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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 20:47:22 GMT -5
imo, too much has been said already re. Hugh, DSs liberos, Barnes, McGraw & Glenn let's listen to Hugh: His perspective on the development of student athletes is required listening for those of us in the cheap seats. Some of these athletes have grown up believing in a certain destiny. If you see yourself as a 5.5 rotation libero are you going to be satisfied playing 3 as a DS? p.s. conjecture about Natalie Glenn vis a vis body language or bailing is not surprising, but to me anyway, in poor taste. She reminds me of Jenaisa Moore. I have no idea what Moore's role was as an underclassman but she is lighting it up for OSU as a junior. We all need to relisten to Hugh's presser and take some deep breaths one of your finest posts 👏🏼👏🏼
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 8, 2021 20:51:39 GMT -5
We all need to relisten to Hugh's presser and take some deep breaths Would it be possible to maybe someday use a microphone for the questions too?
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Post by courtwatchers on Dec 8, 2021 23:07:54 GMT -5
We all need to relisten to Hugh's presser and take some deep breaths Would it be possible to maybe someday use a microphone for the questions too? Or get Hugh to repeast the question before answering it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 9:17:17 GMT -5
You’re an ass. That’s what it is. In this thread, we learn that unless you enthusiastically support the accepted groupthink, you are an "ass". 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 9:19:38 GMT -5
Some of these athletes have grown up believing in a certain destiny. If you see yourself as a 5.5 rotation libero are you going to be satisfied playing 3 as a DS? Correct. And if you know you're not going to beat out your teammate, who is simply better than you are, you might consider transferring out. Just would hope that if you do, you will do the honorable and respectful thing of not transferring to another Big Ten school to compete against us .... let alone our arch-rivals. 🙄
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 9, 2021 10:02:08 GMT -5
You’re an ass. That’s what it is. In this thread, we learn that unless you enthusiastically support the accepted groupthink, you are an "ass". 🤣 nope, it’s definitely your rhetoric. I agree with you often but not the way you type it out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 10:05:46 GMT -5
I agree with you often but not the way you type it out. That is your right. But I don't agree that I've said anything that can validly be taken as offensive. I've not used vulgar language at all and I haven't been "mean" in any reasonable sense. I'm simply calling it out, for how I think it actually is.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Dec 9, 2021 10:44:58 GMT -5
I agree with you often but not the way you type it out. That is your right. But I don't agree that I've said anything that can validly be taken as offensive. I've not used vulgar language at all and I haven't been "mean" in any reasonable sense. I'm simply calling it out, for how I think it actually is. Again though, it's not what you say but how you say it. When I read what you posted it came across as condescending and belittling. "Two swings two misses"--- condescending "What a silly and weak excuse--I'm surprised you bought it."--- belittling It may not have been intended as such but that's the way it read to me and apparently others on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2021 11:37:45 GMT -5
Fair enough. This is just your's and others' opinion, nothing at all objective. I disagree.
That said, it is far past time for me to stop hijacking the thread. This discussion shouldn't have taken place in the "future of Minnesota" thread in the first place. Back to that topic, please.
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Post by douglass9 on Dec 10, 2021 17:00:34 GMT -5
They said during the Baylor match that Miyabe reached out to the gophers because she wanted to play and be developed by Hugh. Apparently they get a lot of tapes and they joked about picking her out. Every volleyball roster has a bunch of 6' plus players. It takes a good coaching staff to make them above average. (there are plenty of good coaching staffs besides Minnesota) Top players come here because of the environment which includes the fans. Not blog fans but Pav fans. 60% standing ovation for the senior Wisconsin players when introduced. Even the student section has good fun with the servers.
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Post by haze on Dec 11, 2021 22:43:58 GMT -5
What is everyone's thoughts on Hugh. Minnesota been good under Jim but I feel like they would be a perennial final 4 team but Nebraska has stayed there and I think Wisconsin has surpassed Minnesota in that department.
I started following college and Minnesota only because McCutcheon and I love college volleyball but it seems like Minnesota had bad losses at the end of every year. This year They lose because they were just overpowered by Wisconsin.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 22:49:11 GMT -5
What is everyone's thoughts on Hugh. Minnesota been good under Jim but I feel like they would be a perennial final 4 team but Nebraska has stayed there and I think Wisconsin has surpassed Minnesota in that department. I started following college and Minnesota only because McCutcheon and I love college volleyball but it seems like Minnesota had bad losses at the end of every year. This year They lose because they were just overpowered by Wisconsin. they were overpowered by Wisconsin because Wisconsin was a better team overall. prior to Hugh, we made the final 4 what, 3 times in history? Hugh’s done that since 2015. It’s not like it’s easy, chances were blown (2015, 2018 we should’ve done better, 2016 got crushed by Stanford’s late peak). I think he’s done great, will continue to do great, and the Gophers are already a staple program. The first championship is the hardest one to get. I’m sure he sees things he wishes he had done better, as does every coach…we’ll see how often Wisconsin is in the F4 with their senior class gone.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Dec 11, 2021 22:49:50 GMT -5
What is everyone's thoughts on Hugh. Minnesota been good under Jim but I feel like they would be a perennial final 4 team but Nebraska has stayed there and I think Wisconsin has surpassed Minnesota in that department. I started following college and Minnesota only because McCutcheon and I love college volleyball but it seems like Minnesota had bad losses at the end of every year. This year They lose because they were just overpowered by Wisconsin. Players will continue to come to MN because of Hugh. If they have international aspirations, that is. The development opportunitees are unmatched.
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 11, 2021 22:52:21 GMT -5
Not at all a bad loss to Wisconsin. Quite the contrary. Minnesota upset Baylor, who we lost to in the preaseason, and then played hard, not their best but well, against Wisconsin in the end. I thought Minnesota had a good finish to a difficult year. Hugh does a great job - better with freshman recruits than with upperclass transfers, in my opinion but good with both. I don't know who Jim is. I look forward to see what he does in the post Samedy era.
I look forward to seeing what the Gophers can accomplish the next couple of years. I think Shaffmaster is just starting to take the reigns. Some strong leadership from her and Wenass could help the team take it to the next level. Go Gophers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2021 22:54:33 GMT -5
Not at all a bad loss to Wisconsin. Quite the contrary. Minnesota upset Baylor, who we lost to in the preaseason, and then played hard, not their best but well, against Wisconsin in the end. I thought Minnesota had a good finish to a difficult year. Hugh does a great job - better with freshman recruits than with upperclass transfers, in my opinion but good with both. I don't know who Jim is. I look forward to see what he does in the post Samedy era. I look forward to seeing what the Gophers can accomplish the next couple of years. I think Shaffmaster is just starting to take the reigns. Some strong leadership from her and Wenass could help the team take it to the next level. Go Gophers. I know MN fans love to sulk, but I feel pretty good about returning Shaff, Wenaas, McGraw, Kilkelly & a healthy Landfair. In addition to some stellar recruits.
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