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Post by goingtotask on Jan 1, 2018 8:29:23 GMT -5
I like Jerritt. The recruits like JE, enough to sign LOI and show up. The players like JE, enough to take a secondary position and not transfer. The admin likes JE, enough to keep him employed. Other Longhorn fans, well they can always vote with their wallets or email if they don't like the results he has brought. Non-Longhorn fans...well as I tell my kids, "Suck it up". Which has equated to exactly how many National Championships for JE? |
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Post by goingtotask on Jan 1, 2018 8:39:50 GMT -5
JE is an excellent recruiter... but a very poor coach. Bad game plans and not so good player development. Especially in the back court. If he was in a different conference it would even be exposed to a higher extent. The Big12 allows much of the flaws to go unoticed. Texas does hold the record for most semifinal losses. With texas' extreme hitter talents they win games easily in big12. But often get exposed on the big stage. Its the texas back court defense.. subpar. Coach Elliott handed John Cook his lunch in last year's national semi-final dismantling. Guess your Husker head coach got thoroughly schooled and outcoached by someone you don't consider a good coach; says a lot about your own coach, who Elliott has beaten so many times this last decade. Which has equated to exactly how many National Championships for JE. JE started in Austin in spring 2001 John Cook started in Lincoln the previous years. 4 National Championships for NEBRASKA to 1 National Championship for TEXAS And Texas has the #1 ranked recruiting class nearly every year. But Congrats on that record for holding the record for most semifinal losses. At Nebraska, we recognize success in National Titles, apparently a Final Four loss is something to hang your hat on in Texas |
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Post by southie on Jan 1, 2018 10:05:02 GMT -5
Coach Elliott handed John Cook his lunch in last year's national semi-final dismantling. Guess your Husker head coach got thoroughly schooled and outcoached by someone you don't consider a good coach; says a lot about your own coach, who Elliott has beaten so many times this last decade. Which has equated to exactly how many National Championships for JE. JE started in Austin in spring 2001 John Cook started in Lincoln the previous years. 4 National Championships for NEBRASKA to 1 National Championship for TEXAS And Texas has the #1 ranked recruiting class nearly every year. But Congrats on that record for holding the record for most semifinal losses. At Nebraska, we recognize success in National Titles, apparently a Final Four loss is something to hang your hat on in Texas Don't get all high and mighty on here. My post was prior to NU winning the title this year. Your program went without a single Final Four appearance after 2008 up until 2015. It is what is. Last 3 years, Cook has definitely turned things around, and NU is at the top. Regardless, a program like Nebraska should never go 7 years without a FF appearance, so something was definitely wrong in either coaching or recruiting, and Cook was accountable for that. Not sure how anyone can argue with that logic. |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Jan 1, 2018 10:34:37 GMT -5
We understand how everyone feels about Elliott and what he has done at Texas. Now let’s get back to actually talking about Texas 2018.
We will have 3 brand new L/DS players this year. Does this mean we have the potential to have a better passing team than last year? 2015 and 2016 were looking up in regards to SR but last year was a pretty big letdown in that department.
Does White make as big of strides in SR next year as she did in defense this year? If she can, I think Texas could seriously challenge for a title. If none of these players can SR better than last year, I don’t see our offense being any different than it was this year.
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Post by goingtotask on Jan 1, 2018 14:28:35 GMT -5
Which has equated to exactly how many National Championships for JE. JE started in Austin in spring 2001 John Cook started in Lincoln the previous years. 4 National Championships for NEBRASKA to 1 National Championship for TEXAS And Texas has the #1 ranked recruiting class nearly every year. But Congrats on that record for holding the record for most semifinal losses. At Nebraska, we recognize success in National Titles, apparently a Final Four loss is something to hang your hat on in Texas Don't get all high and mighty on here. My post was prior to NU winning the title this year. Your program went without a single Final Four appearance after 2008 up until 2015. It is what is. Last 3 years, Cook has definitely turned things around, and NU is at the top. Regardless, a program like Nebraska should never go 7 years without a FF appearance, so something was definitely wrong in either coaching or recruiting, and Cook was accountable for that. Not sure how anyone can argue with that logic. Once again, Texas hanging their hat on how many Final Fours they made. Great Job. If that's how you measure success, that's your choice. However, a program should never go 18 years between winning national titles so something is definitely wrong in either coaching or recruiting and Jerrit Elliott needs to be held accountable for that. He has #1 ranked recruiting classes damn near every year and zilch to show for it. Not sure how anyone can argue with that logic. Texas is proud that they consistently made the final four. Nebraska prefers to get excited winning the championship trophy. Your comments prove that point. |
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Post by southie on Jan 1, 2018 15:04:28 GMT -5
Don't get all high and mighty on here. My post was prior to NU winning the title this year. Your program went without a single Final Four appearance after 2008 up until 2015. It is what is. Last 3 years, Cook has definitely turned things around, and NU is at the top. Regardless, a program like Nebraska should never go 7 years without a FF appearance, so something was definitely wrong in either coaching or recruiting, and Cook was accountable for that. Not sure how anyone can argue with that logic. Once again, Texas hanging their hat on how many Final Fours they made. Great Job. If that's how you measure success, that's your choice. However, a program should never go 18 years between winning national titles so something is definitely wrong in either coaching or recruiting and Jerrit Elliott needs to be held accountable for that. He has #1 ranked recruiting classes damn near every year and zilch to show for it. Not sure how anyone can argue with that logic. Texas is proud that they consistently made the final four. Nebraska prefers to get excited winning the championship trophy. Your comments prove that point. I for sure agree that Texas shouldn't go 24 years between winning national titles in volleyball; thanks for the compliment. Mick Haley won his last one in 1988, and could only muster one more Final Four in 1995 before he left the program in 1996; that was unacceptable to me. Jim Moore couldn't get it done between 1997 and 2000. So, yes, something was definitely wrong under Haley and Moore in that timespan. Jerritt had to work extremely hard to resurrect Texas volleyball from where Moore left it. And, he has done a tremendous job. It took a while, but he has built a very strong Texas volleyball program. I can't speak for everyone, but I am very proud when our team makes it to the Final Four eight out of the last ten years; that puts them in a position to compete for a national title. As a fan, that consistency is all I can ask for. John Cook inherited a Nebraska program from Terry Pettit that was at the top; his job was to maintain it at that level, and he did for a few years until 2009 to 2015 (when Jerritt Elliot and Texas starting eating his lunch). Nebraska was then exiting in the Regional Final or earlier and was a complete non-factor in that national championship race. I'm sure those seasons didn't mean anything to you, because in your book it's either a national title or a failure of a season; you sound like the definition of a "bandwagon fan". |
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Post by ciscokeed on Jan 1, 2018 15:13:25 GMT -5
JE never gets enough credit. It is so difficult to be relevant every year. You can’t consistently make final fours unless you are damn good at everything that coaching entails. I
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jan 1, 2018 15:19:26 GMT -5
JE never gets enough credit. It is so difficult to be relevant every year. You can’t consistently make final fours unless you are damn good at everything that coaching entails. I To be fair, every player minus a middle and libero in texas starting lineup was a top ten recruit, with 3 of them on the bench. Texas has had amazing success, and hes a fabulous recruiter, but theh definitely seemed to underachieve at times this year. Now this isnt saying they had a BAD season, just based on the level of talent they have and most decent coaches, could lead a team like that |
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Post by southie on Jan 1, 2018 15:47:09 GMT -5
JE never gets enough credit. It is so difficult to be relevant every year. You can’t consistently make final fours unless you are damn good at everything that coaching entails. I To be fair, every player minus a middle and libero in texas starting lineup was a top ten recruit, with 3 of them on the bench. Texas has had amazing success, and hes a fabulous recruiter, but theh definitely seemed to underachieve at times this year. Now this isnt saying they had a BAD season, just based on the level of talent they have and most decent coaches, could lead a team like that You do realize that there's really only one recruiting service out there for girls' volleyball players, so it's very subjective, right? Their opinion isn't gospel, nor does it guarantee success at the college level for highly-ranked recruits. We as fans on this board often debate those rankings when they first come out based on how those recruits have played prior to college; everyone's opinion is different. As with every program, not all Texas recruits live up to that one recruiting service's ranking. Could it be that player recruiting rankings are sometimes incorrect? |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jan 1, 2018 17:41:25 GMT -5
ok but it still isn’t right to compare her to Ashely Shook cuz Madison Lilly was also on the JNT back in high schoool so she has more experience setting at a higher level than Shook, a while Shook was doing club in the summer, Lilley was doing national play. Really? Please just stop using this comparison. You might get to know your players before making comparisons. Shook was on the JNT training and Lilley traveled with the as Walsh's backup. Not much difference there. Shook's Texas Bio I’ll do what I want, yes Shook made the trip raining team but Lilley actually made the roster. Also Lilley was on the team the year before that so she has more experience then Shook. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jan 1, 2018 17:44:32 GMT -5
JE never gets enough credit. It is so difficult to be relevant every year. You can’t consistently make final fours unless you are damn good at everything that coaching entails. I To be fair, every player minus a middle and libero in texas starting lineup was a top ten recruit, with 3 of them on the bench. Texas has had amazing success, and hes a fabulous recruiter, but theh definitely seemed to underachieve at times this year. Now this isnt saying they had a BAD season, just based on the level of talent they have and most decent coaches, could lead a team like that they need better passers because that will take them to the next level |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jan 1, 2018 17:46:35 GMT -5
To be fair, every player minus a middle and libero in texas starting lineup was a top ten recruit, with 3 of them on the bench. Texas has had amazing success, and hes a fabulous recruiter, but theh definitely seemed to underachieve at times this year. Now this isnt saying they had a BAD season, just based on the level of talent they have and most decent coaches, could lead a team like that You do realize that there's really only one recruiting service out there for girls' volleyball players, so it's very subjective, right? Their opinion isn't gospel, nor does it guarantee success at the college level for highly-ranked recruits. We as fans on this board often debate those rankings when they first come out based on how those recruits have played prior to college; everyone's opinion is different. As with every program, not all Texas recruits live up to that one recruiting service's ranking. Could it be that player recruiting rankings are sometimes incorrect? Orie Agbaji is a good example of this she was top 5 coming out of highschool but has barely played throughout two years at Texas. Another example Paige Hammons she didn’t live up to her expectations either being reduced to a DS role at Florida this season |
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Post by vballtruther2 on Jan 3, 2018 15:24:29 GMT -5
You do realize that there's really only one recruiting service out there for girls' volleyball players, so it's very subjective, right? Their opinion isn't gospel, nor does it guarantee success at the college level for highly-ranked recruits. We as fans on this board often debate those rankings when they first come out based on how those recruits have played prior to college; everyone's opinion is different. As with every program, not all Texas recruits live up to that one recruiting service's ranking. Could it be that player recruiting rankings are sometimes incorrect? Orie Agbaji is a good example of this she was top 5 coming out of highschool but has barely played throughout two years at Texas. Another example Paige Hammons she didn’t live up to her expectations either being reduced to a DS role at Florida this season Orie will probably never play a significant role at UT. It's a shame. |
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Post by southie on Jan 3, 2018 15:39:15 GMT -5
Orie Agbaji is a good example of this she was top 5 coming out of highschool but has barely played throughout two years at Texas. Another example Paige Hammons she didn’t live up to her expectations either being reduced to a DS role at Florida this season Orie will probably never play a significant role at UT. It's a shame. Orie is a quality individual. She actually played quite a bit her 2016 freshman season with Chiaka redshirting, and Yaazie not yet in the middle blocker rotation. For whatever reason, it just hasn't come together for her on the court. No one can argue, though, that she should have been in the starting lineup in 2017. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jan 3, 2018 16:44:53 GMT -5
Orie will probably never play a significant role at UT. It's a shame. Orie is a quality individual. She actually played quite a bit her 2016 freshman season with Chiaka redshirting, and Yaazie not yet in the middle blocker rotation. For whatever reason, it just hasn't come together for her on the court. No one can argue, though, that she should have been in the starting lineup in 2017. I actually thought the few times she played in 2016, she looked pretty good like the first time they faced Kansas they won with her playing middle. What do you think is lacking with her, cuz I think it’s defense |
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