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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 8, 2018 12:03:28 GMT -5
Here is how I have had Michigan ranked this year.
17 18 20 13 13 15 15 15 15 14 14
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Post by tallguy86 on Nov 8, 2018 12:26:39 GMT -5
One of my worst errors in evaluating teams this year was with Michigan. I have had them in the Top 10 for most of the year, until 2-3 weeks ago. What was I thinking? Obviously thought they were much better than they are. Next week I will still have them in Top 25, but not by much. I had Michigan early on in the 20-25 range, and then as high as 16, but they had not played anyone of significance their first 10 matches so it was more a rise through other teams ranked 16-25 losing. I also think Purdue has gotten the same unwarranted love this season and they are not a top 15 team IMO but many voters like them and I saw them ranked as high as #8 in one ballot this past week. SMH. I had Michigan ranked 17 and Purdue 18 this past week. Purdue beat PSU and Michigan beat Wisconsin and almost beat Illinois. They’re not terrible.
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Post by vbprisoner on Nov 8, 2018 12:46:03 GMT -5
I had Michigan early on in the 20-25 range, and then as high as 16, but they had not played anyone of significance their first 10 matches so it was more a rise through other teams ranked 16-25 losing. I also think Purdue has gotten the same unwarranted love this season and they are not a top 15 team IMO but many voters like them and I saw them ranked as high as #8 in one ballot this past week. SMH. I had Michigan ranked 17 and Purdue 18 this past week. Purdue beat PSU and Michigan beat Wisconsin and almost beat Illinois. They’re not terrible. No, they are good, but they are both 16-25 teams IMO. My point was many folks think they are much better than they are because they had great records going into the B1G schedule due to the fact they really did not play anyone of relevance in preseason.
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Post by hammer on Nov 8, 2018 12:46:33 GMT -5
Here is how I have had Michigan ranked this year. 17 18 20 13 13 15 15 15 15 14 14 When picking lottery numbers you cannot repeat
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Post by Cruz'n on Nov 8, 2018 15:54:13 GMT -5
One of my worst errors in evaluating teams this year was with Michigan. I have had them in the Top 10 for most of the year, until 2-3 weeks ago. What was I thinking? Obviously thought they were much better than they are. Next week I will still have them in Top 25, but not by much. I had Michigan early on in the 20-25 range, and then as high as 16, but they had not played anyone of significance their first 10 matches so it was more a rise through other teams ranked 16-25 losing. I also think Purdue has gotten the same unwarranted love this season and they are not a top 15 team IMO but many voters like them and I saw them ranked as high as #8 in one ballot this past week. SMH. I had Michigan ranked 17 and Purdue 18 this past week. My problem is that I started them too high in pre-season at #11. With their returning talent, I thought I was the only clever one who knew they were going to be super good. With the usual shuffling of teams I had higher than them, like Florida and Kentucky, I got them eventually as high as #8. Of course they hadn't played anyone noteworthy to that point, but they hadn't lost. A couple weeks ago brought them back down to earth at #18. With yet another loss to an unranked team this week, they will fall farther. If we do this again next year, I will have to try to be less stubborn with regards to my pre-season rankings, and be willing to make major changes quicker.
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Post by azvb on Nov 8, 2018 17:51:05 GMT -5
Exactly what else can BYU do? Change Conferences? Mountain West, Big West, WAC? Not a lot of options, and frankly, not better than the WCC. PAC-12 won’t take them. B1G-would they be interested? I don’t know. They scheduled a pretty tough pre season. Not much else they can do.
BYU’s football team is independent. Could their volleyball team do the same? Don’t know the rules.
BTW, I don’t think BYU is the best team in the country. My vote would go to Minnesota. But I’d put BYU in the top 4.
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Post by vbkahuna on Nov 8, 2018 18:01:18 GMT -5
Exactly what else can BYU do? Change Conferences? Mountain West, Big West, WAC? Not a lot of options, and frankly, not better than the WCC. PAC-12 won’t take them. B1G-would they be interested? I don’t know. They scheduled a pretty tough pre season. Not much else they can do. BYU’s football team is independent. Could their volleyball team do the same? Don’t know the rules. BTW, I don’t think BYU is the best team in the country. My vote would go to Minnesota. But I’d put BYU in the top 4. So why do you think BYU needs to do anything? As long as they keep winning, I suspect they will in fact get the #1 seed, regardless of RPI. The committee would be hard-pressed to drop them if they're undefeated and the fact they are the only team so far to have beaten Stanford. What's the source of your angst?
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Post by BuckysHeat on Nov 8, 2018 20:06:08 GMT -5
| Michigan | Purdue | Preseason | 21 | NR | Week 1 | 13 | 24 | Week 2 | 10 | 19 | Week 3
| 11 | 15 | Week 4
| 11 | 15 | Week 5
| 9 | 18 | Week 6
| 10 | 20 | Week 7
| 11 | 22 | Week 8
| 11 | 20 | Week 9
| 11 | 20 | Week 10 | 18 | 13 | Week 11 | 14 | 10 |
Here are my Michigan and Purdue rankings
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Post by azvb on Nov 8, 2018 20:10:39 GMT -5
Exactly what else can BYU do? Change Conferences? Mountain West, Big West, WAC? Not a lot of options, and frankly, not better than the WCC. PAC-12 won’t take them. B1G-would they be interested? I don’t know. They scheduled a pretty tough pre season. Not much else they can do. BYU’s football team is independent. Could their volleyball team do the same? Don’t know the rules. BTW, I don’t think BYU is the best team in the country. My vote would go to Minnesota. But I’d put BYU in the top 4. So why do you think BYU needs to do anything? As long as they keep winning, I suspect they will in fact get the #1 seed, regardless of RPI. The committee would be hard-pressed to drop them if they're undefeated and the fact they are the only team so far to have beaten Stanford. What's the source of your angst? My angst comes from B1G and PAC-12 posters who say BYU would never be undefeated if they competed in their conference. BYU only beat Stanford because it was at home, and Stanford wasn’t playing well, etc. *See page 6 in this thread
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Post by bigfan on Nov 8, 2018 20:19:46 GMT -5
I thought you love the city of San diego and are going to the match. You said san Diego is closer to you then Provo somehwere in the past on this board. You have never thrown a hissy fit on Volleytalk? OK. The match is in Provo. Define “hissy fit”.My angst comes from B1G and PAC-12 posters who say BYU would never be undefeated if they competed in their conference. BYU only beat Stanford because it was at home, and Stanford wasn’t playing well, etc. *See page 6 in this thread
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Post by azvb on Nov 8, 2018 20:39:33 GMT -5
The match is in Provo. Define “hissy fit”.My angst comes from B1G and PAC-12 posters who say BYU would never be undefeated if they competed in their conference. BYU only beat Stanford because it was at home, and Stanford wasn’t playing well, etc. *See page 6 in this thread Hissy fit because I defend my team? I would say the posters who whine about BYU’s easy conference schedule are the ones throwing hissy fits.
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Post by vbkahuna on Nov 8, 2018 20:47:55 GMT -5
So the solution is a lot simpler than changing conferences or going independent...just beat all your competitors in the playoffs. Then BYU will have proven that it was best regardless of what conference it was in. Both AVCA and VT continue to rank BYU as #!, and will continue to do so as long as they keep winning. Chill.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 8, 2018 21:59:55 GMT -5
I know none of you are watching BYU playing Santa Clara, but in set 2, McKenna Miller went down with what looks like a significant knee injury. This is a HUUUUUGGGEblow for BYU.
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Post by naujack85 on Nov 8, 2018 22:59:04 GMT -5
I know none of you are watching BYU playing Santa Clara, but in set 2, McKenna Miller went down with what looks like a significant knee injury. This is a HUUUUUGGGEblow for BYU. WHAT? ?? That is awful. Hopefully she can recover quickly and be there for the playoffs. If not, that would be absolutely devastating for the Cougars.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 8, 2018 23:11:15 GMT -5
I know none of you are watching BYU playing Santa Clara, but in set 2, McKenna Miller went down with what looks like a significant knee injury. This is a HUUUUUGGGEblow for BYU. WHAT? ?? That is awful. Hopefully she can recover quickly and be there for the playoffs. If not, that would be absolutely devastating for the Cougars. From watching the replay several times, I would be very surprised if it is not an ACL tear. Really devastating for BYU. I will definitely have to re-configure my top 3 this week. Very sad.
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