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Post by sevb on Apr 14, 2019 9:49:02 GMT -5
I find it very sad that this forum has become PrepvolleyballJr... and overrun by parents and entitled athletes... its used to be way cooler... Dinosaurs are way cool too ... after a few hundred million years. Arguing to the lowest common denominator isn't helpful. Of course there are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, entitled parents and their spawn. But this is not a new phenomenon. Those same type of parents and people have always existed. What is important is to understand the environment in which it is taking place. What I hear from you is: "The sands are shifting, and I don't understand what (or why) this is happening." A successful coach in this environment is going to have to navigate a terrain where players/parents want a pal or a tour guide rather than a teacher. But let's not kid ourselves. Who created the environment where obnoxious, entitled parents could fester? It was selfish, greedy, obnoxious entitled club directors and coaches. The only edit I would make would be what you hear from me... "The sands are shifting, and it doesn't matter why. Surround yourself with ppl you want to work with everyday, get them on your bus and in the right seat. If they don't want to be there... let them wade through the sand elsewhere." |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 9:58:51 GMT -5
All sorts of college coaches read VT. There's good info here and its available faster here than IRL. This forum is full of overly sensationalized, overly dramatic and overly speculative (and wrong) information. That’s why it’s entertaining. But most of it is not “good info”. I would hope the smart coaches know that. Its the internet. Always read with hyperbole glasses on. YOu could also say "passionate, detailed, and insightful (and right) information" and be equally correct. Through a lurking friend, I know who a couple of the posters are in real life. They ARE the smart coaches. |
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Post by joetrinsey on Apr 14, 2019 10:25:53 GMT -5
I find it very sad that a college volleyball coach feels the need to defend himself on this forum. Or even reads this forum at all for that matter. If that’s where you are in your career then maybe you shouldn’t be coaching. All sorts of college coaches read VT. There's good info here and its available faster here than IRL. In my experience, 100% of college volleyball coaches read Volleytalk. Hi friends! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 12:19:43 GMT -5
MTSU was sued big time by Matt not to long ago. Wonder if this response by the admin is tempered by that. I would say it did.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 12:41:35 GMT -5
MTSU was sued big time by Matt not to long ago. Wonder if this response by the admin is tempered by that. I would say it did. Help me out on this? I don’t see the connection. Matt brought up equity issues, I thought that’s why MTSU fired him. |
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Post by trollhunter on Apr 14, 2019 12:44:06 GMT -5
MTSU was sued big time by Matt not to long ago. Wonder if this response by the admin is tempered by that. I would say it did. Help me out on this? I don’t see the connection. Matt brought up equity issues, I thought that’s why MTSU fired him. Maybe there still are. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 16:55:06 GMT -5
Hats off to administration with a desire to develop their coaches. This is the rare trait anymore. Very few coaches I know are mistake free. It’s how we respond and our administration responds. Fortunately for Chuck, his administration took a develop mindset. As Geno Auriemma said before the final four for WBB, most coaches are scared of their athletes. Unfortunately, this is true. Every one of us coaches is one pissed off parent/player away from being un-hirable. “Investigation” is the new buzzword and normally means goodbye for all involved. This is not the type of “coach development” any program wants to spend money on. “Coaching development” and “fulfilling personal development courses needed to manage anger per written final warning prior to losing one’s job” are not synonymous. |
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Post by bigfan on Apr 14, 2019 16:59:16 GMT -5
As someone who knows one of those SAs, they weren't being idiots. The team wasn't winning, and his reaction was to punish them however he saw fit. I have heard things like, lowering their per diem for meals, taking away their spirit wear, telling them he was just going to lower his expectations, etc. What a feeling to wonder which coach was going to show up...Chuck or Chuckie. If true he should have been asked to leave forever. |
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Post by sevb on Apr 14, 2019 18:05:06 GMT -5
Ill keep an eye out on the transfer portal for those poor kids... if its that bad Im sure they're free to go
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Post by n00b on Apr 14, 2019 19:32:28 GMT -5
Ill keep an eye out on the transfer portal for those poor kids... if its that bad Im sure they're free to go Three are on there. |
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Post by shawty on Apr 14, 2019 21:34:58 GMT -5
Ill keep an eye out on the transfer portal for those poor kids... if its that bad Im sure they're free to go Three are on there. Welp... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 21:46:06 GMT -5
Back on p.2, I gave this Chuck kudos for having the (insane?) courage to ID himself and address us VTers. THAT being said, I agree with Joe Trinsey: there IS something missing in his story!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 21:55:45 GMT -5
MTSU was sued big time by Matt not to long ago. Wonder if this response by the admin is tempered by that. I would say it did. Help me out on this? I don’t see the connection. Matt brought up equity issues, I thought that’s why MTSU fired him. Losing millions firing a coach. Timid to have it happen again. Thinking it figured in. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 21:58:14 GMT -5
Help me out on this? I don’t see the connection. Matt brought up equity issues, I thought that’s why MTSU fired him. Losing millions firing a coach. Timid to have it happen again. Thinking it figured in. Ah, ok. That makes sense. |
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Post by ironhammer on Apr 14, 2019 22:19:00 GMT -5
This forum is full of overly sensationalized, overly dramatic and overly speculative (and wrong) information. That’s why it’s entertaining. But most of it is not “good info”. I would hope the smart coaches know that. Great 2nd post... Of course, that leads to how one defines "good" or "bad" information... |
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