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Post by pineappleexpress on Dec 5, 2018 2:36:40 GMT -5
Since we are on the topic of middles and outsides has anyone looked at the new recruits videos and the liberos passing there setters the ball?
I wonder if any of them are worth looking at or if they are signed just a thought.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 2:44:23 GMT -5
A few things:
1. I am expecting great improvement in Iosia's setting next year. Reason being, she will be getting one on one teaching from Robyn this Spring, since she is the only Setter on the Roster. 2. Neither Iosia, or Ma'afala set Gaskin that often, until the very end of the season. 3. Iosia was setting Nikki Taylor, even with out of system balls. So she is very capable of setting the Opposite position on out of system balls. 4. How many sets did Iosia get when she was playing Opposite? 5. It would be interesting to go back and see how many good balls Iosia got, so she was able to set the Middle.
With all this said, I am expecting to see an extremely improved Iosia, at the Setter position. I am also thinking, Robyn is expecting an All-American kind of performance out of Iosia, next year. To that point, Robyn will be working with Iosia, so she can gain that kind of status.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 2:51:42 GMT -5
Since we are on the topic of middles and outsides has anyone looked at the new recruits videos and the liberos passing there setters the ball? I wonder if any of them are worth looking at or if they are signed just a thought. If they were worth being considered, and still available, Robyn would have offered, or at least asked if they wanted to walk-on. Cause she knew that she was going to lose Akiu. So I am guessing not. Robyn is no dummy when it comes to Volleyball, and neither is Angelica. They both know what they need, to make the Wahine a powerhouse again. Let me tell you, both Robyn and Angelica, will get the Wahine to be once again a powerhouse in Women's Volleyball.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Dec 5, 2018 3:05:53 GMT -5
Agreed I was looking at Westerberg her team had a couple of girls that looked good but I'm sure they are either committed or like you said not there just yet.
Good voice of reason I'm sure Robyn has it under control.
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Post by kaipono on Dec 5, 2018 3:49:19 GMT -5
A few things: 1. I am expecting great improvement in Iosia's setting next year. Reason being, she will be getting one on one teaching from Robyn this Spring, since she is the only Setter on the Roster. 2. Neither Iosia, or Ma'afala set Gaskin that often, until the very end of the season. 3. Iosia was setting Nikki Taylor, even with out of system balls. So she is very capable of setting the Opposite position on out of system balls. 4. How many sets did Iosia get when she was playing Opposite? 5. It would be interesting to go back and see how many good balls Iosia got, so she was able to set the Middle. With all this said, I am expecting to see an extremely improved Iosia, at the Setter position. I am also thinking, Robyn is expecting an All-American kind of performance out of Iosia, next year. To that point, Robyn will be working with Iosia, so she can gain that kind of status. Wow, I wish I could be this optimistic as you, but I am just expecting Iosia to be better than this year. I really hope she can take advantage of being the only setter on the roster come Spring, so she will definitely be able to take all of the reps. Like you said, passing may be one of our weaker points next year with Akiu gone, but Iosia set our middles less than Ma'afala. I do not know if it was necessarily because Ma'afala was getting better balls than Iosia, but I hope Iosia can work on her setting the middles. I'm also expecting Okino to get better on her passing, and apparently, Hellvig is a beach player with steady passing (?), and Wagoner is known to be a pretty decent passer. Side Note: Iosia was also the only one who set Gaskin because Ma'afala would sub in for Gaskin when she would go to the back row. I do think she set Gaskin more towards the end of the season, but I do not know why their connection was not that great at the start of the season. Maybe it was chemistry or the fact that Gaskin was left-handed?
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Post by 808empath on Dec 5, 2018 13:39:04 GMT -5
A few things: 1. I am expecting great improvement in Iosia's setting next year. Reason being, she will be getting one on one teaching from Robyn this Spring, since she is the only Setter on the Roster. 2. Neither Iosia, or Ma'afala set Gaskin that often, until the very end of the season. 3. Iosia was setting Nikki Taylor, even with out of system balls. So she is very capable of setting the Opposite position on out of system balls. 4. How many sets did Iosia get when she was playing Opposite? 5. It would be interesting to go back and see how many good balls Iosia got, so she was able to set the Middle. With all this said, I am expecting to see an extremely improved Iosia, at the Setter position. I am also thinking, Robyn is expecting an All-American kind of performance out of Iosia, next year. To that point, Robyn will be working with Iosia, so she can gain that kind of status. Wow, I wish I could be this optimistic as you, but I am just expecting Iosia to be better than this year. I really hope she can take advantage of being the only setter on the roster come Spring, so she will definitely be able to take all of the reps. Like you said, passing may be one of our weaker points next year with Akiu gone, but Iosia set our middles less than Ma'afala. I do not know if it was necessarily because Ma'afala was getting better balls than Iosia, but I hope Iosia can work on her setting the middles. I'm also expecting Okino to get better on her passing, and apparently, Hellvig is a beach player with steady passing (?), and Wagoner is known to be a pretty decent passer. Side Note: Iosia was also the only one who set Gaskin because Ma'afala would sub in for Gaskin when she would go to the back row. I do think she set Gaskin more towards the end of the season, but I do not know why their connection was not that great at the start of the season. Maybe it was chemistry or the fact that Gaskin was left-handed? Re: Gaskin & Iosia. During a couple of the broadcasts Lisa Strand-Ma'a said that setting a southpaw/lefty opposite is a bit different than setting a right handed one. So maybe it was a timing/location problem that eventually got worked out towards the end of the season. 😉
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Post by 5100 on Dec 5, 2018 14:06:00 GMT -5
When was the last time the Wahine didn't have anyone make all-region? I started following the team in the early 2000s and they always had at least one. 2017 - Maglio 2016 - Taylor, Maglio 2015 - Taylor, Magill 2014 - Magill 2013 - Hartong, Taylor (HM) 2012 - Hartong, Uiato 2011 - Danielson, Hartong, Hewitt (HM) 2010 - Danielson, Hewitt, Mafua 2009 - Danielson, Mafua, Kaufman, Otineru 2008 - Houston, Danielson (FOY), Mafua, Otineru, Kaufman (HM) 2007 - Houston 2006 - Kamana'o, Houston, Mason, Sanders 2005 - Kamana'o, Prince, Watanabe (HM) 2004 - Kamana'o, Prince, Arnott (HM) 2003 - Willoughby, Kahumoku, Kamana'o (FOY), Duggins (HM) 2002 - Willoughby, Kahumoku, Duggins 2001 - Willoughby 2000 - Kahumoku, Gustin
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Post by goblin on Dec 5, 2018 14:33:13 GMT -5
We are still missing critical pieces in the recruiting process, once these pieces are in place, we have the potential to be good in time. Our front line will be comprised mostly of true freshmen and experience is the best teacher as they transition to the game of Div 1 collegiate volleyball.
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Post by Seahawks 1972 on Dec 5, 2018 14:57:03 GMT -5
Sorry, I had to re-read it again. But like most of you have stated, Iosia sets the Outsides, both sides, better then she does the Middle. With that in mind, and what could be a deficiency in the Wahine Team next year, Passing. How many sets do you think the Middles will be getting. When Iosia is able to set the Middle how often will it be good sets. With that in mind, at what position will Westerberg be able to help the Wahine the most. I am thinking Opposite, more then Middle. I think that Iosia could set the middles more and better IF Robyn tells her she has to. But that might require at least a decent backup. If Iosia is even a mediocre setter, setting the middles shouldn't be a problem. I think she can be much better than mediocre but if she's not, Robyn needs to get a better setter ASAP. That might be even more important than a transfer libero since we have Okino. If you want to maximize swings and don't think your passers or setter are good enough to set the middles, why not move Westerberg to OH1? That's who gets all the swings, front row and back. Unless you have TVW (or similar) and have her taking the swings. IMO if our passers and setter aren't good enough to set the middles much, we're probably going to have a bad year anyway. We'll have to hope that the other BWC teams have even worse seasons. Which could be liberating bc we won't be trying to win the BWC. Move everyone to where you think they have the highest ceiling (for 2020 and beyond), don't worry about next season at all, and work on serve and pass plus blocking. I doubt that Robyn would do that, though. So many of the matches were won or kept close when Maafala mixed the sets, but many of times it was too late because the hole was dug way to deep. Not sure why Norene had such a mental block when setting Magil and Burns but it happen too often and at most crucial of times. Dave would go ballistic when the middles were deprived ala Higgins and Uiato also. A natural setter has those instincts to thread the middle like Robyn, Kamanao and Mafua.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 15:21:13 GMT -5
Not sure about All-Region, but when it comes to All-American, these are the years for that status: 1984, 1992, 1997, 2007, and 2014. If you look back, you will see what occurs with Wahine teams after those years. Most often then not, 3 to 4 years after those years, the Wahine won a National Championship, made the Regional Semi-Final or Final, or played in the National Championship Match. Will history repeat itself again. The point I am trying to make is, following these non-All-American years, Dave Shoji brought in some very talented players. Has Robyn Ah-Mow Santos followed the same pattern as Dave Shoji, with this slew of incoming players. Guess we will all find out 3 to 4 years from now. Will this slew of incoming players lead the Wahine very deep into the NCAA Tournament, and which ones will gain All-American status in the process.
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Post by raian13 on Dec 5, 2018 17:14:34 GMT -5
Maglio being an AA and member of the Canadian NT opened the pipeline and i think influenced Weterberg’s commitment to UH. Hopefully there will be more to follow.
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Post by baytree on Dec 5, 2018 19:13:23 GMT -5
Am I the only one who hopes that we get a transfer setter after this semester so that she can work with Robyn and the team in the spring? I think that's important so that the returning players and the new setter can get used to each other. Also so that it's easy to run scrimmages with your players.
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 5, 2018 19:53:10 GMT -5
Faith Ma'afala can volunteer to practice with the girls in the spring if they need another setter for scrimmages. Also, I'm sure RAMS could be the setter on the B side if necessary. Also, one of the boys -- Castello or Baxter -- could also set.
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Post by Seahawks 1972 on Dec 5, 2018 19:54:12 GMT -5
Am I the only one who hopes that we get a transfer setter after this semester so that she can work with Robyn and the team in the spring? I think that's important so that the returning players and the new setter can get used to each other. Also so that it's easy to run scrimmages with your players. I suspect it may already be in the works
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Post by baytree on Dec 5, 2018 19:55:01 GMT -5
I agree that you could make do without having a transfer setter this spring but IMO it's far from ideal. You want the setter and your players to get used to each other.
A few ppl were saying that Iosia would be the only setter. It seemed like they thought that would be a good thing.
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