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Post by greenthumb on Dec 7, 2018 0:09:31 GMT -5
Not sure if this is entirely true or correct, but Hellvig's admission/signing is pending because of two reasons: 1. Swedish educational system is different so UH is waiting for some grades to be finalized. 2. She allegedly has to take the TOEFL again to pass minimum requirements for UH admission. Shouldn't be an issue, but she will get in. Some men's vball players and several tennis players struggled with the writing section of TOEFL, so it's nothing to worry about. Well, those both sound reasonable. Add in, if her packet needs to be screened and approved by NCAA rather than just by UH staff, those guys have higher volumes and less urgency than we do internally. Also, if the writing section of TOEFL is at all like other longer-form admission-type tests, scoring and marking can take a surprisingly long time. |
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 7, 2018 0:31:26 GMT -5
Not sure if this is entirely true or correct, but Hellvig's admission/signing is pending because of two reasons: 1. Swedish educational system is different so UH is waiting for some grades to be finalized. 2. She allegedly has to take the TOEFL again to pass minimum requirements for UH admission. Shouldn't be an issue, but she will get in. Some men's vball players and several tennis players struggled with the writing section of TOEFL, so it's nothing to worry about. Could you explain some things about the TOEFL and UH? 1. What's the minimum required score? 2. How is it possible to get into UH without the minimum score? 3. Why is this "nothing to worry about" if so many international players struggled with the TOEFL? |
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Post by diyakuno on Dec 7, 2018 2:32:39 GMT -5
Not sure if this is entirely true or correct, but Hellvig's admission/signing is pending because of two reasons: 1. Swedish educational system is different so UH is waiting for some grades to be finalized. 2. She allegedly has to take the TOEFL again to pass minimum requirements for UH admission. Shouldn't be an issue, but she will get in. Some men's vball players and several tennis players struggled with the writing section of TOEFL, so it's nothing to worry about. Could you explain some things about the TOEFL and UH? 1. What's the minimum required score? 2. How is it possible to get into UH without the minimum score? 3. Why is this "nothing to worry about" if so many international players struggled with the TOEFL? 1. It depends on the program, but on a scale of 0-130, you must score 100. 2. A lot of students get admitted to UH with SAT scores way below the minimum score. This is not uncommon, but it's especially difficult to get that "pass" when you are an international student. If TOEFL is not in her favor, an English teacher who can write a statement of her fluency could help. 3. Nothing to worry about because TOEFL is not an accurate indicator of English literacy and competency. I'm thinking Hellvig is a great speaker of English, but she may be struggling with the writing and listening section (as did some other students). It's just a factor for admission. I know for a fact Van Tilburg is an excellent communicator in English, but his writing was horrible. Some other international students in the men's team barely passed the TOEFL. They got in, and you would be surprised by how "bad" TOEFL classifies their English competency when you hear them speak or communicate with English. I'm thinking this leniency is political, especially for UH because we are linguistically diverse, and sometimes you don't have to be able to know how to write & speak to be considered "fluent" or "effective communicator." Also, on a side note, I think it's also a bit mysogynistic for NCAA to have to tighten some restrictions for female import players. I think they have to undergo more medical requirements and clearance than do men, which could explain the disproportionate number of male to female players. Also, another inside scoop from the international students office - we may have another power hitter coming in from Europe, signing in 2020. I heard she is heavily looked upon by top programs, but I think Angelica might have been a great factor. It is not final yet, but she is leaning towards UH. I will update as soon as I hear more. =) |
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Post by diyakuno on Dec 7, 2018 2:37:37 GMT -5
Not sure if this is entirely true or correct, but Hellvig's admission/signing is pending because of two reasons: 1. Swedish educational system is different so UH is waiting for some grades to be finalized. 2. She allegedly has to take the TOEFL again to pass minimum requirements for UH admission. Shouldn't be an issue, but she will get in. Some men's vball players and several tennis players struggled with the writing section of TOEFL, so it's nothing to worry about. Well, those both sound reasonable. Add in, if her packet needs to be screened and approved by NCAA rather than just by UH staff, those guys have higher volumes and less urgency than we do internally. Also, if the writing section of TOEFL is at all like other longer-form admission-type tests, scoring and marking can take a surprisingly long time. You're correct on all points. I also assume that Sweden, although many young Swedes are starting to learn English outside school, it is something NCAA or a lot of universities are not aware of, that why TOEFL is just one factor in determining their success with English. For Hellvig's case, I heard she struggled with some grammar and writing (which makes sense because Swedish is linguistically far from English). She'll get in regardless. It's just a matter of time. |
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Post by greenthumb on Dec 7, 2018 3:11:34 GMT -5
Well, those both sound reasonable. Add in, if her packet needs to be screened and approved by NCAA rather than just by UH staff, those guys have higher volumes and less urgency than we do internally. Also, if the writing section of TOEFL is at all like other longer-form admission-type tests, scoring and marking can take a surprisingly long time. You're correct on all points. I also assume that Sweden, although many young Swedes are starting to learn English outside school, it is something NCAA or a lot of universities are not aware of, that why TOEFL is just one factor in determining their success with English. For Hellvig's case, I heard she struggled with some grammar and writing (which makes sense because Swedish is linguistically far from English). She'll get in regardless. It's just a matter of time. Without going way off topic, people tend to progress toward verbal (conversational) fluency more rapidly than written fluency, so the issues that spring from different grammatical frameworks are another layer of complication for the student and for any sort of standardized assessment. People communicating in a second or third language also tend to comprehend what they hear or read more adeptly than they might express that same information — receiving is easier than constructing. Add in that TOEFL and assessments for younger students are looking for comprehension and fluency not only in conversational communication but the more challenging sphere of academic communication and ... yeah. I’m incredibly impressed with international students. College was hard enough in my first language. |
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Post by wahinefan on Dec 7, 2018 22:48:26 GMT -5
I will be extremely happy if this incoming Freshmen class can lead the Wahine to at least the Sweet Sixteen, next year.
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Post by pineappleexpress on Dec 8, 2018 1:43:53 GMT -5
They sure grow them big in Canada and Sweden. Is Westerberg Norwegian? Norwegian Canadian and a Swede we are in for some fun times.
Hail hail
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Post by kaipono on Dec 8, 2018 1:57:47 GMT -5
I will be extremely happy if this incoming Freshmen class can lead the Wahine to at least the Sweet Sixteen, next year. I will be extremely happy if this incoming Freshmen class can lead the Wahine to a Big West title and if they win a match in the NCAA tournament. Realistically, I would probably just be happy if they qualify for the NCAA tournament next year. |
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Post by pineappleexpress on Dec 8, 2018 2:02:28 GMT -5
Yes I know they will!
Positive always positive!!!!
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Post by coachcarrasco on Dec 8, 2018 23:25:00 GMT -5
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Post by Wolfgang on Dec 8, 2018 23:53:02 GMT -5
Which one is Westerberg? LOL! |
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Post by volleyguy on Dec 8, 2018 23:57:23 GMT -5
Which one is Westerberg? LOL! The big one who keeps running into the net. lol |
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Post by raian13 on Dec 9, 2018 0:00:52 GMT -5
Which one is Westerberg? LOL! The big one who keeps running into the net. lol Yeah I heard her scream |
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Post by rainbowcard on Dec 9, 2018 0:43:39 GMT -5
That last hit she did was nice. Can't wait to see her play
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Post by practicesafesets on Dec 9, 2018 1:55:10 GMT -5
Hanna Hellvig Highlights from the 2018 NEVZA championship match. From the footage, I can tell that she will start. She reminds me of Kalei Greeley.
She can pass and hit from the back row. She needs to work on her passing and floor defense. Her shot selection needs work as she hit into the small block several times. I don't think I saw a lot of great finesse shots and she had zero line drives.
I'm sure Robyn & Co can work on her shots and defense. Hellvig got tired and was yanked in the 2nd set, but I'm sure that she can work on her strength and conditioning at UH too. If you look at her 4th set, she was a beast!
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