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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 14:26:42 GMT -5
Exactly—Barnes is not a good example of this. Barnes left because she thought CC was Hugh’s favorite and that she had no chance at overtaking her for libero if Hugh was the coach. Her goal was to play for a national championship team as the starting libero, and she didn’t think that was possible at Minnesota, hence the departure. It is incorrect, however, to say that she was not paid enough attention or valued at Minnesota. She played almost every set as soon as she got to MN as a freshman over other DSs who had been there for longer and Hugh often talked about how much of a gamer she was. If DS had been her goal, I don’t think she would have left. I can be wrong... but I am giving you my opinion. Has Kilkelly seen being interviewed? Look at Purdue and Nebraska... REGULARLY the DSes get to be interviewed for press events. Maybe Kilkelly is a more quiet person and she wouldn't want to do those things. There is a definite difference in the international playing model (Karch and company) who ON AIR talk about how they don't want to use DSes and I get that vibe from Minnesota. As a fan of multiple BIG teams, if I were a DS/L, I would gravitate toward teams that play, talk about, and value the DS not being a step down from the Libero. Think about how Shondell talks about his DSes... he many times treats them as equals in his words in interviews and press. Look at how many DSes get to play at Nebraska this season... they carry themselves in their body language as a fully equal member of the squad. What I am talking about his the press they get, the body language and (what I read as) confidence in themselves. Of course, I know nothing of what it is to be on the Minnesota squad, and I could be totally wrong... but just look back at how people talked about CC being out of the tournament. she literally just got interviewed with Miyabe last weekend lol
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 14:49:16 GMT -5
these are words out of her mouth. Therefore they're true? No person has ever spoken untrue words, before? 😂 Maybe I shouldn't be surprised you bought it, since you clearly were willing to believe whatever she told you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 14:50:41 GMT -5
Ughhhhh the coach hates me!!! His favorite is another player!
Yeahhh...that other player is better than me. I can't beat her out. But that's not the thing! It's because the coach likes her better!!
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 14:50:53 GMT -5
these are words out of her mouth. Therefore they're true? No person has ever spoken untrue words, before? 😂 Maybe I shouldn't be surprised you bought it, since you clearly were willing to believe whatever she told you. omg sigh. What I’m saying isn’t if I believe what I was told, I’m saying that’s what I was told. Believe whatever you want I really don’t care
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 14:52:08 GMT -5
I’m saying that’s what I was told. You were told a weak excuse. Of course I don't believe it, nor should anyone else.
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 14:52:10 GMT -5
Ughhhhh the coach hates me!!! His favorite is another player! Yeahhh...that other player is better than me. I can't beat her out. But that's not the thing! It's because the coach likes her better!! 😂 you give gopher fans such a bad name. I prefer CC to Barnes as well, but this behavior is really unnecessary
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 14:54:35 GMT -5
😂
Calling out an excuse for what it is, for a player that left us for our arch-rival (nevermind the in-conference transfer to compete against us), gives us a bad name?
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Post by dc on Dec 8, 2021 14:57:17 GMT -5
Ughhhhh the coach hates me!!! His favorite is another player! Yeahhh...that other player is better than me. I can't beat her out. But that's not the thing! It's because the coach likes her better!! 😂 you give gopher fans such a bad name. I prefer CC to Barnes as well, but this behavior is really unnecessary His schtick is unpleasantness.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 14:59:24 GMT -5
Is it really unpleasant? Why? I don't get that, honestly. I'm not being vulgar or offensive, in the slightest.
Is it because it's women's, instead of men's? Therefore fans should be more "sensitive", or something like that? I actually think women athletes would find that offensive!
Would honestly like to know. Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 15:54:40 GMT -5
You’re an ass. That’s what it is.
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Post by volleyparent on Dec 8, 2021 16:32:08 GMT -5
I can be wrong... but I am giving you my opinion. Has Kilkelly seen being interviewed? Look at Purdue and Nebraska... REGULARLY the DSes get to be interviewed for press events. Maybe Kilkelly is a more quiet person and she wouldn't want to do those things. There is a definite difference in the international playing model (Karch and company) who ON AIR talk about how they don't want to use DSes and I get that vibe from Minnesota. As a fan of multiple BIG teams, if I were a DS/L, I would gravitate toward teams that play, talk about, and value the DS not being a step down from the Libero. Think about how Shondell talks about his DSes... he many times treats them as equals in his words in interviews and press. Look at how many DSes get to play at Nebraska this season... they carry themselves in their body language as a fully equal member of the squad. What I am talking about his the press they get, the body language and (what I read as) confidence in themselves. Of course, I know nothing of what it is to be on the Minnesota squad, and I could be totally wrong... but just look back at how people talked about CC being out of the tournament. she literally just got interviewed with Miyabe last weekend lol Was that when she was LIBERO?
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 8, 2021 16:43:14 GMT -5
she literally just got interviewed with Miyabe last weekend lol Was that when she was LIBERO? Yes, and after she played one of her best matches as a Gopher. Wenaas got the post-match interview on espn+, so seeing Kilkelly for the press conference and hearing the praise Hugh heaped on her were good to see. I think it's the availability of open positions that might impact a recruits decision somewhat. It's definitely not the narrative of undervaluing defense being painted here by a few outsiders.
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Post by mcmike on Dec 8, 2021 17:35:40 GMT -5
imo, too much has been said already re. Hugh, DSs liberos, Barnes, McGraw & Glenn
let's listen to Hugh:
His perspective on the development of student athletes is required listening for those of us in the cheap seats.
Some of these athletes have grown up believing in a certain destiny. If you see yourself as a 5.5 rotation libero are you going to be satisfied playing 3 as a DS?
p.s. conjecture about Natalie Glenn vis a vis body language or bailing is not surprising, but to me anyway, in poor taste. She reminds me of Jenaisa Moore. I have no idea what Moore's role was as an underclassman but she is lighting it up for OSU as a junior.
We all need to relisten to Hugh's presser and take some deep breaths
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Post by vollem on Dec 8, 2021 19:40:05 GMT -5
plz don’t judge us Minnesota fans on the whole, those two are cray cray nah I’m not don’t worry. I like most minny fans. They are overall really reasonable and nice Look, every fandom's got at least one. You, being enemy #1 to like 2+ of the most notorious on the board, probably can tell lmao
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Post by vollem on Dec 8, 2021 19:44:47 GMT -5
I can't tell why this is being so harped on. Unless you have a direct in, I wouldn't project much.
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