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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 13:06:38 GMT -5
Correct. The poster is just a very bitter person, at the moment, because their top SEC program has been put back in its correct place by a middling Big Ten program. Which goes to show that the results from this spring should be taken with a rather large grain of salt. Correct. Good comments Reallly hope you're not shading Kentucky here because wheeeeew chile... he’s absolutely shading Kentucky lol but he’s just jealous we have a title and his “big girl team” Minnesota still doesn’t :/
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 13:12:05 GMT -5
Reallly hope you're not shading Kentucky here because wheeeeew chile... he’s absolutely shading Kentucky lol but he’s just jealous we have a title and his “big girl team” Minnesota still doesn’t :/ plz don’t judge us Minnesota fans on the whole, those two are cray cray
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 13:19:19 GMT -5
he’s absolutely shading Kentucky lol but he’s just jealous we have a title and his “big girl team” Minnesota still doesn’t :/ plz don’t judge us Minnesota fans on the whole, those two are cray cray nah I’m not don’t worry. I like most minny fans. They are overall really reasonable and nice
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Post by courtwatchers on Dec 8, 2021 13:52:28 GMT -5
It was a blessing we had Kilkelly to turn to when CC could not play in post season. And to think that she was an OH at Shakopee High School who did some setting those years, when called upon. Her DS and Libero play has mostly come about at the U of MN. HER PASSING WAS QUITE OFTEN SPOT ON during these last two matches.
But in reality, if it wasn't for her talent we had nobody waiting in the wings to step up and into this particular post season situation. GLenn and Gray were just not ready....or Hugh would have gone to them more often during the season and possibly played them this past weekend. I just feel it is not an ideal situation to be in any time of the season.
Yes Hugh likes 6R OH's and when you added a 6R Opp the need became even less in the past few years. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out next season.
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Post by volleyparent on Dec 8, 2021 13:54:19 GMT -5
What do you mean by "Minnesota isn't going to make me a priority"? You used Barnes as an example of that, which doesn't make sense. Please explain. Exactly—Barnes is not a good example of this. Barnes left because she thought CC was Hugh’s favorite and that she had no chance at overtaking her for libero if Hugh was the coach. Her goal was to play for a national championship team as the starting libero, and she didn’t think that was possible at Minnesota, hence the departure. It is incorrect, however, to say that she was not paid enough attention or valued at Minnesota. She played almost every set as soon as she got to MN as a freshman over other DSs who had been there for longer and Hugh often talked about how much of a gamer she was. If DS had been her goal, I don’t think she would have left. I can be wrong... but I am giving you my opinion. Has Kilkelly seen being interviewed? Look at Purdue and Nebraska... REGULARLY the DSes get to be interviewed for press events. Maybe Kilkelly is a more quiet person and she wouldn't want to do those things. There is a definite difference in the international playing model (Karch and company) who ON AIR talk about how they don't want to use DSes and I get that vibe from Minnesota. As a fan of multiple BIG teams, if I were a DS/L, I would gravitate toward teams that play, talk about, and value the DS not being a step down from the Libero. Think about how Shondell talks about his DSes... he many times treats them as equals in his words in interviews and press. Look at how many DSes get to play at Nebraska this season... they carry themselves in their body language as a fully equal member of the squad. What I am talking about his the press they get, the body language and (what I read as) confidence in themselves. Of course, I know nothing of what it is to be on the Minnesota squad, and I could be totally wrong... but just look back at how people talked about CC being out of the tournament.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 13:59:54 GMT -5
Reallly hope you're not shading Kentucky here because wheeeeew chile... Guess that depends on whatever the kids have decided "shade" means, at the moment. They like to invent new language whimsically, these days, as opposed to just using the perfectly good, well defined language that was already available.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 14:03:34 GMT -5
Barnes left because she thought CC was Hugh’s favorite and that she had no chance at overtaking her for libero if Hugh was the coach. What a silly and weak excuse -- I'm surprised you bought it. The truth is often far simpler. So, I'll go with that she left because she knew she couldn't beat out CC. The All-Conf honors this year would seem to confirm that. Her goal was to play for a national championship team Two swings, two misses. Hoping to see her and carpetbagger Hilley strike completely out this year. Ideally at the hands of the Gophers, but if not, then by anyone else is just as sweet.
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Dec 8, 2021 14:05:41 GMT -5
volleyparent I look back and what I read is fans being so impressed with Kilkelly. I have noticed by watching the team (not reading what posters say) that Hugh seems to prefer to have one Libero and one primary DS on his roster that get regular playing time. Playing two OH all 6 rotations is unusual for him. I can only assume that Miyabe's back court is better than the others (freshman) at this time. Since we are at the end of the season he just went with Miyabe for as long as it works - and its working. BTW, the last presser was an interview with Hugh, Miyabe and non other than Kilkelly. He usually has seniors or at least upperclassmen in interviews, there doesn't seem to be a position preference.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Dec 8, 2021 14:07:16 GMT -5
Exactly—Barnes is not a good example of this. Barnes left because she thought CC was Hugh’s favorite and that she had no chance at overtaking her for libero if Hugh was the coach. Her goal was to play for a national championship team as the starting libero, and she didn’t think that was possible at Minnesota, hence the departure. It is incorrect, however, to say that she was not paid enough attention or valued at Minnesota. She played almost every set as soon as she got to MN as a freshman over other DSs who had been there for longer and Hugh often talked about how much of a gamer she was. If DS had been her goal, I don’t think she would have left. I can be wrong... but I am giving you my opinion. Has Kilkelly seen being interviewed? Look at Purdue and Nebraska... REGULARLY the DSes get to be interviewed for press events. Maybe Kilkelly is a more quiet person and she wouldn't want to do those things. There is a definite difference in the international playing model (Karch and company) who ON AIR talk about how they don't want to use DSes and I get that vibe from Minnesota. As a fan of multiple BIG teams, if I were a DS/L, I would gravitate toward teams that play, talk about, and value the DS not being a step down from the Libero. Think about how Shondell talks about his DSes... he many times treats them as equals in his words in interviews and press. Look at how many DSes get to play at Nebraska this season... they carry themselves in their body language as a fully equal member of the squad. What I am talking about his the press they get, the body language and (what I read as) confidence in themselves. Of course, I know nothing of what it is to be on the Minnesota squad, and I could be totally wrong... but just look back at how people talked about CC being out of the tournament. This is so weird. You don't know these athletes at all. Why are you evaluating who likes their coach based off interviews and body language? You realize these players regularly interact with their coaches outside of the public eye, correct?
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Post by volleyparent on Dec 8, 2021 14:09:27 GMT -5
I can be wrong... but I am giving you my opinion. Has Kilkelly seen being interviewed? Look at Purdue and Nebraska... REGULARLY the DSes get to be interviewed for press events. Maybe Kilkelly is a more quiet person and she wouldn't want to do those things. There is a definite difference in the international playing model (Karch and company) who ON AIR talk about how they don't want to use DSes and I get that vibe from Minnesota. As a fan of multiple BIG teams, if I were a DS/L, I would gravitate toward teams that play, talk about, and value the DS not being a step down from the Libero. Think about how Shondell talks about his DSes... he many times treats them as equals in his words in interviews and press. Look at how many DSes get to play at Nebraska this season... they carry themselves in their body language as a fully equal member of the squad. What I am talking about his the press they get, the body language and (what I read as) confidence in themselves. Of course, I know nothing of what it is to be on the Minnesota squad, and I could be totally wrong... but just look back at how people talked about CC being out of the tournament. This is so weird. You don't know these athletes at all. Why are you evaluating who likes their coach based off interviews and body language? You realize these players regularly interact with their coaches outside of the public eye, correct? Recruits don’t often know… they are making judgements off of body language, words of the coach. I’m telling you my opinion. If Minnesota has a difficult time with keeping DSes, what do you think is the reason?
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Dec 8, 2021 14:13:11 GMT -5
This is so weird. You don't know these athletes at all. Why are you evaluating who likes their coach based off interviews and body language? You realize these players regularly interact with their coaches outside of the public eye, correct? Recruits don’t often know… they are making judgements off of body language, words of the coach. I’m telling you my opinion. If Minnesota has a difficult time with keeping DSes, what do you think is the reason? I personally don't think they have difficulty, so I don't think there's a reason. They've had two 6-ro hitters for the last 5 years, so the need is less for DS's. CC is incredible and she'll be replaced by Choboy who is also incredible. Recruits speak to coaches and other athletes, I'd guess they're not analyzing body language and interviews in the same way you are.
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Post by volleyparent on Dec 8, 2021 14:16:17 GMT -5
Recruits don’t often know… they are making judgements off of body language, words of the coach. I’m telling you my opinion. If Minnesota has a difficult time with keeping DSes, what do you think is the reason? I personally don't think they have difficulty, so I don't think there's a reason. They've had two 6-ro hitters for the last 5 years, so the need is less for DS's. CC is incredible and she'll be replaced by Chubby who is also incredible. Recruits speak to coaches and other athletes, I'd guess they're not analyzing body language and interviews in the same way you are. You just proved my point... they have less of a need for DSes. I never said that Minnesota DSes were not treated fairly. I do think that it is apparent that the DS role isn't valued as highly. You just said what I said. Why would a DS want to go to Minnesota based on what you said?
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Post by permagrin on Dec 8, 2021 14:18:45 GMT -5
Her goal was to play for a national championship team Two swings, two misses. Hoping to see her and carpetbagger Hilley strike completely out this year. Ideally at the hands of the Gophers, but if not, then by anyone else is just as sweet.[/quote] I dont know how you can hate on these strong young women just because they left the gophers! Dont know hilley but barnes is a great kid and i would never want less for them for any reason
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Dec 8, 2021 14:23:10 GMT -5
I personally don't think they have difficulty, so I don't think there's a reason. They've had two 6-ro hitters for the last 5 years, so the need is less for DS's. CC is incredible and she'll be replaced by Chubby who is also incredible. Recruits speak to coaches and other athletes, I'd guess they're not analyzing body language and interviews in the same way you are. You just proved my point... they have less of a need for DSes. I never said that Minnesota DSes were not treated fairly. I do think that it is apparent that the DS role isn't valued as highly. You just said what I said. Why would a DS want to go to Minnesota based on what you said? I'm not sure how you logically get from "there have been two 6-ro hitters recently" to "the DS role isn't valued highly". The notion that DS's are scouring rosters to evaluate whether programs have hitters capable of playing all around seems very misguided. All college athletes compete for playing time. If you can prove your value on the court, you can get a spot. Not sure how that calculus is any different at Nebraska or Purdue than Minnesota. It's all dependent on current personnel.
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 14:25:26 GMT -5
Barnes left because she thought CC was Hugh’s favorite and that she had no chance at overtaking her for libero if Hugh was the coach. What a silly and weak excuse -- I'm surprised you bought it. The truth is often far simpler. So, I'll go with that she left because she knew she couldn't beat out CC. The All-Conf honors this year would seem to confirm that. Her goal was to play for a national championship team Two swings, two misses. Hoping to see her and carpetbagger Hilley strike completely out this year. Ideally at the hands of the Gophers, but if not, then by anyone else is just as sweet. honey these are words out of her mouth. Not me buying anything
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