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Post by vbofficial on May 3, 2019 20:38:14 GMT -5
Still perplexed by the admission of wrongdoing and MTSU gives only a 2 week suspension. Something is going on with only 6 players left on roster.
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Post by n00b on May 3, 2019 21:09:54 GMT -5
Still perplexed by the admission of wrongdoing and MTSU gives only a 2 week suspension. Something is going on with only 6 players left on roster. The admission is of a relatively minor NCAA violation and of cursing. If every coach was suspended for those things, you'd have a LOT of empty sidelines. Yes, players transferring out is not a good look. But there are quite a few schools that have placed 3+ players into the portal. |
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Post by vbofficial on May 3, 2019 23:04:43 GMT -5
1) If he only violated a small rule, WHY IN THE WIRLD WOULD HE AGREE TO SIGN A “Last Chance Agreement”
2) Show me ANY other D1 program with ONLY 6 players on their Spring 19 roster. (We did the research, there aren’t any)
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 11:44:03 GMT -5
People say, “I don’t see anything wrong with challenging players”, ok alright, not a problem. Challenge them in effective and developmental environments that they LEARN from and KNOW the steps how to grow/develop. If you hurt 1 person emotionally or psychologically it’s 1 too many. Players are learning there are so MANY effective and positive ways to coach/instruct/teach that they DO NOT have to put up in the toxic and unhealthy environment that the MTSU coach put them in. He was guilty from self admission. The athletic department had a “LAST CHANCE AGREEMENT”, he signed....didn’t fight it. Seems there is more to this story. |
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Post by trollhunter on May 4, 2019 12:23:27 GMT -5
1) If he only violated a small rule, WHY IN THE WIRLD WOULD HE AGREE TO SIGN A “Last Chance Agreement” 2) Show me ANY other D1 program with ONLY 6 players on their Spring 19 roster. (We did the research, there aren’t any) I call BS on claim #2. Most colleges don't post a spring roster. Exactly what "research" did you do? I know many programs that have not played during a spring season because they did not have enough players on active roster due to injury, transfer, grades, retirement, grads, discipline, etc |
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Post by vbofficial on May 4, 2019 22:45:04 GMT -5
When you are injured you still are listed on roster, as well as those with grade issues. In order to be taken off you have to be ineligible and that is completely different. Check the research. ONLY D1 program with 6 players on roster.
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Post by sevb on May 5, 2019 6:33:51 GMT -5
When you are injured you still are listed on roster, as well as those with grade issues. In order to be taken off you have to be ineligible and that is completely different. Check the research. ONLY D1 program with 6 players on roster. I guess you would have to call all 334 D1 compliance offices to know that... “in order to be taken off you have to be ineligible...” Grades will certainly do that... And yet I’m certain there are plenty of ineligible SAs out there on rosters... with grades that won t allow them to compete that season. |
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Post by saywho on May 5, 2019 7:54:30 GMT -5
This thread is such a %*$# show. There’s people involved coming from all directions at each other. My takeaways...the coach got angry. There could be some pieces missing from the story but at least is taking some of the fault. There’s some primadonnas on the team. They’re not taking any blame, which is in line with being a primadonna and won’t leave this alone until they can be right. And they likely got that trait from their parents, who are obviously posting here. So, let that process continue...
One question, it was stated that ‘we’ did the research (when referencing spring teams). Who the heck posts as a we? And why is there some sort of ‘team’ collectively posting as one name on volleytalk? It seems childish to me.
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Post by trollhunter on May 5, 2019 13:16:11 GMT -5
When you are injured you still are listed on roster, as well as those with grade issues. In order to be taken off you have to be ineligible and that is completely different. Check the research. ONLY D1 program with 6 players on roster. I'd love to check your research! Please post it here as well as the methodology instead of just wild claims. Did you check every D1 website? How many had a spring roster? How many just had 2018 roster still? how many just had one for 2019? Of those how many included incoming freshmen and transfers especially those at semester? Did you call every sports information department to ask when they update rosters? Did you call every compliance office to see who's eligible who is transferring who's retiring who graduated early etc? Did you check social media and news outlets for all like you did for MTSU? Did you call or email every coach since they have a lot of that information. |
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Post by trollhunter on May 5, 2019 13:21:36 GMT -5
When you are injured you still are listed on roster, as well as those with grade issues. In order to be taken off you have to be ineligible and that is completely different. Check the research. ONLY D1 program with 6 players on roster. That a parent is going to post on a anonymous message board making unsubstantiated and demonstrably false statements on a barely related topic is not a good look. Leads me to believe that is also what their daughter is doing to the coach. The apple does not fall far from the tree |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 13:45:08 GMT -5
1) If he only violated a small rule, WHY IN THE WIRLD WOULD HE AGREE TO SIGN A “Last Chance Agreement” 2) Show me ANY other D1 program with ONLY 6 players on their Spring 19 roster. (We did the research, there aren’t any) I was kinda with you on the majority of your main treatise; but as others have aptly stated here, #2 seems to have "vendetta" implied/ written all over it! Not a good look. |
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Post by trollhunter on May 7, 2019 12:06:26 GMT -5
A half hour of "research" in Jobs thread and Transfers thread led to these schools that were at 6 or less this spring due to transfers, graduation, coach not renewing kids, quit, ineligible, injured, etc.
Arkansas Pine Bluff
Auburn
Delaware State
Georgetown
Louisville
Nichols State
SIU Carbondale
Univ Mass Lowell
Univ of Incarnate Word
I'm sure there are several more now if someone wants to check NCAA transfer portal, view all 2019 rosters, check for spring rosters, etc.
Once we get closer to 2019 season, you could compare 2018 and 2019 rosters to find MANY more with large turnover (and not enough players for spring) that was behind the scenes. Most schools don't advertise players quitting, not being renewed, transferring, ineligible, injured, etc.
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Post by trollhunter on May 7, 2019 12:24:31 GMT -5
A half hour of "research" in Jobs thread and Transfers thread led to these schools that were at 6 or less this spring due to transfers, graduation, coach not renewing kids, quit, ineligible, injured, etc. Arkansas Pine Bluff Auburn Delaware State Georgetown Louisville Nichols State SIU Carbondale Univ Mass Lowell Univ of Incarnate Word I'm sure there are several more now if someone wants to check NCAA transfer portal, view all 2019 rosters, check for spring rosters, etc. Once we get closer to 2019 season, you could compare 2018 and 2019 rosters to find MANY more with large turnover (and not enough players for spring) that was behind the scenes. Most schools don't advertise players quitting, not being renewed, transferring, ineligible, injured, etc. Louisville has 10 this Spring Perhaps they had their 4 seniors play this spring? Or letting kids transferring play with the squad? EDIT: Looking at their Twitter it appears they let seniors play cuz they were so short of players. And a couple freshman that enrolled early? |
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Post by vbofficial on May 7, 2019 12:58:20 GMT -5
Players on 2019 Spring Roster....
Nichols State 14
Delaware State 10
Georgetown 10
SIU Carbondale 13
UMass Lowell 9
Univ of Incarnate Word 10
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Post by trollhunter on May 7, 2019 13:09:16 GMT -5
Players on 2019 Spring Roster.... Nichols State 14 Delaware State 10 Georgetown 10 SIU Carbondale 13 UMass Lowell 9 Univ of Incarnate Word 10 MTSU has 12 on their online "roster". Didn't your research (still waiting on exactly what it was) show that those teams above had a bunch of kids transfer, graduate, etc. and were unavailable for spring? |
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