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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 9:38:24 GMT -5
Gophers use the back-row attack instead of middles because Samedy is such a force there (and, sometimes, Wenaas)? So this holds the opposing middle blockers honest, instead of allowing them to cheat to the pins, the same way? Nope. D balls are very hard to block. Especially when Samedy is the one hitting them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 9:42:42 GMT -5
Appiani decommitted shortly after Laney Choboy committed. Coincidence? I think not. I get kind of seeing the writing on the wall, but you’re gonna have to compete for a starting spot on any team at this level. Maybe it just wasn’t as good a fit as she initially thought Also having to come to a far-away state (far away from family/friends) in the middle of covid, I think class was all virtual in fall 2020, not sure how much they were practicing? Etc. Could be very isolating, very stressful, and so on. Not a great situation for a true freshman.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 9:43:50 GMT -5
So this holds the opposing middle blockers honest, instead of allowing them to cheat to the pins, the same way? Nope. D balls are very hard to block. Especially when Samedy is the one hitting them. I'm not commenting on the offensive effectiveness of the back-row attacks. I don't think Samedy is as effective back row as front row, but both her and Wenaas have definitely hit for kills out of the back. I was commenting on the ability to hold the opposing middle blockers, as I said.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 9:51:49 GMT -5
D balls are very hard to block. Especially when Samedy is the one hitting them. I'm not commenting on the offensive effectiveness of the back-row attacks. I don't think Samedy is as effective back row as front row, but both her and Wenaas have definitely hit for kills out of the back. I was commenting on the ability to hold the opposing middle blockers, as I said. oh lord he’s back to his why they shouldn’t set Samedy out of the back row.
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 7, 2021 10:12:17 GMT -5
I'm not commenting on the offensive effectiveness of the back-row attacks. I don't think Samedy is as effective back row as front row, but both her and Wenaas have definitely hit for kills out of the back. I was commenting on the ability to hold the opposing middle blockers, as I said. oh lord he’s back to his why they shouldn’t set Samedy out of the back row. the funny part of this is that Samedy is probably MORE effective out of back than out of front. She and Shaff have a much more consistent connection on that and she keeps the ball in front of her better (and leaps to it more)
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 7, 2021 11:23:50 GMT -5
Appiani decommitted shortly after Laney Choboy committed. Coincidence? I think not. I think you meant Mandi Morioka? She decommitted from the Gophers right after Choboy committed and just signed with Penn State recently. But I agree with the Wisconsin's libero transfer thing. Cannot Wisco recruit a freshman libero? It seems odd. Yes, I was thinking of Mandi Morioka - my bad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 11:41:25 GMT -5
oh lord he’s back to his why they shouldn’t set Samedy out of the back row. the funny part of this is that Samedy is probably MORE effective out of back than out of front. She and Shaff have a much more consistent connection on that and she keeps the ball in front of her better (and leaps to it more) Samedy is effective from anywhere but probably the left pin (which she made strides at this season!) Her back row attack is very effective because she has more room to work with. Couple that with her jump, range and the way Shaffmaster just lays it up there for her and it’s pretty devastating. I mean, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen her blocked on that play multiple times in a match? Let alone dug unless she has to resort to keeping it in play.
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Post by courtwatchers on Dec 7, 2021 11:48:27 GMT -5
Hugh needs to find a way to keep these DS/L recruits here at Minnesota. I for one don't believe it was because they all wanted to be a starting Libero. No facts to back this up just my own personal belief. I am finding it very ironic that it keeps happening in that one position. It is very very very disheartening to hear, if Appiani is truly going to Wisconsin, and Mioroka has committed to Penn State.
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Post by snickers on Dec 7, 2021 12:17:11 GMT -5
Hugh needs to find a way to keep these DS/L recruits here at Minnesota. I for one don't believe it was because they all wanted to be a starting Libero. No facts to back this up just my own personal belief. I am finding it very ironic that it keeps happening in that one position. It is very very very disheartening to hear, if Appiani is truly going to Wisconsin, and Mioroka has committed to Penn State. There will always be a lot of turnover in the DS ranks. 98% don't get scholarships. And if you really want to play, and you are third or fourth string, you will look elsewhere. Then there are players like Lauren Litzou (sp?) who were fine not playing and were more interested in focusing on school.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 7, 2021 12:19:32 GMT -5
the funny part of this is that Samedy is probably MORE effective out of back than out of front. She and Shaff have a much more consistent connection on that and she keeps the ball in front of her better (and leaps to it more) Samedy is effective from anywhere but probably the left pin (which she made strides at this season!) Her back row attack is very effective because she has more room to work with. Couple that with her jump, range and the way Shaffmaster just lays it up there for her and it’s pretty devastating. I mean, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen her blocked on that play multiple times in a match? Let alone dug unless she has to resort to keeping it in play. I would argue that she's pretty effective from the left pin but I will admit I'm using the eye test and selective memory on that one.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Dec 7, 2021 14:37:27 GMT -5
I'll be amazed if Natalie Glenn stays.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 7, 2021 14:51:12 GMT -5
I'll be amazed if Natalie Glenn stays. I sure hope she stays, I think there is a ton of untapped potential there. It's going to be interesting next year; even if the Gophers were to move to a 6-2, there is still one hitter that's fighting to get on the court.
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Post by courtwatchers on Dec 7, 2021 15:21:03 GMT -5
Hugh needs to find a way to keep these DS/L recruits here at Minnesota. I for one don't believe it was because they all wanted to be a starting Libero. No facts to back this up just my own personal belief. I am finding it very ironic that it keeps happening in that one position. It is very very very disheartening to hear, if Appiani is truly going to Wisconsin, and Mioroka has committed to Penn State. There will always be a lot of turnover in the DS ranks. 98% don't get scholarships. And if you really want to play, and you are third or fourth string, you will look elsewhere. Then there are players like Lauren Litzou (sp?) who were fine not playing and were more interested in focusing on school. Well it's been amazing because we surely have had our share of turnover at that position here at Minnesota in the last 3-4 years.
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Post by mplssetter on Dec 7, 2021 18:22:07 GMT -5
The point is what do you need from a DS? To be good enough to be impactful. What does Hugh offer his DS? I suspect, very little (of his attention, of exposure, and in addition no scholarship). These girls are ambitious athletes and smart young women. Hugh can work his magic with words, but quickly (lately, very quickly) they realize exactly what is going on, that is Minnesota volleyball has a culture that does not recognize the DS position, and is a conscious choice. And it is probably fine - otherwise McCutcheon wouldn't be one of the best coaches out there. But let's not pretend we are surprised of the DS turnover at Minnesota! Now, let's hope for a fine match on Thursday! Go Gophers! You probably shouldn't be making assumptions about the program as an outsider. Kilkelly is the current DS and gets tons of playing time and plenty of praise (see the most recent presser). Barnes received plenty of playing time as a DS. If you want to argue that Hugh doesn't usually use more than 1 DS, then I think that's a valid argument.
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 7, 2021 18:24:40 GMT -5
The point is what do you need from a DS? To be good enough to be impactful. What does Hugh offer his DS? I suspect, very little (of his attention, of exposure, and in addition no scholarship). These girls are ambitious athletes and smart young women. Hugh can work his magic with words, but quickly (lately, very quickly) they realize exactly what is going on, that is Minnesota volleyball has a culture that does not recognize the DS position, and is a conscious choice. And it is probably fine - otherwise McCutcheon wouldn't be one of the best coaches out there. But let's not pretend we are surprised of the DS turnover at Minnesota! Now, let's hope for a fine match on Thursday! Go Gophers! please don’t present your conjecture as fact
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