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Post by blue-footedbooby on Nov 19, 2019 10:15:48 GMT -5
After the Hawaii loss I called a rematch in Seattle. Even a broken cuckoo clock is correct twice a day.
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Post by Kingsley on Nov 19, 2019 10:19:21 GMT -5
I’d still like to believe that South Dakota, even at 27-1 and 38 in RPI, has to get the Summit auto-bid to make the tournament.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 19, 2019 10:26:14 GMT -5
If we assume Creighton ends up hosting a regional, that's a whole lot of regionals in the northern plains/upper midwest. They might have to fly in some teams, I think. Based on this prognostication, here would be some potential teams in each regional:
Nebraska:
Colorado State
Northern Colorado
Oklahoma
Creighton:
South Dakota
Iowa State
Missouri
Minnesota:
?
Wisconsin:
Northern Iowa
Illinois
?
Marquette:
Notre Dame
Purdue
Michigan
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Post by big10+4 fan on Nov 19, 2019 10:29:56 GMT -5
If we assume Creighton ends up hosting a regional, that's a whole lot of regionals in the northern plains/upper midwest. They might have to fly in some teams, I think. Based on this prognostication, here would be some potential teams in each regional: Nebraska:Colorado State Northern Colorado Oklahoma Creighton:South Dakota Iowa State Missouri Minnesota:? Wisconsin:Northern Iowa Illinois ? Marquette:Notre Dame Purdue Michigan Can't have Illinois at Wisconsin or 2 big 10 teams at Marquette. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 19, 2019 10:30:40 GMT -5
If we assume Creighton ends up hosting a regional, that's a whole lot of regionals in the northern plains/upper midwest. They might have to fly in some teams, I think. Based on this prognostication, here would be some potential teams in each regional: Nebraska:Colorado State Northern Colorado Oklahoma Creighton:South Dakota Iowa State Missouri Minnesota:? Wisconsin:Northern Iowa Illinois ? Marquette:Notre Dame Purdue Michigan The MAC winner and Horizon (maybe 2x) are drive-ins to some of these. Oklahoma is going to A&M if they are a seed. Colorado schools are fly-ins to Nebraska. |
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 19, 2019 10:41:27 GMT -5
If we assume Creighton ends up hosting a regional, that's a whole lot of regionals in the northern plains/upper midwest. They might have to fly in some teams, I think. Based on this prognostication, here would be some potential teams in each regional: Nebraska:Colorado State Northern Colorado Oklahoma Creighton:South Dakota Iowa State Missouri Minnesota:? Wisconsin:Northern Iowa Illinois ? Marquette:Notre Dame Purdue Michigan The MAC winner and Horizon (maybe 2x) are drive-ins to some of these. Oklahoma is going to A&M if they are a seed. Colorado schools are fly-ins to Nebraska. Totally missed Green Bay. Yeah, I suppose once they have to fly, the distance wouldn't matter much anymore. I don't know all the rules with not putting conference foes together, or P-5 schools. Was just looking strictly at geography. With that having been said, I think it's pretty safe to say South Dakota, Iowa State, Northern Iowa and Green Bay will not be flying anywhere with so many regionals in their backyards. |
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Post by eotexas5 on Nov 19, 2019 10:50:12 GMT -5
Will they send a B10 team to Pittsburgh?
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 19, 2019 10:56:14 GMT -5
Will they send a B10 team to Pittsburgh? I think Michigan is the only drive-in choice. |
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Post by cindra on Nov 19, 2019 11:07:30 GMT -5
Will they send a B10 team to Pittsburgh? I think Michigan is the only drive-in choice. Fun chance for a rematch of last year. |
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Post by huskerrob on Nov 19, 2019 11:47:23 GMT -5
how do you forecast Wisconsin over Nebraska based on head to head, but then fail to use head to head to forecast Creighton over Marquette, which you seem to suggest overall record matters more? Because H2H is one of many criteria's used by the committee and isn't the most important one. And no, Overall record doesn't matter more and is pretty far down on the list. the point of the post was a view that the criteria wasn't being used universally, and that it seemed things were being applied to get a result desired instead of a process that produced a result uniformly and unbiased. |
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Post by bigfan on Nov 19, 2019 12:06:28 GMT -5
1 Baylor - 16 Creighton 8 Nebraska - 9 Kentucky 4 Pittsburgh - 13 Florida 5 Wisconsin - 12 Utah 3 Stanford - 14 Penn State 6 Minnesota - 11 Marquette 2 Texas - 15 Rice 7 Washington - 10 Hawaii I like it but do you really think the committee will let Hawaii host? This will be the 1st time in at least 20 years that no team from southern California will host a first round |
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Post by Sbilo on Nov 19, 2019 12:20:34 GMT -5
1 Baylor - 16 Creighton 8 Nebraska - 9 Kentucky 4 Pittsburgh - 13 Florida 5 Wisconsin - 12 Utah 3 Stanford - 14 Penn State 6 Minnesota - 11 Marquette 2 Texas - 15 Rice 7 Washington - 10 Hawaii I like it but do you really think the committee will let Hawaii host? This will be the 1st time in at least 20 years that no team from southern California will host a first round Flip Penn State and Rice and that Texas Regional will be fun. |
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Post by noblesol on Nov 19, 2019 12:56:04 GMT -5
There may be a bit of defensible whimsy in these brackets, but I like it.
As for Hawai'i, they'll have good odds at hosting should they win out, but likely not a #10 seed. Something in the #12-#16 range I'd venture. I can see the committee bouncing them though. It is always easy to plug Hawai'i into a mainland sub-regional due to the 'geography' and 'integrity' clause, which gives the committee a need for a team they can plug in most anywhere on the mainland and make a case for it. For example, if they have to fly Hawai'i over five hours to reach the west coast, what's a few more hours to fly into somewhere in Texas? But, a sub-regional in Hawai'i has its attractions as well. They'd probably sell around 10k tickets, plus a larger media interest, and cover the extra costs. Most teams and NCAA officials will hope to be in a Hawai'i sub-regional. Not hard to sell folks on a trip to Hawai'i in December.
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Post by nakedcrayon on Nov 19, 2019 12:56:16 GMT -5
FYI last time TAMU hosted we had the following
TAMU CC
TCU
HAWAII
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Post by hammer on Nov 19, 2019 14:23:46 GMT -5
Here are the B1G matches coming up that I expect could rearrange the deck on the seeds:
1. Neb @ Minny, Nov 20
2. Neb @ Wisky, Nov 24
3. Wisky @ PSU, Nov 29
4. Minny @ PSU, Nov 30
And likewise, in the Pac-12, these might cause some changes:
1. Stanford @ Utah, Nov 22
2. Stanford @ WSU, Nov 26
3. WSU @ WU, Nov 30
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