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Post by SportyBucky on May 22, 2018 13:45:22 GMT -5
It sounds like the biggest criticism of MBH thus far has been she can put up monster numbers against weak teams but fades against the big dogs. If that’s accurate then I’m not sure that’s a good long-term solution. Yes, we need to wait until they play against a full China,Brazil,Serbia to see what M.B.H can do... Next week they face China and Brazil....I don`t think China will have their main roster as some players are playing at some military tournament but hopefully at least Zhu will be back. Brazil is missing some players also ....but still that will be a good test. And they face Serbia only in the final round in Argentina....But I don`t know if Serbia will send their main squad for that final week. As of now, Brazil is full strength. It will be a test.
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Post by donut on May 22, 2018 13:51:29 GMT -5
Pure laziness. Someone tells you that what you said might have been offensive to some (given the historical connotations that come with the word "think", IT WAS) and your response is to quit being so politically correct? People like you don't even know what political correctness is. You think being a douchebag and being called out for being a douchebag somehow makes us wrong? Or that seeing implicit racism makes us racebaiters because you didn't come right out and say it? Trump has really poisoned the feeble minds of this country. Sad! It's not lazy at all. His words, his intent. If someone misconstrues his message, that is on them and not him. It's just virtue-signalling b*ll%*$# and trying to imply racism where none was intended. If anyone really thought he was trying to use "chink" in a derogatory manner when it was clearly included in a colloquial phrase everyone has heard and predates the alternative, then they're outright stupid. And yes, political correctness is bunk. Somehow popular society has evolved from caring about ethical or moral correctness, i.e. things that matter, to playing "gotcha" word games. Meh, I'd suggest you brush up on your intent vs. impact knowledge. Intent is pretty much worthless when evaluating an action or discourse. If you accidentally punch someone, you don't not say sorry because you didn't mean to, did you? Just because he didn't "intend" to hurt anyone, doesn't mean others don't feel the consequences of his words. For the record, I don't think he intended to be hurtful either, but 1) I'm also not of asian descent, so that word is not going to be a trigger for me and 2) see above. You have no idea what anyone's background's are on this forum, and that fact that multiple people responded primarily in a defensive manner means you should humble yourself (and the OP) into reconsidering using that phrase (especially in the context of this thread), and adjusting your language. What is so hard about that? And your last paragraph is annoying. The only people who continuously use the term "political correctness" are conservatives who have coined it as negative, and use it as a shield to bolster their stubbornness in changing and evolving into a more caring and thoughtful global society. You obviously don't understand the power of language and microaggressions if you think they're just "'gotcha' word games." BTW my main issue with the original post was that it offered no analysis, content, or value to the thread. But I'm not particularly surprised.
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Post by donut on May 22, 2018 13:58:26 GMT -5
I think BH is going to replace Larson by the time we get to the WC especially if K rob continues to provide the kind of reception and libero play that she's bringing Meh a Bartsch/Hill serve receive combo makes me nervous. Both can break down in terms of passing. Even if K Rob turns out to be a brilliant libero, she can't pass the entire court. Based on her performance so far, Bartsch should really be given an actual shot at Opposite.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 22, 2018 14:09:34 GMT -5
I think BH is going to replace Larson by the time we get to the WC especially if K rob continues to provide the kind of reception and libero play that she's bringing Meh a Bartsch/Hill serve receive combo makes me nervous. Both can break down in terms of passing. Even if K Rob turns out to be a brilliant libero, she can't pass the entire court. Based on her performance so far, Bartsch should really be given an actual shot at Opposite. I wonder if we're migrating in that direction and the change is just going to be incremental. (Get Robo at libero for a bit before switching out the oppos).
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 22, 2018 14:16:37 GMT -5
Haven't watched the match yet, but this is interesting: Lefts - 33/59 (56% kill) Middles - 6/19 (32% kill) Right - 6/20 (30% kill) We struggled with our middle offense all of last season and it seems that may just be the case whenever Foluke isn't playing. There's also a lot of criticism for how much we set our outsides, but if Foluke's not available, it's probably the right choice. Sets were not good to Adams. Like, really bad. But at this point it's a setter-agnostic trend.
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Post by SportyBucky on May 22, 2018 14:25:03 GMT -5
Sets were not good to Adams. Like, really bad. But at this point it's a setter-agnostic trend. Is it? Who else has set this team this year to these numbers? I'd say not setting and mis-setting MH2 in front of her is the trend I'm seeing. Slides are fine to both middles. Setting middles in front has been Lloyd's issue. Crappy RS numbers is setter-agnostic.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 22, 2018 14:26:10 GMT -5
But at this point it's a setter-agnostic trend. Is it? Who else has set this team this year to these numbers? I'd say not setting and mis-setting MH2 in front of her is the trend I'm seeing. Slides are fine to both middles. Setting middles in front has been Lloyd's issue. Crappy RS numbers is setter-agnostic. It's not just this year. Last year was brutal, even in 2016 with Glass we had periods where we couldn't score on the quick.
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Post by SportyBucky on May 22, 2018 14:33:00 GMT -5
Is it? Who else has set this team this year to these numbers? I'd say not setting and mis-setting MH2 in front of her is the trend I'm seeing. Slides are fine to both middles. Setting middles in front has been Lloyd's issue. Crappy RS numbers is setter-agnostic. It's not just this year. Last year was brutal, even in 2016 with Glass we had periods where we couldn't score on the quick. All the more reason to get Inky and Ogbogu playing up asap. They are superior athletically to Gibbemeyer and Dixon and bigger and better jumpers than Adams. Do it. Now.
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Post by alt on May 22, 2018 14:34:40 GMT -5
Bartsch Hackley 21 pts in a 3 setter. Maybe we should have a line up that has BH/Hill/Larson all on the court at the same time. Aka take Murphy off the court It sounds like the biggest criticism of MBH thus far has been she can put up monster numbers against weak teams but fades against the big dogs. If that’s accurate then I’m not sure that’s a good long-term solution. But history is history she's probably one of the best if not the best OH hitter on the team right now. She has been leading player in points everytime she has started. The other players havent shown up either so I think give her the benefit of the doubt.
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Post by alt on May 22, 2018 14:36:34 GMT -5
I think Kelsey Robinson at libero is a bandaid to that spot right now. She may be doing a fine job right now but I don't see that too successful when playing against bigger/better teams.
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Post by n00b on May 22, 2018 14:36:56 GMT -5
It's not just this year. Last year was brutal, even in 2016 with Glass we had periods where we couldn't score on the quick. All the more reason to get Inky and Ogbogu playing up asap. They are superior athletically to Gibbemeyer and Dixon and bigger and better jumpers than Adams. Do it. Now. It only matters if we change our system. If we continue to play OPPs that can only score on the super fast in-system ball, there is very little need to set the middle on a quick in front of the setter. Our offense is designed to be good in system by setting the pins really fast. Adding an effective quick hitting middle, only helps the offense a very small bit in my opinion.
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Post by pepperbrooks on May 22, 2018 14:40:44 GMT -5
It's not lazy at all. His words, his intent. If someone misconstrues his message, that is on them and not him. It's just virtue-signalling b*ll%*$# and trying to imply racism where none was intended. If anyone really thought he was trying to use "chink" in a derogatory manner when it was clearly included in a colloquial phrase everyone has heard and predates the alternative, then they're outright stupid. And yes, political correctness is bunk. Somehow popular society has evolved from caring about ethical or moral correctness, i.e. things that matter, to playing "gotcha" word games. If you accidentally punch someone, you don't not say sorry because you didn't mean to, did you? Just because he didn't "intend" to hurt anyone, doesn't mean others don't feel the consequences of his words. If I'm punching a punching bag, kneading dough, and someone sticks their face in front of my fist, how is that my fault?
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Post by SportyBucky on May 22, 2018 14:53:53 GMT -5
All the more reason to get Inky and Ogbogu playing up asap. They are superior athletically to Gibbemeyer and Dixon and bigger and better jumpers than Adams. Do it. Now. It only matters if we change our system. If we continue to play OPPs that can only score on the super fast in-system ball, there is very little need to set the middle on a quick in front of the setter. Our offense is designed to be good in system by setting the pins really fast. Adding an effective quick hitting middle, only helps the offense a very small bit in my opinion. Not true. Any additional option, be it MH, pipe, etc...helps confuse blockers. Having an effective MH attack could make a mediocre Murphy put up better numbers because she'll be isolated more often.
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Post by donut on May 22, 2018 15:01:05 GMT -5
It only matters if we change our system. If we continue to play OPPs that can only score on the super fast in-system ball, there is very little need to set the middle on a quick in front of the setter. Our offense is designed to be good in system by setting the pins really fast. Adding an effective quick hitting middle, only helps the offense a very small bit in my opinion. Not true. Any additional option, be it MH, pipe, etc...helps confuse blockers. Having an effective MH attack could make a mediocre Murphy put up better numbers because she'll be isolated more often. Plus, if we are a "quick to the pins" team, opponents' pins will start to cheat/lean to the pins for blocking, creating more 1-on-1 opportunities for our middles.
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Post by pdxcardfan on May 22, 2018 15:05:06 GMT -5
Match was on too early for the West Coast. Don't know if this will stay up but it looks to be the complete match (you'll need to open it in YouTube): I am feuding with FloVolleyball and not winning. I elected not to get up in the middle of the night (PDT) but they tell me their replays won't be posted for 24-48 hours, which seems like a long time. As I am impatient, here's a link for a recording that begins at 6-3 in the first set. The announcing is in Japanese. Here's the full match, but this one's rough because whoever recorded it didn't have a great stream. Frequent starts and stops:
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