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Post by baytree on Dec 4, 2018 18:01:14 GMT -5
Yes true, my middle hitter selections are based on that premise. Westerberg is a bad a55 hitter.....looks to be too good to be stationed as a middle. Anyone ever witness her service game? Why wouldn't you want a good hitter to be a middle? Are you assuming bad passing so few opportunities to set the middles? I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't understand the point.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 4, 2018 18:29:56 GMT -5
I am truly hoping Amber Igiede can make the transition from High School to College Volleyball a smooth one. That will allow Robyn to use Westerberg wherever she wants to use her. The key player here is not Westerberg, but Igiede. That is why I am hoping Igiede can make the transition to college volleyball immediately.
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Post by dd2000 on Dec 4, 2018 18:32:57 GMT -5
Yes true, my middle hitter selections are based on that premise. Westerberg is a bad a55 hitter.....looks to be too good to be stationed as a middle. Anyone ever witness her service game? Why wouldn't you want a good hitter to be a middle? Are you assuming bad passing so few opportunities to set the middles? I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't understand the point. A good offensive and blocking middle is hard to beat. They can score offensively and defensively, and block on the left, middle, and right. If she's a great middle, then that's what she should be.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 4, 2018 18:55:37 GMT -5
Why wouldn't you want a good hitter to be a middle? Are you assuming bad passing so few opportunities to set the middles? I'm not disagreeing with you, I don't understand the point. A good offensive and blocking middle is hard to beat. They can score offensively and defensively, and block on the left, middle, and right. If she's a great middle, then that's what she should be. What you say is true. But the question is, where can Westerberg help the Wahine the most. If she has to play Middle, then Robyn will lose her blocking, and offensive, ability at Opposite. Having Igiede at Middle, Robyn will not lose much in respect to blocking, but could lose some offensively. So by having Westerberg play Opposite, to me, it would help the Wahine more. The question for me is, can Westerberg play the back row, so she can be an offensive threat out of the back row.
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Post by goblin on Dec 4, 2018 19:23:32 GMT -5
Precisely Baytree, with the majority of our passers (Granato, Akiu, Maafala) now graduating, and with no incoming, established L on the horizon... our passing will take a big hit. This is based on the likelihood that the incoming Freshmen are not as adept at passing and defense as the Wahines they're replacing. For this reason, I' m seeing a lot of sets to the pins next season as the opportunities to set the middles tapers off. Also at present, Noreen will be the primary and only setter we have next season and as we saw at the matches, she struggled setting the middles. As often as I've dinged Maafala for her bad setting, she was at least decent at setting our middles. For these reasons, I'm favoring Westerberg to be moved to OPP where she can do the most damage.
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Post by dd2000 on Dec 4, 2018 19:36:38 GMT -5
Precisely Baytree, with the majority of our passers (Granato, Akiu, Maafala) now graduating, and with no incoming, established L on the horizon... our passing will take a big hit. This is based on the likelihood that the incoming Freshmen are not as adept at passing and defense as the Wahines they're replacing. For this reason, I' m seeing a lot of sets to the pins next season as the opportunities to set the middles tapers off. Also at present, Noreen will be the primary and only setter we have next season and as we saw at the matches, she struggled setting the middles. As often as I've dinged Maafala for her bad setting, she was at least decent at setting our middles. For these reasons, I'm favoring Westerberg to be moved to OPP where she can do the most damage. You may or may not be right regarding next years passing. We'll see. Gong, Okino, Ross, transfer?, walk on?; its a question mark for now, but that not unusual at this stage. As for serving middles, remember Amber Kaufmann? A player doesn't need to be an Opp to serve.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 4, 2018 19:44:14 GMT -5
Precisely Baytree, with the majority of our passers (Granato, Akiu, Maafala) now graduating, and with no incoming, established L on the horizon... our passing will take a big hit. This is based on the likelihood that the incoming Freshmen are not as adept at passing and defense as the Wahines they're replacing. For this reason, I' m seeing a lot of sets to the pins next season as the opportunities to set the middles tapers off. Also at present, Noreen will be the primary and only setter we have next season and as we saw at the matches, she struggled setting the middles. As often as I've dinged Maafala for her bad setting, she was at least decent at setting our middles. For these reasons, I'm favoring Westerberg to be moved to OPP where she can do the most damage. You may or may not be right regarding next years passing. We'll see. Gong, Okino, Ross, transfer?, walk on?; its a question mark for now, but that not unusual at this stage. As for serving middles, remember Amber Kaufmann? A player doesn't need to be an Opp to serve. I do not believe Robyn will go into next season with just two DS/L, Gong and Okino. I can see Robyn bringing in 2 or 3 DS/L, with most of them, if not all, being walk-ons. We will probably not know who until late Spring, early Summer. Also, as far as serving Middles, need to remember Williams was serving some the early part of this past season, and doing an OK job at it.
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Post by goblin on Dec 4, 2018 20:02:22 GMT -5
Precisely Baytree, with the majority of our passers (Granato, Akiu, Maafala) now graduating, and with no incoming, established L on the horizon... our passing will take a big hit. This is based on the likelihood that the incoming Freshmen are not as adept at passing and defense as the Wahines they're replacing. For this reason, I' m seeing a lot of sets to the pins next season as the opportunities to set the middles tapers off. Also at present, Noreen will be the primary and only setter we have next season and as we saw at the matches, she struggled setting the middles. As often as I've dinged Maafala for her bad setting, she was at least decent at setting our middles. For these reasons, I'm favoring Westerberg to be moved to OPP where she can do the most damage. You may or may not be right regarding next years passing. We'll see. Gong, Okino, Ross, transfer?, walk on?; its a question mark for now, but that not unusual at this stage. As for serving middles, remember Amber Kaufmann? A player doesn't need to be an Opp to serve. As for my question about "Has anyone witnessed Westerberg's service game?" , i meant has anyone seen clips of her serving? I haven't seen any, is she decent behind the service line?
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Post by kaipono on Dec 4, 2018 20:07:44 GMT -5
You may or may not be right regarding next years passing. We'll see. Gong, Okino, Ross, transfer?, walk on?; its a question mark for now, but that not unusual at this stage. As for serving middles, remember Amber Kaufmann? A player doesn't need to be an Opp to serve. As for my question about "Has anyone witnessed Westerberg's service game?" , i meant has anyone seen clips of her serving? I haven't seen any, is she decent behind the service line? Nope, I have seen zilch of her serving. However, if Williams is one of the starting MBs, then I think that she could serve. We saw a bit of her serve at the beginning of the season, but she really needs to work on keeping her serves in play! If Williams puts work into getting stronger, along with perfecting her serve, she is going to be one heck of a MB next season.
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Post by baytree on Dec 4, 2018 20:23:59 GMT -5
A good offensive and blocking middle is hard to beat. They can score offensively and defensively, and block on the left, middle, and right. If she's a great middle, then that's what she should be. What you say is true. But the question is, where can Westerberg help the Wahine the most. If she has to play Middle, then Robyn will lose her blocking, and offensive, ability at Opposite. Having Igiede at Middle, Robyn will not lose much in respect to blocking, but could lose some offensively. So by having Westerberg play Opposite, to me, it would help the Wahine more. The question for me is, can Westerberg play the back row, so she can be an offensive threat out of the back row. I don't understand this part at all. Ideally, you want your best blockers to play middle, not opposite. If Westerberg is a great blocker, that argues strongly for her to play middle bc she's going to be able to block both sides. Now if she's slow but otherwise a good blocker, then opposite bc you have to move fast to be a middle. Why would you lose her offense at middle? Have you seen Wisconsin this season? Rettke has the most kills on the team. She has the 7th most k/s in the B1G at 3.71. (Duello, who I think is their usual OPP, has 2.75). Even looking at Hawaii last season, where there were problems setting the middle, Burns (2.11) and Liva (2.04) had more k/s than Gaskin (1.63) and Burns had more than Iosia (2.08). In conference, both Burns (2.07) and Liva (2.10) had more k/s than either Iosia (2.00) or Gaskin (1.69). Why do you think that would change next season?
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Post by Timeless on Dec 4, 2018 20:44:48 GMT -5
Igiedes blocking numbers arent good, remember folks shes playing D3 in her state and has no highlights of her of actually blocking. IMO its best for her to redshirt because I think shes similar to Liva, can pound the crap out of the ball but can't block for beans. Anyways someone made a christmas wishlist of what they like in a transfer next year, for me I'd go for a impact top 10 All-American type OH because they can already pass and play D( hopefully) then a decent libero but they don't have to be as good as Akiu,if not give the libero jersey to Okino and hope she makes huge strides in her passing. Otherwise go for a setter that can compliment Norene and battle Lang for a starting the following year.
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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 4, 2018 21:09:27 GMT -5
Yes true, my middle hitter selections are based on that premise. Westerberg is a bad a55 hitter.....looks to be too good to be stationed as a middle. Anyone ever witness her service game? I was wondering what "a55" was. I thought it was some technical mumbo-jumbo like the "D set" or "31 set." And then, I decided not to overthink it and it came to me. LOL! Lol! I was thinking the same thing. What’s an a55? Is that a term used like in football. Then just noticed the 5 looks like an S. Then hit me. Duh 🙄
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Post by Courtside5 on Dec 4, 2018 21:13:19 GMT -5
Westernerg = Taylor reincarnated at opposite hitting the D set. 😊
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Post by raian13 on Dec 4, 2018 21:23:33 GMT -5
Westernerg = Taylor reincarnated at opposite hitting the D set. 😊 it might be too early to tell. Taylor very good spin on her shots. Westerberg just hits very hard it goes straight down the floor.
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Post by goblin on Dec 4, 2018 21:31:13 GMT -5
I was wondering what "a55" was. I thought it was some technical mumbo-jumbo like the "D set" or "31 set." And then, I decided not to overthink it and it came to me. LOL! Lol! I was thinking the same thing. What’s an a55? Is that a term used like in football. Then just noticed the 5 looks like an S. Then hit me. Duh 🙄 Yeah I used the a55 because I didn't want to risk getting reported...fastest way to make a goblin disappear
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