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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Nov 4, 2022 9:27:43 GMT -5
"Would it have been better for him to wait until she signed with the Gophers and then announced his new job? The "situation" Hugh has caused, is one of complete honesty regarding the near future of Gopher volleyball. He has always (as far as I know) done things the right way and this is another example of that." Right. It's called integrity. Hugh announces in the middle of the season and before signing day that he is done coaching at the end of the year = integrity Hugh signs a contract extension in December, 2021 to coach until 2025. Decides 10 months later that he doesn't want to coach anymore and announces he's leaving, leaving the program in flux about the future = that's just the way the game is played. Apparently, "integrity" is only applied in certain situations. I'm not going to begrudge Hugh for taking an opportunity that he probably didn't know existed 10 months before. And even if he did know, he applied, he waited for the outcome, and in the meantime made arrangements to shore up his immediate future and provide stability for his family. Is there a problem with that?
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 4, 2022 9:55:05 GMT -5
Hugh announces in the middle of the season and before signing day that he is done coaching at the end of the year = integrity Hugh signs a contract extension in December, 2021 to coach until 2025. Decides 10 months later that he doesn't want to coach anymore and announces he's leaving, leaving the program in flux about the future = that's just the way the game is played. Apparently, "integrity" is only applied in certain situations. I'm not going to begrudge Hugh for taking an opportunity that he probably didn't know existed 10 months before. And even if he did know, he applied, he waited for the outcome, and in the meantime made arrangements to shore up his immediate future and provide stability for his family. Is there a problem with that? You think he applied for this job? This job was obviously created just for Hugh. The only question is why.
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Post by dodger on Nov 4, 2022 9:58:09 GMT -5
Hugh never did anything special, that no other coach knew how to do. He didn't win natty's here, either. Minnesota is brutally cold, and with a few exceptions, is not the natural home of most of these high level players. The reason they came here was to win, and win big. And Hugh failed to deliver that. If that's not on the table ... then why should any high level recruit come to the frozen tundra?? At least at Wisconsin, they've clearly done it and know how to do it. At Nebraska, obviously the same. Texas .... well at least the weather is nice there. There are a plethora of gopher comments about your coach and the natty: (outcome) but you dont know your coach: he is process guy who see’s the win in bigger terms than most gopher fans. And this mentor, integrity, humane approach to coaching is a big (bigger reason) Hugh has been excellent recruiter: All previous Gopher coaches; Schluder, Hebert and now McCutcheon are from that cloth. And all the present gopher players should hope they find another coach of the same “grit”! Attached please find a little serving of who your gopher coach is and be proud of the “big win”!!💪🏽
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 4, 2022 10:09:15 GMT -5
Hugh never did anything special, that no other coach knew how to do. He didn't win natty's here, either. Minnesota is brutally cold, and with a few exceptions, is not the natural home of most of these high level players. The reason they came here was to win, and win big. And Hugh failed to deliver that. If that's not on the table ... then why should any high level recruit come to the frozen tundra?? At least at Wisconsin, they've clearly done it and know how to do it. At Nebraska, obviously the same. Texas .... well at least the weather is nice there. There are a plethora of gopher comments about your coach and the natty: (outcome) but you dont know your coach: he is process guy who see’s the win in bigger terms than most gopher fans. And this mentor, integrity, humane approach to coaching is a big (bigger reason) Hugh has been excellent recruiter: All previous Gopher coaches; Schluder, Hebert and now McCutcheon are from that cloth. And all the present gopher players should hope they find another coach of the same “grit”! Attached please find a little serving of who your gopher coach is and be proud of the “big win”!!💪🏽 Everywhere else, this type of rationalization is either called losing or disappointment. If you get lemons, make lemonade. Hugh’s approach to coaching, and to life, is to stick to fundamentals and be risk-averse. The difference between winning a Championship, and not, is a drive and energy that Hugh is personally uncomfortable with.
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Post by gophsstudent on Nov 4, 2022 10:13:16 GMT -5
The only people that I can seriously see transferring are Wenaas, Davis, Ng, and Hanson. I just don’t see the other ones at all.
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Post by craftylefty on Nov 4, 2022 10:15:07 GMT -5
We absolutely do need a great libero transfer or two in for fall 2023.
That said, I also think Wenaas would make a terrific libero, assuming that is something she would want to do (she probably doesn’t).
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Post by craftylefty on Nov 4, 2022 10:20:34 GMT -5
The only people that I can seriously see transferring are Wenaas, Davis, Ng, and Hanson. I just don’t see the other ones at all. I’d be so sad if Wenaas transferred. I still maintain that she is the best pure volleyball player on the team. No one else has such a complete skillset. I’d be surprised if Davis transferred. She’s had an uptick in playing time lately, and I’d expect she’d be a lock to start in ‘23 along with Booth, with Minatee as a backup.
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Post by mplssetter on Nov 4, 2022 10:21:11 GMT -5
To a high school recruit, I think the draw of going to a school like Nebraska with all the other top 10 recruits because you want to win a national championship is clearly more appealing than the "you'll become a better player and citizen" pitch. Not saying that's right, just how I see it.
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Post by GoGophs on Nov 4, 2022 10:26:30 GMT -5
Hugh never did anything special, that no other coach knew how to do. He didn't win natty's here, either. Minnesota is brutally cold, and with a few exceptions, is not the natural home of most of these high level players. The reason they came here was to win, and win big. And Hugh failed to deliver that. If that's not on the table ... then why should any high level recruit come to the frozen tundra?? At least at Wisconsin, they've clearly done it and know how to do it. At Nebraska, obviously the same. Texas .... well at least the weather is nice there. There are a plethora of gopher comments about your coach and the natty: (outcome) but you dont know your coach: he is process guy who see’s the win in bigger terms than most gopher fans. And this mentor, integrity, humane approach to coaching is a big (bigger reason) Hugh has been excellent recruiter: All previous Gopher coaches; Schluder, Hebert and now McCutcheon are from that cloth. And all the present gopher players should hope they find another coach of the same “grit”! Attached please find a little serving of who your gopher coach is and be proud of the “big win”!!💪🏽 Most Gopher fans know this and appreciate Hugh and the program for that exact reason. However there’s a few bad lemons out there, who are unfortunately the most vocal, that forget that and only want to win.
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Post by comet on Nov 4, 2022 10:28:05 GMT -5
This is going to be a rough few months of transition and potentially losing more players to the portal. It makes me so sad that the MN program will look very different next year.
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Post by gophsstudent on Nov 4, 2022 10:30:25 GMT -5
The only people that I can seriously see transferring are Wenaas, Davis, Ng, and Hanson. I just don’t see the other ones at all. I’d be so sad if Wenaas transferred. I still maintain that she is the best pure volleyball player on the team. No one else has such a complete skillset. I’d be surprised if Davis transferred. She’s had an uptick in playing time lately, and I’d expect she’d be a lock to start in ‘23 along with Booth, with Minatee as a backup. Oh totally agree. Just feels like she wants to go back to OH. And I really don’t see Landfair and especially not Wucherer transferring. Davis will be an interesting one - very true with the uptick recently she could be persuaded to stay.
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Nov 4, 2022 10:31:59 GMT -5
I don't understand this "risk averse" conjecture that has been repeated many times. Hugh tells his players not to look at stats and to play hard. Yes, we all want low errors but I don't think of him as being risk averse. There is evidence to the contrary, like playing three middles when the Tapps were here and changing up some of the players swings - which, btw, usually results in errors going up initially.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Nov 4, 2022 10:33:56 GMT -5
Wasn’t Choboy all in on Penn State until Russ retired? So she commits to Minnesota and now Hugh’s retiring? And now she’s going to Nebraska? Your turn, Cook. Lol no, that was Chicoine. Darn. Well, a boy can dream.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Nov 4, 2022 10:39:22 GMT -5
The only people that I can seriously see transferring are Wenaas, Davis, Ng, and Hanson. I just don’t see the other ones at all. Davis used her one-time transfer exception coming over from Ohio State. If she transfers again, she has to sit (unless she grad transfers). Unfortunately, I agree that we probably would have lost Choboy, even if McCutcheon had remained the head coach. We do need another DS/Libero as we can see this year, 3 is a minimum. If one goes down you need one on the bench. Currently we are playing two. Although, if all our pins stay at Minnesota, which I wish for, then we may not need to play two. I believe Wucherer will play all around. In fact, I would like to see that this year. I see her transferring to Wisconsin and Landfair to Texas…. Sorry Minny fans. Don’t hate y’all or the program, just a gut feeling In what universe does Wucherer transfer into Wisconsin where there's already Orzol, Franklin, Demps, and Wrobel on the left, plus Robinson and Smrek moving between middle and right?
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Nov 4, 2022 11:26:18 GMT -5
Hugh never did anything special, that no other coach knew how to do. He didn't win natty's here, either. Minnesota is brutally cold, and with a few exceptions, is not the natural home of most of these high level players. The reason they came here was to win, and win big. And Hugh failed to deliver that. If that's not on the table ... then why should any high level recruit come to the frozen tundra?? At least at Wisconsin, they've clearly done it and know how to do it. At Nebraska, obviously the same. Texas .... well at least the weather is nice there. There are a plethora of gopher comments about your coach and the natty: (outcome) but you dont know your coach: he is process guy who see’s the win in bigger terms than most gopher fans. And this mentor, integrity, humane approach to coaching is a big (bigger reason) Hugh has been excellent recruiter: All previous Gopher coaches; Schluder, Hebert and now McCutcheon are from that cloth. And all the present gopher players should hope they find another coach of the same “grit”! Attached please find a little serving of who your gopher coach is and be proud of the “big win”!!💪🏽 Link to Hugh's comments
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