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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 10:39:30 GMT -5
OK, I'm looking for some nominations for teams that have the biggest home court advantage. Don't waste time with pretenders, here, I want the ones where the home court makes a real difference. The teams that are completely different at home than on the road.
Someone like Illinois. They can beat USC at home but lose to Ill-Chicago on the road. Who else through the country is a home court team, road not so much?
I want to try some stuff with Pablo, and need to get some ideas.
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Post by beachman on Nov 27, 2004 11:25:45 GMT -5
No one has a bigger home court advantage than Hawaii. Not only the SSC, but the fact that the visiting teams, have traveled thousands of miles, are in a very scenic place full of distractions, and they have to play in front of a very large, partisan, crowd that doesn't show a lot of love  for the visiting teams, no matter who they are!  |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 11:36:28 GMT -5
No one has a bigger home court advantage than Hawaii. Not only the SSC, but the fact that the visiting teams, have traveled thousands of miles, are in a very scenic place full of distractions, and they have to play in front of a very large, partisan, crowd that doesn't show a lot of love for the visiting teams, no matter who they are! How much of an effect does it have? This year, in particular, I don't see how matches in Hawaii have been all that much more in Hawaii's favor than those on the road. Do teams in the SSC play completely different than they do at home? This is why I want you folks to really think about the effect of a home court. Hawaii is one I will consider, just because of this perspective, but there is a lot of baggage that this nomination comes with. Just because a team wins at home doesn't mean it has an exceptional home court advantage. The bigger question is how does it compare to the road. Nebraska, for example, has been tough at home, but they have been stomping pretty much everyone, regardless of where they play. That's not necessarily home court advantage. (I always laugh when people talk about home field dominance, and how such and such a team is 32 - 5 at home, or whatever. What they don't mention is that during the same stretch, the team is 29 - 8 on the road, which means that they are just good all over, and their home field advantage is unremarkable (and highly dependent on who they play)) I am looking for real home court advantages - teams that are especially better on the home court. On average, teams are better at home. But I want the special ones. |
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Post by bigfan on Nov 27, 2004 11:38:16 GMT -5
No one has a bigger home court advantage than Hawaii. Not only the SSC, but the fact that the visiting teams, have traveled thousands of miles, are in a very scenic place full of distractions, and they have to play in front of a very large, partisan, crowd that doesn't show a lot of love for the visiting teams, no matter who they are! When all is said and done all questions and answers lead to Hawai`i. This thread is done. |
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Post by comic on Nov 27, 2004 11:41:15 GMT -5
Here is an odd one, I think that UNC Wilmington has a particularly strong home court, while the team is very weak they seem to give teams a hard time at home. It may not show in w/l as much as in the scores, but it might be one to look at. I think the teams in the CAA hate going to Wilmington to play...
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 11:45:18 GMT -5
Here is an odd one, I think that UNC Wilmington has a particularly strong home court, while the team is very weak they seem to give teams a hard time at home. It may not show in w/l as much as in the scores, but it might be one to look at. I think the teams in the CAA hate going to Wilmington to play... Excellent! That is the type of stuff I'm looking for. And I think you have the right approach. Think about it by conference. Who are the teams where you say, I wouldn't be so sure, they are at home (or on the road, as the case may be). |
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Post by bigfan on Nov 27, 2004 11:48:18 GMT -5
UCSB's Thunderdome is a definite home court advantage with knowledgeable fans and rowdy student support.
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Post by huskervbfan on Nov 27, 2004 12:04:22 GMT -5
Texas A&M. Their chants, cheers, traditions, and noise level are very distracting. They are a good crowd though and not "ugly" like I've heard of others, just very organized in their cheers and it is all led by the cadets. For instance, whenever the ball is sent to the opponent's court, there is a constant loud noise from the crowd but as soon as they make their third touch, it is dead silent for their team.
The Nebraska Coliseum is tough only because of the number of fans and the fact they are right next to the court. You won't hear boos (except for an occassional bad ref call) or attempts to heckle the opponents. We prefer to take the positive approach by doing what we can to raise the level of the Husker's play rather than lower the opponents. It makes for a very family-friendly enviornment that encourages parents to bring kids and fill the Coliseum.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 12:07:01 GMT -5
UCSB's Thunderdome is a definite home court advantage with knowledgeable fans and rowdy student support. In conference games this year, I count UCSB as 25 - 8 at home, and 27 - 7 on the road. Now, scores in those away games may be closer, but I don't see it as all that big. I want teams with REAL home court advantages, not ones you think should have them based on other stuff. Consider Illinois. With a three game sweep of Iowa tonight, they will be 23 - 12 in conference games at home, but 19 - 19 on the road (and that does not even include the USC at home vs Ill-St on the road debacle) That's a real home court advantage. They actually do better at home than on the road. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 12:08:48 GMT -5
Texas A&M. Their chants, cheers, traditions, and noise level are very distracting. They are a good crowd though and not "ugly" like I've heard of others, just very organized in their cheers and it is all led by the cadets. For instance, whenever the ball is sent to the opponent's court, there is a constant loud noise from the crowd but as soon as they make their third touch, it is dead silent for their team. Does it actually give TAMU an advantage, or does it just seem like it should? See the post above for what I mean. |
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Post by huskervbfan on Nov 27, 2004 12:23:12 GMT -5
Does it actually give TAMU an advantage, or does it just seem like it should? See the post above for what I mean. TAMU home 11-1 (only loss to UCLA in 3rd match of season) TAMU road 6-6 Conference Record Home 9-0 (with 1st loss coming tonight I hope) Away 5-5 |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 12:28:01 GMT -5
TAMU home 11-1 (only loss to UCLA in 3rd match of season) TAMU road 6-6 Conference Record Home 9-0 (with 1st loss coming tonight I hope) Away 5-5 That sounds like a pretty good HCA. Thanks. In terms of games, I get 29 - 6 at home vs 18 - 17 on the road. |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Nov 27, 2004 12:42:06 GMT -5
Here is an odd one, I think that UNC Wilmington has a particularly strong home court, while the team is very weak they seem to give teams a hard time at home. It may not show in w/l as much as in the scores, but it might be one to look at. I think the teams in the CAA hate going to Wilmington to play... Considering that UN-W was winless this year, I don't think too many teams HATE going there so much. I note that UNW won two conference games at home this year, but three on the road. |
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Nov 27, 2004 13:39:36 GMT -5
Maybe throw Nevada in there. Homecourt advantage definitely helped them get past Rice in the WAC tourney, after Rice had thumped Nevada 3-0 in Houston. Nevada stretched Stanford to 5 games early in the year at home, but get taken the distance themselves by Tulsa (at Tulsa) on the road.
Nevada got some good crowds at the WAC tourney (although it's been reported that anywhwere from a third to half of the turnout were Hawaii fans). Note sure what kind of support they get the rest of the year. But Nevada also has intimate gym and plays at altitude, which teams have to learn to adjust to quickly.
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Post by BearClause on Nov 27, 2004 14:09:57 GMT -5
I know it's a down year, but Washington State has traditionally had a reputation. Rowdy (to varying degrees) fans in a smallish gym. Couple that with limited accomodations (or bad weather) in Pullman, meaning a stay in Spokane (or perhaps Seattle), along with a flight from Seattle to Spokane, and/or a 2 hour bus ride to Pullman.
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for the visiting teams, no matter who they are! 
