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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Sept 30, 2021 17:18:47 GMT -5
I think part of the criteria was that she was on a bad team. She's barely had any minutes on the court at Nebraska and you think she'd be ready to come home? Stranger things have happened. Other than not being 6'3" I'm not convinced there are any areas where Shaff is better than Orr. Obviously my biased opinion and I'm not saying Shaff isn't a good setter. I just think Orr is better. You know what's definitely better about Shaffmaster? She wants to be a Gopher. No arguments there!
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Sept 30, 2021 19:02:29 GMT -5
I think part of the criteria was that she was on a bad team. She's barely had any minutes on the court at Nebraska and you think she'd be ready to come home? Stranger things have happened. Other than not being 6'3" I'm not convinced there are any areas where Shaff is better than Orr. Obviously my biased opinion and I'm not saying Shaff isn't a good setter. I just think Orr is better. Either, OR. Yeah, she probably wouldn't want to come here to sit behind Shaffmaster either. Not sure if Hames comes back for a 5th year next year either.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Sept 30, 2021 20:30:20 GMT -5
I think part of the criteria was that she was on a bad team. She's barely had any minutes on the court at Nebraska and you think she'd be ready to come home? Stranger things have happened. Other than not being 6'3" I'm not convinced there are any areas where Shaff is better than Orr. Obviously my biased opinion and I'm not saying Shaff isn't a good setter. I just think Orr is better. Either, OR. Yeah, she probably wouldn't want to come here to sit behind Shaffmaster either. Not sure if Hames comes back for a 5th year next year either. Hames coming back could be…problematic.
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Post by gophsstudent on Sept 30, 2021 23:20:28 GMT -5
Does anyone think Crowl will ever get serious playing time at Minnesota? Samedy and Miyabe will be gone next year, but you have to imagine Landfair, Wenaas, and Wucherer will be the 3 main hitters, not sure who but I’m sure one will shift to RS.
Don’t know much about Julia Hanson or Schnichels but they are coming in soon as well,
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Sept 30, 2021 23:43:44 GMT -5
Does anyone think Crowl will ever get serious playing time at Minnesota? Samedy and Miyabe will be gone next year, but you have to imagine Landfair, Wenaas, and Wucherer will be the 3 main hitters, not sure who but I’m sure one will shift to RS. Don’t know much about Julia Hanson or Schnichels but they are coming in soon as well, I wouldn't discount a 6'4" lefty from being able to carve out a space for herself. Hanson comes in the same time as Wucherer and Schnichels is the year after. I'm predicting Julia will win Ms. Baden this year and Sydney is a strong candidate to win it next year.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 1, 2021 9:12:03 GMT -5
Does anyone think Crowl will ever get serious playing time at Minnesota? Samedy and Miyabe will be gone next year, but you have to imagine Landfair, Wenaas, and Wucherer will be the 3 main hitters, not sure who but I’m sure one will shift to RS. Don’t know much about Julia Hanson or Schnichels but they are coming in soon as well, I can imagine Crowl playing right side next year. It wouldn't be that wild to for Wucherer to not see significant playing time in her freshman year, despite likely being a top-five recruit. Same as Wenaas. But I too wonder what that will look like in the next few years. As someone else mentioned, a 6-4 lefty could do some damage on the right side. My biggest concern is that if Crowl ends up being the best option on the right (I've mentioned many times on this forum that I could see Landfair getting moved to the right as some point), that Wucherer doesn't look elsewhere...considering that would result in her not really playing until junior year.
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Post by courtwatchers on Oct 1, 2021 9:23:47 GMT -5
I never saw any of our incoming Freshman until the scrimmage this year. Crowl reminded me a little bit of Adrianna Nora who this year was the UAB beach volleyball assistant coach. Adrianna had transferred back to her home state and saw some decent playing time as a Gopher.
Gray reminds me of our dear Sophie Beckley who was well liked by both the players and fans. She saw a little playing time during her entire time as a Gopher player. Fortunately, she was also able to continue her volleyball career and this year played with North Florida in their beach program.
Glenn took over that scrimmage like she was ready and wanted a starting position on this season's team. IMO I can see a little of Alyssa Goehner's game in her. Natalie has shown a lot of potential. Unfortunately, the sport in TOP D1 teams has gotten a lot taller. With the addition of Wucherer at OH and the return of CC and Kilkelly, it appears it will limit her playing time next season too.
As always it will come down to what these players want to get out of the sport during their entire time while attending college.
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Post by JHAM on Oct 1, 2021 9:30:52 GMT -5
I don't spend much time speculating about who will be playing and who won't be and if that is a satisfactory situation for incoming and returning players. As someone had mentioned it really depends on what a player wants to get out of a program and their educational aspirations. I find it interesting that MN fans are talking about this as an issue when Nebraska continues to pull down top recruits every year, now that is a situation where some very talented players may not see any court time.
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Post by mnsports255 on Oct 1, 2021 9:45:10 GMT -5
Does anyone think Crowl will ever get serious playing time at Minnesota? Samedy and Miyabe will be gone next year, but you have to imagine Landfair, Wenaas, and Wucherer will be the 3 main hitters, not sure who but I’m sure one will shift to RS. Don’t know much about Julia Hanson or Schnichels but they are coming in soon as well, It wouldn't be that wild to for Wucherer to not see significant playing time in her freshman year, despite likely being a top-five recruit. Same as Wenaas. Love ya zero rotation, but yes it would be. Wucherer’s about as sure of a bet to win an outside spot next year, even in a gym where nothing is guaranteed. Wenaas and Wucherer are definitely the two left sides next year granted they are healthy with Landfair likely at opposite unless Crowl or Glenn somehow accelerate their development in such an enormous way they force their way into that opposite spot. Now the real story here is having someone as talented as Julia Hanson on the roster likely behind Wenaas and Wucherer for what, 3 years? Good problem to have, but that girl is a baller.
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Oct 1, 2021 10:03:31 GMT -5
I'm not concerned about getting these players playing time. With concussion protocol, injuries and viruses, the players will get playing time, some more than others. I think its a good thing that an injured player can have more time to recover and come back more gradually like Landfair. I notice the Hugh is more likely to give the players a sit down because he has top talent on the bench. I think this is what we will see in the future with these pin hitters.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 1, 2021 10:17:14 GMT -5
I'm not concerned about getting these players playing time. With concussion protocol, injuries and viruses, the players will get playing time, some more than others. I think its a good thing that an injured player can have more time to recover and come back more gradually like Landfair. I notice the Hugh is more likely to give the players a sit down because he has top talent on the bench. I think this is what we will see in the future with these pin hitters. Yes from Hugh's perspective, being well socked is a great problem to have. You just have to have players that are content waiting and earning their turn.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Oct 1, 2021 11:09:32 GMT -5
It wouldn't be that wild to for Wucherer to not see significant playing time in her freshman year, despite likely being a top-five recruit. Same as Wenaas. Love ya zero rotation, but yes it would be. Wucherer’s about as sure of a bet to win an outside spot next year, even in a gym where nothing is guaranteed.
Wenaas and Wucherer are definitely the two left sides next year granted they are healthy with Landfair likely at opposite unless Crowl or Glenn somehow accelerate their development in such an enormous way they force their way into that opposite spot. Now the real story here is having someone as talented as Julia Hanson on the roster likely behind Wenaas and Wucherer for what, 3 years? Good problem to have, but that girl is a baller. I'm not convinced, but would certainly not be shocked if that were true. Wucherer will have to come onto campus READY. I'm happy to be wrong, and care most about having the best nucleus of players on the court. I should also concede that I haven't seen a TON of tape on Wucherer, but a bit. She's got superstar potential no doubt. I also wonder if Hugh will run into scholarship issues in a couple years if players like Wenaas, Landfair, and Shaffmaster want to use their Covid/5th year. From my understanding, that was a conversation had with Rollins, and how she didn't really want to leave MN, but knowing she had two years of eligibility remaining, thought she might fit better on a team that could really use her for that time (and would have scholarship available). Wouldn't be surprised if Crowl is redshirted this year, and if Landfair/Wenaas only play four years, Crowl might have two years of potential playing time after Landfair/Wenaas graduate and Wucherer/(Hanson?) are on the left. I love thinking about this stuff especially when the 'problem' boils down to "where are these amazing players gonna fit?"\ PS--I've watched a little bit of Julia Hanson and she's a high flyer. Seems undersized. Do folks think she'll be a factor as a front for starter during her time at MN?
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Post by gophsstudent on Oct 5, 2021 23:17:15 GMT -5
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Post by gophervbfan on Oct 6, 2021 0:18:46 GMT -5
Julia Hanson, Natalie Glenn, Alyssa Goehner and Hailey Cowles all have a couple of things in common.
They all have been listed at 5'10".
They were all outside hitters in high school.
That is a 'difficult' height to be an outside hitter for an upper level B1G team.
Most likely position is DS with an occasional back row attack.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 6, 2021 0:37:25 GMT -5
Julia Hanson, Natalie Glenn, Alyssa Goehner and Hailey Cowles all have a couple of things in common. They all have been listed at 5'10". They were all outside hitters in high school. That is a 'difficult' height to be an outside hitter for an upper level B1G team. Most likely position is DS with an occasional back row attack. Well all of these players except one seem like easy calls to be Minnesota recruits regardless if they start or not. It's probably not very difficult to get talented locals that aren't quite the blue chip recruits that the other elite programs are begging to commit to them (of which Hanson, Goehner and Cowles are) to accept a scholarship to play at an elite school where a bunch of their high school friends are likely attending and family can go watch. OTOH, Natalie Glenn going to Minnesota to ride the bench seems like an odd choice given the way Minnesota recruits, but perhaps she tired of the Texas weather and wanted some freezing temps in her life?
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