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Post by ironhammer on Dec 23, 2017 3:01:13 GMT -5
One horrific crime in 2014 does “prove” a neighborhood is “crime-ridden.” Tell that to the dead victim's parents. |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 23, 2017 3:06:05 GMT -5
Ahhh. Your favorite game - twisting people’s words to make them angry. It is not the safest area in LA. I don’t need to prove that as I did not claim that. Can you prove it is crime-ridden? You claimed that, so provide the proof. Can your prove you are knowledgeable about the area? You don’t appear willing to do that either. So we do have something to agree on...hehehe. So there, the evidence is plain: www.uscannenbergmedia.com/2016/09/29/usc-vs-ucla-violent-crime-reports/Like I said, I am not in LA or California anymore, so maybe things have changed for the better. Your own source states rape and homicide occurred more often, despite lower population, near UCLA. Further, comparing the two colleges still does not prove your statement about the area around USC being crime-ridden. This source ranks USC as safer than UCLA and much safer than Standord. www.alarms.org/safest-colleges-2017/#tab-con-209 |
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 23, 2017 3:08:00 GMT -5
Your own source states rape and homicide occurred more often, despite lower population, near UCLA. Further, comparing the two colleges still does not prove your statement about the area around USC being crime-ridden. This source ranks USC as safer than UCLA and much safer than Standord. www.alarms.org/safest-colleges-2017/#tab-con-209I never said UCLA enjoys a crime-free neighborhood, did I? I do count quite a few crimes in a month around USC, of course it is crime-ridden area. It all depends on how you define "crime-ridden".  |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 23, 2017 3:08:49 GMT -5
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 23, 2017 3:10:57 GMT -5
I can bet its not irrelevant to the victim's parents. So tell them that, not me. As for UCLA, again, I never made any claims about UCLA having a stellar crime-free neighborhood. And like I said, I do count quite a few crimes per month in that area around USC... So the beef you have with me is what defines "crime-ridden", it seems... |
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Post by tomclen on Dec 23, 2017 3:12:37 GMT -5
Seems to me Volleytalk shouldn't be the place to debate crime on any campus.
But, you know, I don't want to throw cold-water on flame throwers.
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 23, 2017 3:13:11 GMT -5
I can bet its not irrelevant to the victim's parents. So tell them that, not me. As for UCLA, again, I never made any claims about UCLA having a stellar crime-free neighborhood. Grasping at straws again with talk of one victim, which is not evidence of your claim. You tell his parents whatever you want about what his murder proves in your mind. |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 23, 2017 3:15:04 GMT -5
Seems to me Volleytalk shouldn't be the place to debate crime on any campus. But, you know, I don't want to throw cold-water on flame throwers. You know that poster. He always wants to make someone angry by posting opinions presented as facts, twisting words around to change meanings, and ultimately calling them names. It is old hat. |
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 23, 2017 3:21:24 GMT -5
I can bet its not irrelevant to the victim's parents. So tell them that, not me. As for UCLA, again, I never made any claims about UCLA having a stellar crime-free neighborhood. Grasping at straws again with talk of one victim, which is not evidence of your claim. You tell his parents whatever you want about what his murder proves in your mind. Oh there is more than one murder alright: www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-usc-murder-verdict-20141028-story.htmlTicking you off? I was just having a quiet discussion here. I promise I am not trying to piss you off. I hope you are not conflating my "crime-ridden" term with USC itself, whose reputation is stellar. P.S-I see you ignored my point that I never claimed UCLA had a better crime rate...hmmmmm.... Like I said, if you live around USC now and you say its pretty safe, sure...I can accept that.  |
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 23, 2017 3:26:37 GMT -5
Grasping at straws again with talk of one victim, which is not evidence of your claim. You tell his parents whatever you want about what his murder proves in your mind. Oh there is more than one murder alright: www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-usc-murder-verdict-20141028-story.htmlTicking you off? I was just having a quiet discussion here. I promise I am not trying to piss you off. I hope you are not conflating my "crime-ridden" term with USC itself, whose reputation is stellar. P.S-I see you ignored my point that I never claimed UCLA had a better crime rate...hmmmmm.... I am ignoring it because it is disingenuous, as are most of your posts. You opened that can of worms and now shy away when evidence you don’t like is presented. I am further ignoring you as I don’t see any value in your comments or understand their purpose other than to incite frustration. You have admitted in the past that you argue because you like to, and I find that to be a waste of time. I spoke my peace. |
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Post by ironhammer on Dec 23, 2017 3:28:16 GMT -5
Oh there is more than one murder alright: www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-usc-murder-verdict-20141028-story.htmlTicking you off? I was just having a quiet discussion here. I promise I am not trying to piss you off. I hope you are not conflating my "crime-ridden" term with USC itself, whose reputation is stellar. P.S-I see you ignored my point that I never claimed UCLA had a better crime rate...hmmmmm.... I am ignoring it because it is disingenuous, as are most of your posts. You opened that can of worms and now shy away when evidence you don’t like is presented. I am further ignoring you as I don’t see any value in your comments or understand their purpose other than to incite frustration. You have admitted in the past that you argue because you like to, and I find that to be a waste of time. I spoke my peace. Well, it seems to me to be a pretty simple issue...how one defines "crime-ridden". You have a different definition of it than me. That's the crux of the matter. Not saying your definition is a worse or better definition, just different. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Dec 23, 2017 12:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by Fight On! on Dec 23, 2017 13:08:38 GMT -5
Hey now! I had to defend my school! Lol |
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 23, 2017 13:37:49 GMT -5
Seems to me Volleytalk shouldn't be the place to debate crime on any campus. But, you know, I don't want to throw cold-water on flame throwers. I may have inadvertently started this argument by mentioning that USC never appealed to me. To be fair, lots of schools don't appeal to me: schools in the Deep South (e.g., Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Arkansas, Clemson, Tennessee) schools in New Mexico schools in Arizona BYU Idaho Notre Dame schools with names that begin "St. _________" Nebraska the Dakotas Pittsburgh West Virginia Wyoming Maryland Rutgers And, most ironically, the one school that didn't appeal to me as a high schooler is now the school associated with my favorite volleyball program: U. of Hawaii |
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Post by azvb on Dec 23, 2017 16:04:27 GMT -5
Seems to me Volleytalk shouldn't be the place to debate crime on any campus. But, you know, I don't want to throw cold-water on flame throwers. I may have inadvertently started this argument by mentioning that USC never appealed to me. To be fair, lots of schools don't appeal to me: schools in the Deep South (e.g., Alabama, Georgia, Ole Miss, LSU, Arkansas, Clemson, Tennessee) schools in New Mexico schools in Arizona BYU Idaho Notre Dame schools with names that begin "St. _________" Nebraska the Dakotas Pittsburgh West Virginia Wyoming Maryland Rutgers And, most ironically, the one school that didn't appeal to me as a high schooler is now the school associated with my favorite volleyball program: U. of Hawaii I thought you considered ASU when you were getting your Masters? BYU has fully caffeinated Coke products now, btw. |
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