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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:19:17 GMT -5
Not once this past season did Robyn have any concerns regarding Iosia's setting. All Robyn had for Iosia was a lot of praise. If anyone knows about the Setting position, it is Robyn. So if Robyn is not saying anything about Iosia's setting we should not also. We just need to have confidence in Iosia. I for one know that we will see a much improved Iosia next year. To think that Coach Robyn did not have issues with Norene's not setting the middles is an understatement. I suspect majority of the TO's were due to that specific issue. Coach Robyn may not have mentioned it it public but what coach worth their grain of salt would. Norene being the only setter for next season is not the answer, no matter how good she is or appears to be to many. Were you in the huddle they had every time out, I am thinking not. So how do you know what Robyn was saying in those timeouts. From just Robyn's hand and arm gestures, most of her comments were aimed at her hitters. Or, it concerned the mental attitude, or lack there of, of the players on the floor.
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Post by brooselee on Dec 5, 2018 22:26:01 GMT -5
The off season is where you get bigger, stronger, faster. This is where those out of shape...get in shape. This is where those who have passing issues work on them. This is where those who need to increase their vertical and explosiveness make time to work out.
Once the regular season comes around, it’s too late to work on personal shortcomings. During the regular season, the main emphasis is team. Coaches are not going to waste their time babying those who did not take advantage of the off season to improve.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:26:46 GMT -5
This is one year were it really does not matter, since the majority of your starting hitters, OH & OPP, will be showing up in August. So as long as Robyn brings in another setter by then, it will be OK. I disagree. First, we don't know if any of the returning players will be starters or regular subs. But even if they only sub in occasionally, it will help the setter to have those relationships established. It will let her concentrate on the new players without worrying how things will work if there are injuries, etc. It will give her a more solid foundation to build on in the fall, when there will be a lot to learn with all the new players. And if, e.g., Okino starts, having worked with her in the spring will help a lot IMO. Knowing your primary passer is important for a setter (and knowing your setter is important for your primary passer). Iosia already has that repour with the returning players. It is not like Iosia is a new player, she has been with for 3 years now. What she needs to learn from Robyn, in my respect, is the mental part of the setting game. That is where this Spring will be very important for Iosia, being the only Setter. Having that individual attention given to her, by Robyn. Unlike, when there are 2 or 3 other Setters.
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Post by brooselee on Dec 5, 2018 22:30:26 GMT -5
God forbid this is the one year we need a big time transfer. Maybe Lanier can join Iosia in paradise for a year then go back home. I just hope if we do get transfers they aren't one dimensional like Gaskin and Liva. We need players that will make an impact in games and push the bench to bring the best out of them. Robyn needs to go hard after Ava Bell. She is somebody that can provide versatility and somebody who can play a lot of positions. She is a dynamic athlete who will no doubt make this team better.
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Post by Seahawks 1972 on Dec 5, 2018 22:30:53 GMT -5
To think that Coach Robyn did not have issues with Norene's not setting the middles is an understatement. I suspect majority of the TO's were due to that specific issue. Coach Robyn may not have mentioned it it public but what coach worth their grain of salt would. Norene being the only setter for next season is not the answer, no matter how good she is or appears to be to many. Were you in the huddle they had every time out, I am thinking not. So how do you know what Robyn was saying in those timeouts. From just Robyn's hand and arm gestures, most of her comments were aimed at her hitters. Or, it concerned the mental attitude, or lack there of, of the players on the floor. You weren't either so what's your point.
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Post by baytree on Dec 5, 2018 22:31:51 GMT -5
I disagree. First, we don't know if any of the returning players will be starters or regular subs. But even if they only sub in occasionally, it will help the setter to have those relationships established. It will let her concentrate on the new players without worrying how things will work if there are injuries, etc. It will give her a more solid foundation to build on in the fall, when there will be a lot to learn with all the new players. And if, e.g., Okino starts, having worked with her in the spring will help a lot IMO. Knowing your primary passer is important for a setter (and knowing your setter is important for your primary passer). Iosia already has that repour with the returning players. It is not like Iosia is a new player, she has been with for 3 years now. What she needs to learn from Robyn, in my respect, is the mental part of the setting game. That is where this Spring will be very important for Iosia, being the only Setter. Having that individual attention given to her, by Robyn. Unlike, when there are 2 or 3 other Setters. I was talking about the other setter getting to know and play with the ppl on the team, not Iosia. She'd also have more time to work with Robyn if she came in the spring.
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Post by Timeless on Dec 5, 2018 22:33:30 GMT -5
God forbid this is the one year we need a big time transfer. Maybe Lanier can join Iosia in paradise for a year then go back home. I just hope if we do get transfers they aren't one dimensional like Gaskin and Liva. We need players that will make an impact in games and push the bench to bring the best out of them. Robyn needs to go hard after Ava Bell. She is somebody that can provide versatility and somebody who can play a lot of positions. She is a dynamic athlete who will no doubt make this team better. if we land her we may have a NC pipeline which is great. East coast has way more talent since the top schools out west are most likely going to the the cream of the crop.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:34:43 GMT -5
The off season is where you get bigger, stronger, faster. This is where those out of shape...get in shape. This is where those who have passing issues work on them. This is where those who need to increase their vertical and explosiveness make time to work out. Once the regular season comes around, it’s too late to work on personal shortcomings. During the regular season, the main emphasis is team. Coaches are not going to waste their time babying those who did not take advantage of the off season to improve. Like hand positioning, when blocking, and footwork. Even to correct any deficiency the hitters have in their arm swing. These are the things that are worked on in Spring. Not to mention what was brought up by Brooselee. There is no time during Fall Practice, or even during the season, to correct these kinds of problems.
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Post by Seahawks 1972 on Dec 5, 2018 22:35:15 GMT -5
To think that Coach Robyn did not have issues with Norene's not setting the middles is an understatement. I suspect majority of the TO's were due to that specific issue. Coach Robyn may not have mentioned it it public but what coach worth their grain of salt would. Norene being the only setter for next season is not the answer, no matter how good she is or appears to be to many. How is that an understatement? Robyn had her hitting on the outside lol she has nothing to say about iosia’s setting because iosia had to pull her load on the outside. Iosia was needed at the pins, no doubt about that. You can give the same credit to the other team members that also came through that contributed to the wins. Norene being the only setter is NOT the answer.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:38:11 GMT -5
Were you in the huddle they had every time out, I am thinking not. So how do you know what Robyn was saying in those timeouts. From just Robyn's hand and arm gestures, most of her comments were aimed at her hitters. Or, it concerned the mental attitude, or lack there of, of the players on the floor. You weren't either so what's your point. My point is, just by looking at Robyn's hand and arm gestures, she definitely was not talking about the setting. Most often then not she was talking to the hitters, or about the blocking.
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 5, 2018 22:39:36 GMT -5
The off season is where you get bigger, stronger, faster. This is where those out of shape...get in shape. This is where those who have passing issues work on them. This is where those who need to increase their vertical and explosiveness make time to work out. Once the regular season comes around, it’s too late to work on personal shortcomings. During the regular season, the main emphasis is team. Coaches are not going to waste their time babying those who did not take advantage of the off season to improve. Like hand positioning, when blocking, and footwork. Even to correct any deficiency the hitters have in their arm swing. These are the things that are worked on in Spring. Not to mention what was brought up by Brooselee. There is no time during Fall Practice, or even during the season, to correct these kinds of problems. Some of these players have had two springs, two Falls (double days) and two seasons with this coaching staff. I'm not sure what significant improvements you think are going to happen this spring.
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Post by brooselee on Dec 5, 2018 22:40:20 GMT -5
Robyn needs to go hard after Ava Bell. She is somebody that can provide versatility and somebody who can play a lot of positions. She is a dynamic athlete who will no doubt make this team better. if we land her we may have a NC pipeline which is great. East coast has way more talent since the top schools out west are most likely going to the the cream of the crop. Ava is from Texas so it’s not like we reaching into foreign territory. We got two Texans coming in in 2020 so she will have “company”. Maybe Robyn can use our last Texan as a selling point. Annie Mitchem is now playing pro ball in Europe.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:43:35 GMT -5
How is that an understatement? Robyn had her hitting on the outside lol she has nothing to say about iosia’s setting because iosia had to pull her load on the outside. Iosia was needed at the pins, no doubt about that. You can give the same credit to the other team members that also came through that contributed to the wins. Norene being the only setter is NOT the answer. I can tell you, Robyn is not out looking for a Setter to replace, unseat, Iosia. So unless something happens to Iosia, she will be the starting Setter, throughout next season. Robyn has high regards for Iosia as a Setter.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:48:39 GMT -5
Like hand positioning, when blocking, and footwork. Even to correct any deficiency the hitters have in their arm swing. These are the things that are worked on in Spring. Not to mention what was brought up by Brooselee. There is no time during Fall Practice, or even during the season, to correct these kinds of problems. Some of these players have had two springs, two Falls (double days) and two seasons with this coaching staff. I'm not sure what significant improvements you think are going to happen this spring. Sibley still needs a lot of things to work on, Castaneda has a lot more. Williams, still needs to work on her footwork, and hand position, when blocking. Both Okino and Gong, have a lot more to work on when it comes to receiving, and passing. Iosia, on the mental part of Setting. So all these returning players still have things to work on.
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 5, 2018 22:53:42 GMT -5
if we land her we may have a NC pipeline which is great. East coast has way more talent since the top schools out west are most likely going to the the cream of the crop. Ava is from Texas so it’s not like we reaching into foreign territory. We got two Texans coming in in 2020 so she will have “company”. Maybe Robyn can use our last Texan as a selling point. Annie Mitchem is now playing pro ball in Europe. Who is to say, Robyn is not. I am quite sure Robyn is out scouring all over for volleyball players. I do know one thing, Robyn will not rest until she makes the Wahine a Powerhouse Volleyball Program once again. It is in her makeup, TO BE THE BEST!!!!
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