. A F->M athlete can compete on a men's team right away. And a team that has both female and male athletes is a "mixed" team and can compete for the men's championship but not the women's championship.
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 21, 2017 8:34:27 GMT -5
Most Division 1 NCAA schools won't go near recruiting a transgender as it brings up issues of title nine and other unwanted publicity. Please provide evidence for this assertion. The NCAA has zero interest in doing this. Or, you know, they can make a decision based on treating people like human beings. Pro leagues are still subject to whatever employment and equal opportunity laws exist in their country.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 20:19:49 GMT -5
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