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Post by vbnerd on Nov 18, 2019 10:05:53 GMT -5
ADs DD hits .079 (hitting negative 8 times, while hitting over .200 just 5 times), leads the team in RE, finds only 13 blocks in 82 sets. When that’s the player whose success you job is based on, you are in trouble. This kid has now ended two coaching staffs and she has 2 years of eligibility left. I cannot imagine who is going to take this job. Nope. We aren’t going in on this kid. She wasn’t the problem as you think. She did not single handly get Sam and Julie fired. Your assumptions are incorrect so I need you all to understand that while assumptions can be made that because she is the ADs fault she is sitting on a throne to be able to make those decisions you are 100% more about the situation that you don’t know about. So let’s stop putting all of it on this kid and digging into her stats to find the answer because that is petty and doesn’t give the full story. Not her fault. Did she talk to dad? Yep. But way more things pushed the firing forward. More than talking to dad. Well her stats are her stats, she has been there through now 2 coaching changes, and I simply cannot imagine who jumps to grab this situation. None of those things are debatable. So the only part you could take issue with is that her personal success (or lack there of) was a consideration in the decision not to renew the coach. I cannot prove that and maybe something else happened to force this decision but then why did they keep rolling out an OH hitting .079 and over .5 REs per set? That a player with those numbers kept showing up the lineup has to raise suspicion, right? |
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Post by vbnerd on Nov 18, 2019 10:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by sevb on Nov 18, 2019 10:16:35 GMT -5
Nope. We aren’t going in on this kid. She wasn’t the problem as you think. She did not single handly get Sam and Julie fired. Your assumptions are incorrect so I need you all to understand that while assumptions can be made that because she is the ADs fault she is sitting on a throne to be able to make those decisions you are 100% more about the situation that you don’t know about. So let’s stop putting all of it on this kid and digging into her stats to find the answer because that is petty and doesn’t give the full story. Not her fault. Did she talk to dad? Yep. But way more things pushed the firing forward. More than talking to dad. Well her stats are her stats, she has been there through now 2 coaching changes, and I simply cannot imagine who jumps to grab this situation. None of those things are debatable. So the only part you could take issue with is that her personal success (or lack there of) was a consideration in the decision not to renew the coach. I cannot prove that and maybe something else happened to force this decision but then why did they keep rolling out an OH hitting .079 and over .5 REs per set? That a player with those numbers kept showing up the lineup has to raise suspicion, right? Injuries? Finite number of OHs? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 10:26:02 GMT -5
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Post by yourmom on Nov 18, 2019 13:57:31 GMT -5
Eastern Illinois was screwed regardless. ADs daughter is on the team. Not a lot of unbiased observation going on. Good luck to whoever takes that train wreck. ADs DD hits .079 (hitting negative 8 times, while hitting over .200 just 5 times), leads the team in RE, finds only 13 blocks in 82 sets. When that’s the player whose success your job is based on, you are in trouble. This kid has now ended two coaching staffs and she has 2 years of eligibility left. I cannot imagine who is going to take this job. Why are you stalking a kids stats. It is interesting that you assume the coaches wanted to play any kid with those stats and not that maybe injuries and other situations forced them to. Again. You are making grand assumptions with no information and pinning them in a kid. I told you pretty obviously that the kid had zero to do with this situation and is a good kid, maybe a sub par player but a good kid. You are making it that the success of a job is based on her when that isn’t the case. You are making a bunch of assumption to build your case that the daughter has something to do with it when she doesn’t. Her stats in this situation have zero reason to matter. She is the ADs kid. She didn’t have anything to do with the HC being fired. Your shifting through her stats and attempting to make It seem like that in a round about way is not needed. Please stop trying to make this kid responsible for it. It isn’t cool or needed. |
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Post by Winbabywin on Nov 18, 2019 14:18:32 GMT -5
I'm not well-versed in Southland volleyball; why is it that Lamar has always struggled? Is it simply a case of lack of funding/support? Have they never had a coach that made a huge impact? Limited scholarships? Bad salary? Is Beaumont an undesirable place to live? What's the story?
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Post by user93 on Nov 18, 2019 14:27:14 GMT -5
What happened at Shorter? Head coach hired in Spring of 2019 quit about 2 weeks before season. Why? do not know... School went with young, right-out-of-school, recently hired asst coach for this season. Have not seen a new posting, but I am guessing they will do a search after the season. He got fired and the two graduate assistants are coaching the team |
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Post by setter1848 on Nov 18, 2019 15:08:12 GMT -5
I'm not well-versed in Southland volleyball; why is it that Lamar has always struggled? Is it simply a case of lack of funding/support? Have they never had a coach that made a huge impact? Limited scholarships? Bad salary? Is Beaumont an undesirable place to live? What's the story? They were top of the conference years ago. Don’t know what happened with last 2 coaches |
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Post by wmiv1895 on Nov 18, 2019 20:01:33 GMT -5
I'm not well-versed in Southland volleyball; why is it that Lamar has always struggled? Is it simply a case of lack of funding/support? Have they never had a coach that made a huge impact? Limited scholarships? Bad salary? Is Beaumont an undesirable place to live? What's the story? They were top of the conference years ago. Don’t know what happened with last 2 coaches Yes, they’ve won the league before back in 2007, I believe, under Coach Gibert. They have a nice volleyball specific gym. Part of the challenge of Lamar is that they are bordered on 3 sides by refineries and chemical plants. Location in Beaumont is not near “stuff” college kids might be looking for. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Nov 18, 2019 20:20:12 GMT -5
They were top of the conference years ago. Don’t know what happened with last 2 coaches Yes, they’ve won the league before back in 2007, I believe, under Coach Gibert. They have a nice volleyball specific gym. Part of the challenge of Lamar is that they are bordered on 3 sides by refineries and chemical plants. Location in Beaumont is not near “stuff” college kids might be looking for. I interviewed for a faculty job at Lamar when I was just finishing gradual school. The dean of engineering came to pick me up in his 1960's vintage land yacht, I threw my bag in his trunk full of power tools and various junk. He was wearing jeans, cowboy boots, and a big cowboy hat. Nice fellow. Took me to the school. We pulled up to a brand new engineering building, next to the statue of Mirabeau Lamar, the predisdent of the Republic of Texas. The statue was very corroded from the stuff coming out of the smoke stacks of the refineries just over the fence. If you doubt the effects of acid rain, this would convince you. The "grass" all around campus is brown, for the same reason. The place resembled the lunar landscape, with a bunch of smokestacks spewing flames right next to the engineering building. The building itself was pretty nice, new facilities, labs were great, new lab benches and instrumentation. But there were very few grad students to do research there, let along teach labs. Dean told me that new cars don't look new for very long in town, the chrome starts to peel off. The EE department had 5-6 professors, they all teach one entire area by themselves. The controls prof teaches all the controls classes, the electronics prof teaches all the electronics classes. Each prof would have three to four classes a semester to teach, not including labs. I would be responsible for all the power classes they offer. There is no ramping up period for new profs, you get thrown into the deep end and they don't give you time or funding to do research, your job is to teach, but you are expected to write papers to get tenure. This is why a lot of the profs come in as retirees from other schools, it is next to impossible to get tenure unless you already had tenure. They took me out to lunch, the entire college of engineering faculty, all of them, maybe a couple of dozen people. I asked them what they did for fun, they all lived outside of town, Beaumont and Port Arthur were the two big towns in the area. Port Arthur is where Janis Joplin grew up, the other famous person from the area is Jimmy Johnson the football coach, not the race car driver. They then all started talking about the hurricanes that will hit the area with some regularity. The cities are pretty prosperous, thanks to the refineries and the oil and gas business. I turned the job down. |
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Post by centxvb512 on Nov 18, 2019 20:42:21 GMT -5
I'm not well-versed in Southland volleyball; why is it that Lamar has always struggled? Is it simply a case of lack of funding/support? Have they never had a coach that made a huge impact? Limited scholarships? Bad salary? Is Beaumont an undesirable place to live? What's the story? They were top of the conference years ago. Don’t know what happened with last 2 coaches Coach just fired was hold over from previous staff that was fired. Think they just need a culture change. Watched them play some Southland schools and talent appears to be there. Know AD is also a recent hire so maybe there just needs to be a clean slate. No reason they can't win in that league IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 21:17:10 GMT -5
Lamar University had 2 great coaches in its history.
-Katrina Jo Crawford. Coaches from 1982-1996.
Was a great player and won several conference championships.
-Jim Barnes. Won championships in ‘97 and ‘01.
Coached at Baylor 11 years and went to the Sweet 16 in ‘09. Now at Tulane.
Lamar was the best in the Southland many years and because of its location to so much club talent around Houston should be a top half team every year in the Southland.
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Post by centxvb512 on Nov 18, 2019 21:33:44 GMT -5
Lamar University had 2 great coaches in its history. -Katrina Jo Crawford. Coaches from 1982-1996. Was a great player and won several conference championships. -Jim Barnes. Won championships in ‘97 and ‘01. Coached at Baylor 11 years and went to the Sweet 16 in ‘09. Now at Tulane. Lamar was the best in the Southland many years and because of its location to so much club talent around Houston should be a top half team every year in the Southland. Agree with the Houston talent comment for sure. |
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Post by jumboshrimp on Nov 19, 2019 5:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by karellen on Nov 19, 2019 5:17:19 GMT -5
Olivet-Nazerene (NAIA, Illinois) posted for head coach for men/women's vb.
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