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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 0:21:25 GMT -5
Another season of 6-2 hell will be hard to stomach. Any transfer option please just stay away or you'll end up like Choy and Vig getting Ulmered. Lang or bust over 6-2, if we only have one setter Lang and she goes down we can have Sickle set, can't be worse than Iosia and who wouldn't love to see her set. I hope Hawaii runs a 5-1 next year as well. I think most ppl who want a back-up setter do. Lang might be fine but it's pretty common for frosh setters to struggle plus you need a real setter if the primary goes down or has an awful night (or sometimes just to shake things up even if it's not the setter's fault that the team is struggling). The only 6-2 I like is the old-fashioned kind where both setters play all-around and hit in the front/set in the back but I don'[t want Robyn to run that either bc it's not as effective as a 5-1. (I think it's more fun to watch.) |
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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 0:25:53 GMT -5
Hoping for a transfer setter with D1 experience (eg Saige, Akeo) or a setter with international experience I'd like that too but I doubt either of the setters you mentioned will want to transfer. Both are the only setter in a 5-1. I guess if Utah or Pittsburgh have a top-notch setter coming in but I haven't heard anything about that for Utah. I don't follow Pitt's recruiting so I have no idea who they have coming in. |
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 6, 2019 0:37:07 GMT -5
Another season of 6-2 hell will be hard to stomach. Any transfer option please just stay away or you'll end up like Choy and Vig getting Ulmered. Lang or bust over 6-2, if we only have one setter Lang and she goes down we can have Sickle set, can't be worse than Iosia and who wouldn't love to see her set. I hope Hawaii runs a 5-1 next year as well. I think most ppl who want a back-up setter do. Lang might be fine but it's pretty common for frosh setters to struggle plus you need a real setter if the primary goes down or has an awful night (or sometimes just to shake things up even if it's not the setter's fault that the team is struggling). The only 6-2 I like is the old-fashioned kind where both setters play all-around and hit in the front/set in the back but I don'[t want Robyn to run that either bc it's not as effective as a 5-1. (I think it's more fun to watch.) I wouldn't describe it as old-fashioned. I would say that it is rare, and it is rare because it is very difficult to execute well. Most people tend to focus on the two setters, but the key to a successful true 6-2 is having 6 exceptional hitters and two comparable setters within that group. That is exactly what Cuba had when they were the best team in the world, and really, the only successful examples of a true 6-2. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 0:40:24 GMT -5
I hope Hawaii runs a 5-1 next year as well. I think most ppl who want a back-up setter do. Lang might be fine but it's pretty common for frosh setters to struggle plus you need a real setter if the primary goes down or has an awful night (or sometimes just to shake things up even if it's not the setter's fault that the team is struggling). The only 6-2 I like is the old-fashioned kind where both setters play all-around and hit in the front/set in the back but I don'[t want Robyn to run that either bc it's not as effective as a 5-1. (I think it's more fun to watch.) I wouldn't describe it as old-fashioned. I would say that it is rare, and it is rare because it is very difficult to execute well. Most people tend to focus on the two setters, but the key to a successful true 6-2 is having 6 exceptional hitters and two comparable setters within that group. That is exactly what Cuba when they were the best team in the world, and really, one of the only successful examples of a true 6-2. It is rare but IMO Stanford and Minnesota both ran successful 6-2s where the setter both set and hit. I loved watching all three of those teams. As I said, I don't want Robyn to run one bc 5-1s seem more successful and, with so many subs in NCAA now, I don't see a good reason to go with anything but a 5-1, unless maybe your setter can't block. Plus, as you say, what are the odds that both setters are also excellent hitters? |
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 6, 2019 0:42:09 GMT -5
I wouldn't describe it as old-fashioned. I would say that it is rare, and it is rare because it is very difficult to execute well. Most people tend to focus on the two setters, but the key to a successful true 6-2 is having 6 exceptional hitters and two comparable setters within that group. That is exactly what Cuba when they were the best team in the world, and really, one of the only successful examples of a true 6-2. It is rare but IMO Stanford and Minnesota both ran successful 6-2s where the setter both set and hit. I loved watching all three of those teams. As I said, I don't want Robyn to run one bc 5-1s seem more successful and, with so many subs in NCAA now, I don't see a good reason to go with anything but a 5-1, unless maybe your setter can't block. Both setters have to hit in order to be a true 6-2. A setter never subs in. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 0:42:42 GMT -5
It is rare but IMO Stanford and Minnesota both ran successful 6-2s where the setter both set and hit. I loved watching all three of those teams. As I said, I don't want Robyn to run one bc 5-1s seem more successful and, with so many subs in NCAA now, I don't see a good reason to go with anything but a 5-1, unless maybe your setter can't block. Both setters have to hit in order to be a true 6-2. I know. I like watching those teams, but agree they're rare. And? |
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 6, 2019 0:44:20 GMT -5
Both setters have to hit in order to be a true 6-2. I know. I like watching those teams, but agree they're rare. And? You typed setter, not setters, in your post. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 0:45:28 GMT -5
I know. I like watching those teams, but agree they're rare. And? You typed setter, not setters, in your post. Typo. I also wrote: The only 6-2 I like is the old-fashioned kind where both setters play all-around and hit in the front/set in the back
ETA: Both Stanford and Minnesota ran true 6-2s at one point. For Stanford, Lisa Sharpley and Carrie Wendell were the setters. I can't remember who were Minnesota's setters but I think it was around the same time as Gentil was libero. |
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Post by kokyu on Nov 6, 2019 0:54:25 GMT -5
Choy would be starting right now in a 5-1 for at least these top ten teams:
1. Texas
3. Baylor
6. Minnesota
7. Nebraska
Profoundly disappointing to see personal identity politics supersede us being ranked top five and making a final four + run.
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 6, 2019 0:54:26 GMT -5
You typed setter, not setters, in your post. Typo. I also wrote: The only 6-2 I like is the old-fashioned kind where both setters play all-around and hit in the front/set in the back
Refresh my memory, which Stanford and Minnesota teams are you referring to? |
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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 0:57:11 GMT -5
Typo. I also wrote: The only 6-2 I like is the old-fashioned kind where both setters play all-around and hit in the front/set in the back
I understand, but that was a different post than the one that had the reference to Stanford and Minnesota. Refresh my memory, which Stanford and Minnesota teams are you referring to? So did you think I'd forgotten that in the 3 minutes between posts? A typo seems far more likely to me. I don't understand why you said that if you knew that I understood how it worked. Please explain the point bc I'm still missing it. Lisa Sharpley and Carrie Wendell ran it for Stanford. I'm blanking on the Minnesota players. See above post. Here's Stanford Minnesota: |
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 6, 2019 1:34:41 GMT -5
I understand, but that was a different post than the one that had the reference to Stanford and Minnesota. Refresh my memory, which Stanford and Minnesota teams are you referring to? So did you think I'd forgotten that in the 3 minutes between posts? A typo seems far more likely to me. I don't understand why you said that if you knew that I understood how it worked. Please explain the point bc I'm still missing it. Lisa Sharpley and Carrie Wendell ran it for Stanford. I'm blanking on the Minnesota players. See above post. Here's Stanford Minnesota: Stanford for sure. Obviously, Minnesota could not have run a true 6-2 since Gentil was the libero. |
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Post by kolohekeiki on Nov 6, 2019 1:35:55 GMT -5
Hoping for a transfer setter with D1 experience (eg Saige, Akeo) or a setter with international experience I'd like that too but I doubt either of the setters you mentioned will want to transfer. Both are the only setter in a 5-1. I guess if Utah or Pittsburgh have a top-notch setter coming in but I haven't heard anything about that for Utah. I don't follow Pitt's recruiting so I have no idea who they have coming in. Lexis Akeo actually was not penciled in as the starter this season. She was suppose to be the back-up setter, but their to-be starting setter went down with an ACL injury right before the season started, throwing Lexis into the starting role. Not sure what will happen next season with their starting setter returning with Lexis, after her successful freshman season. |
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Post by baytree on Nov 6, 2019 2:07:19 GMT -5
I'd like that too but I doubt either of the setters you mentioned will want to transfer. Both are the only setter in a 5-1. I guess if Utah or Pittsburgh have a top-notch setter coming in but I haven't heard anything about that for Utah. I don't follow Pitt's recruiting so I have no idea who they have coming in. Lexis Akeo actually was not penciled in as the starter this season. She was suppose to be the back-up setter, but their to-be starting setter went down with an ACL injury right before the season started, throwing Lexis into the starting role. Not sure what will happen next season with their starting setter returning with Lexis, after her successful freshman season. Thanks. Fischer probably isn't sure either. Good problem for him to have. I'm not sure if Akeo will want to leave but good setters from some teams probably will. I hope Hawaii can get one. |
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Post by Pipe Attack on Nov 6, 2019 5:03:15 GMT -5
I understand, but that was a different post than the one that had the reference to Stanford and Minnesota. Refresh my memory, which Stanford and Minnesota teams are you referring to? So did you think I'd forgotten that in the 3 minutes between posts? A typo seems far more likely to me. I don't understand why you said that if you knew that I understood how it worked. Please explain the point bc I'm still missing it. Lisa Sharpley and Carrie Wendell ran it for Stanford. I'm blanking on the Minnesota players. See above post. Here's Stanford Minnesota: Interesting 6-2 discussion in a Hawaii recruiting thread. 2004 Minnesota ran that 6-2 with Kelly Bowman and Lindsey Taatjes as setters/hitters. As far as Hawai’i girls returning to set. Don’t see it happening. Akeo just arrived at Pitt. Successful there. Sister also attended. Torres just got the starting spot at Utah and is also doing relatively well. The only reason Choy came back was probably because she graduated from Utah early. |
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