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Post by wahinefan on Dec 4, 2018 21:39:17 GMT -5
Igiedes blocking numbers arent good, remember folks shes playing D3 in her state and has no highlights of her of actually blocking. IMO its best for her to redshirt because I think shes similar to Liva, can pound the crap out of the ball but can't block for beans. Anyways someone made a christmas wishlist of what they like in a transfer next year, for me I'd go for a impact top 10 All-American type OH because they can already pass and play D( hopefully) then a decent libero but they don't have to be as good as Akiu,if not give the libero jersey to Okino and hope she makes huge strides in her passing. Otherwise go for a setter that can compliment Norene and battle Lang for a starting the following year. People need to remember, Robyn hates losing, with a passion. With that in mind, she want after players who she felt could start right away. I truly believe she did not want project players, knowing what players she already had. So in that aspect, I think she is looking at Igiede as a starting Middle, next year. She has seen igiede play, and so has Angelica. If either of them even thought Igiede could not be a good blocker, I do not think they would have offered her a scholarship. That goes for all 5 of the signed players, being able to start from day 1 next year. The only returning player that has locked down a Starting Job next year is, Norene Iosia, at Setter. All the other returning players will have to battle the incoming players for a starting job. It will be an uphill battle for all them, I believe. Which is what Robyn is hoping for, to make the Wahine a better team.
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Post by noblesol on Dec 4, 2018 21:43:43 GMT -5
With luck, we'll get a setter transfer that battles Noreen for starts. Competition is good across the board.
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Post by dd2000 on Dec 4, 2018 21:56:16 GMT -5
What you say is true. But the question is, where can Westerberg help the Wahine the most. If she has to play Middle, then Robyn will lose her blocking, and offensive, ability at Opposite. Having Igiede at Middle, Robyn will not lose much in respect to blocking, but could lose some offensively. So by having Westerberg play Opposite, to me, it would help the Wahine more. The question for me is, can Westerberg play the back row, so she can be an offensive threat out of the back row. I don't understand this part at all. Ideally, you want your best blockers to play middle, not opposite. If Westerberg is a great blocker, that argues strongly for her to play middle bc she's going to be able to block both sides. Now if she's slow but otherwise a good blocker, then opposite bc you have to move fast to be a middle. Why would you lose her offense at middle? Have you seen Wisconsin this season? Rettke has the most kills on the team. She has the 7th most k/s in the B1G at 3.71. (Duello, who I think is their usual OPP, has 2.75). Even looking at Hawaii last season, where there were problems setting the middle, Burns (2.11) and Liva (2.04) had more k/s than Gaskin (1.63) and Burns had more than Iosia (2.08). In conference, both Burns (2.07) and Liva (2.10) had more k/s than either Iosia (2.00) or Gaskin (1.69). Why do you think that would change next season? Agree. More times than not, the proven and/or "star" middle has stayed at middle when some thought they should be moved. Think Maglio last year. A second string or less of a star is more likely to make the transition to OH or opp. Think Castillo.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 4, 2018 22:41:14 GMT -5
I don't understand this part at all. Ideally, you want your best blockers to play middle, not opposite. If Westerberg is a great blocker, that argues strongly for her to play middle bc she's going to be able to block both sides. Now if she's slow but otherwise a good blocker, then opposite bc you have to move fast to be a middle. Why would you lose her offense at middle? Have you seen Wisconsin this season? Rettke has the most kills on the team. She has the 7th most k/s in the B1G at 3.71. (Duello, who I think is their usual OPP, has 2.75). Even looking at Hawaii last season, where there were problems setting the middle, Burns (2.11) and Liva (2.04) had more k/s than Gaskin (1.63) and Burns had more than Iosia (2.08). In conference, both Burns (2.07) and Liva (2.10) had more k/s than either Iosia (2.00) or Gaskin (1.69). Why do you think that would change next season? Agree. More times than not, the proven and/or "star" middle has stayed at middle when some thought they should be moved. Think Maglio last year. A second string or less of a star is more likely to make the transition to OH or opp. Think Castillo. Remember, Dave Shoji was saying that he was going to move Maglio to Opposite, for her Senior Year, before he retired. But Robyn ultimately kept her at the Middle position for her Senior Year.
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Post by brooselee on Dec 4, 2018 23:47:27 GMT -5
I wonder what Robyn is really looking for in terms of backup setter for 2019. . Is she looking for one from a D1 program or she wouldn’t mind to get someone who is a year or two away and can learn under Noreen and maybe start in 2020?
It will be hard to get another D1 level setter when that player will look at UH’s roster and sees an all conference setter Noreen Iosia coming back. I think it would be easier to either go international or JC route....kinda how we got Faith. Ideal would be to find someone willing to transfer mid year so she will have off season workouts with the team and will be ready to go next season. Hope Robyn have somebody on board already and will announce it along with other surprises soon.
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Post by goblin on Dec 5, 2018 0:09:50 GMT -5
My guess is a D1 setter with D1 playing experience, someone like a Monica Stauber from a few years back. Either that or a D1 starter that wants to transfer out due to a coaching change. Would be nice to have her for at least 2 years in case Lang is not ready to transition to D1
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Post by raian13 on Dec 5, 2018 0:14:46 GMT -5
Can we get a transfer setter that’s at least 6’ please?
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Post by kolohekeiki on Dec 5, 2018 0:23:37 GMT -5
Precisely Baytree, with the majority of our passers (Granato, Akiu, Maafala) now graduating, and with no incoming, established L on the horizon... our passing will take a big hit. This is based on the likelihood that the incoming Freshmen are not as adept at passing and defense as the Wahines they're replacing. For this reason, I' m seeing a lot of sets to the pins next season as the opportunities to set the middles tapers off. Also at present, Noreen will be the primary and only setter we have next season and as we saw at the matches, she struggled setting the middles. As often as I've dinged Maafala for her bad setting, she was at least decent at setting our middles. For these reasons, I'm favoring Westerberg to be moved to OPP where she can do the most damage. You may or may not be right regarding next years passing. We'll see. Gong, Okino, Ross, transfer?, walk on?; its a question mark for now, but that not unusual at this stage. As for serving middles, remember Amber Kaufmann? A player doesn't need to be an Opp to serve. Is Ross really that good of a passer/defender? Because I would think she would have played all six rotations all those times she subbed in for Castillo if she was good on serve receive, instead of Robyn bringing in a DS for her.
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Post by kolohekeiki on Dec 5, 2018 0:28:40 GMT -5
When was the last time the Wahine didn't have anyone make all-region?
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Post by baytree on Dec 5, 2018 0:36:39 GMT -5
I don't understand this part at all. Ideally, you want your best blockers to play middle, not opposite. If Westerberg is a great blocker, that argues strongly for her to play middle bc she's going to be able to block both sides. Now if she's slow but otherwise a good blocker, then opposite bc you have to move fast to be a middle. Why would you lose her offense at middle? Have you seen Wisconsin this season? Rettke has the most kills on the team. She has the 7th most k/s in the B1G at 3.71. (Duello, who I think is their usual OPP, has 2.75). Even looking at Hawaii last season, where there were problems setting the middle, Burns (2.11) and Liva (2.04) had more k/s than Gaskin (1.63) and Burns had more than Iosia (2.08). In conference, both Burns (2.07) and Liva (2.10) had more k/s than either Iosia (2.00) or Gaskin (1.69). Why do you think that would change next season? Agree. More times than not, the proven and/or "star" middle has stayed at middle when some thought they should be moved. Think Maglio last year. A second string or less of a star is more likely to make the transition to OH or opp. Think Castillo. Exactly. Why would you move a "star" player out of position (unless you're Stanford)? If you can, you play your star where s/he shines brightest and fill in around her (him). Rettke has carried Wisconsin in at least a few games this season. Usually, the OH1 does that by getting the most kills but Wisconsin gives Dana as many swings as the OHs get. Cal Poly kept Torrey Van Winden as an opposite and started setting out of system balls to her instead of moving her to OH (who get the OOS balls for almost every other team). They changed their system to fit TVW, not the other way around. It can be hard enough to adjust to college volleyball without having to learn a new position too. Help your stars be the best players they can be. If Westerberg is a star middle and if Hawaii can fill in around her adequately, IMO they should keep her at middle. Lundqvist will help her become an even better middle and we'll have a truly special player. Those are both big ifs but I think it's the optimal plan.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 0:38:59 GMT -5
I am thinking, Robyn is looking for a JC Setter, or a D1 transfer with at least 2 years remaining. That would allow her to look for a 2021 Setter, instead of having to look again for a Setter for 2020. Thinking here is that all the good to decent High School Setters for 2019 have already signed. Robyn's best bet is to go after a JC Setter. Thinking here is that there must still be some good to decent JC Setters still available. JC Setters are usually not looking to Start, but just happy to be part of a Top Notch Volleyball Program.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 0:41:53 GMT -5
Agree. More times than not, the proven and/or "star" middle has stayed at middle when some thought they should be moved. Think Maglio last year. A second string or less of a star is more likely to make the transition to OH or opp. Think Castillo. Exactly. Why would you move a "star" player out of position (unless you're Stanford)? If you can, you play your star where s/he shines brightest and fill in around her (him). Rettke has carried Wisconsin in at least a few games this season. Usually, the OH1 does that by getting the most kills but Wisconsin gives Dana as many swings as the OHs get. Cal Poly kept Torrey Van Winden as an opposite and started setting out of system balls to her instead of moving her to OH (who get the OOS balls for almost every other team). They changed their system to fit TVW, not the other way around. It can be hard enough to adjust to college volleyball without having to learn a new position too. Help your stars be the best players they can be. If Westerberg is a star middle and if Hawaii can fill in around her adequately, IMO they should keep her at middle. Lundqvist will help her become an even better middle and we'll have a truly special player. Those are both big ifs but I think it's the optimal plan. Have you all forgotten what Dave Shoji did with Emily Hartong, already. Moving her from Middle to OH1.
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Post by baytree on Dec 5, 2018 0:42:16 GMT -5
Didn't The Natural say that Hawaii was looking at Bailey Choy transferring back and that she was interested? It wasn't a done deal but I hope Hawaii can get someone like that.
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Post by baytree on Dec 5, 2018 0:42:55 GMT -5
Exactly. Why would you move a "star" player out of position (unless you're Stanford)? If you can, you play your star where s/he shines brightest and fill in around her (him). Rettke has carried Wisconsin in at least a few games this season. Usually, the OH1 does that by getting the most kills but Wisconsin gives Dana as many swings as the OHs get. Cal Poly kept Torrey Van Winden as an opposite and started setting out of system balls to her instead of moving her to OH (who get the OOS balls for almost every other team). They changed their system to fit TVW, not the other way around. It can be hard enough to adjust to college volleyball without having to learn a new position too. Help your stars be the best players they can be. If Westerberg is a star middle and if Hawaii can fill in around her adequately, IMO they should keep her at middle. Lundqvist will help her become an even better middle and we'll have a truly special player. Those are both big ifs but I think it's the optimal plan. Have you all forgotten what Dave Shoji did with Emily Hartong, already. Moving her from Middle to OH1. I know it happens. I'm talking about what's ideal. That's why I have the two big "ifs".
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 0:47:16 GMT -5
Have you all forgotten what Dave Shoji did with Emily Hartong, already. Moving her from Middle to OH1. I know it happens. I'm talking about what's ideal. That's why I have the two big "ifs". The ideal would be to have Westerberg at Opposite IF Igiede, or even Akana, can crack the starting lineup at Middle.
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