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Post by jwvolley on Jun 13, 2023 19:32:37 GMT -5
While Nebraska is always a massive threat and I’m really, really not trying to jinx it, but Texas can pretty much offer Spears a starting spot her freshman year. Whether he says it or not, you can look at the depth chart and see that. Nebraska cannot. In fact, theres a chance she wouldn’t see time on the left pin until 2027. I definitely feel like our pin hitter depth chart for 2025 will be more inviting than Nebraska's. But, that's as of right now. So much can change between now and then; unfortunately, these 2025 recruits don't have crystal balls to know how the rosters and depth charts will look 2 years from now. After 2024, we lose (likely) multiple year starters in Skinner and Wenaas. Kahahawai will have one year of eligibility remaining. So, that leaves Byrd, Helmers, and Tomkinson for a true freshman pin to battle with for 2 pin hitter starting spots. Nebraska would still likely have returning pin hitter starters in Harper Murray (JR), Skylar Pierce (RS-FR or SO), and Caroline Jurevicius (RS-SO or JR) to try and unseat. Granted, Spears did beat out Pierce last summer for a roster spot with USA basketball; so, I'm sure she has the confidence in herself that she could go to just about any program and earn that starting sport as a true freshman. It's gonna be interesting to follow Jurevicius' career at Nebraska. I doubt she ever expected someone like Beason to transfer to Nebraska and have a direct impact on her first and second year playing time. Maybe she'll redshirt a season. Maybe her affinity for Nebraska is so great that the depth chart has no impact. Pierce would not be a returning starter unless she shows up in fall 2024 looking otherworldly. The Krause/Batenhorst/Beason trio are seniors in 2024. She and Spears would hypothetically be in the same position of trying to prove they should start in 2025. Pierce would have the year of practice in the gym, to be fair. As for Caroline, Beason's transfer didn't really change the timeline that she would've had in mind when she committed. There was always meant to be a player at opposite graduating in 2024 and Caroline knew that she'd be up against that when she committed. |
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Post by skyspy on Jun 13, 2023 19:49:33 GMT -5
we should have the upper hand on middles… our middles are freaking killing it on the international stage and Nebraska has Allick, Mendelson, Jackson, and Ames. I don’t see how a top 2025 middle wants to go to that logjam. My experience is that people make an emotional decision then rationalize it afterwards. I don’t know how big of a priority the MB position is for Nebraska. But they’ve done an amazing job of selling recruits emotionally on the Nebraska experience regardless of the depth chart. I do know they need to get their setting figured out, but I also have a lot of confidence they’ll do so. I’d also say they need to beat Wisconsin someday, but it hasn’t put a damper in their recruiting so far, so what do I know? The irony is the Huskers have one of the best 2025 MBs literally right down the street from campus too. Someone is going to get a good one if the Huskers pass. Looks like most top Big 10 and P5 school are following too. |
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Post by horns1 on Jun 13, 2023 20:37:09 GMT -5
I definitely feel like our pin hitter depth chart for 2025 will be more inviting than Nebraska's. But, that's as of right now. So much can change between now and then; unfortunately, these 2025 recruits don't have crystal balls to know how the rosters and depth charts will look 2 years from now. After 2024, we lose (likely) multiple year starters in Skinner and Wenaas. Kahahawai will have one year of eligibility remaining. So, that leaves Byrd, Helmers, and Tomkinson for a true freshman pin to battle with for 2 pin hitter starting spots. Nebraska would still likely have returning pin hitter starters in Harper Murray (JR), Skylar Pierce (RS-FR or SO), and Caroline Jurevicius (RS-SO or JR) to try and unseat. Granted, Spears did beat out Pierce last summer for a roster spot with USA basketball; so, I'm sure she has the confidence in herself that she could go to just about any program and earn that starting sport as a true freshman. It's gonna be interesting to follow Jurevicius' career at Nebraska. I doubt she ever expected someone like Beason to transfer to Nebraska and have a direct impact on her first and second year playing time. Maybe she'll redshirt a season. Maybe her affinity for Nebraska is so great that the depth chart has no impact. Pierce would not be a returning starter unless she shows up in fall 2024 looking otherworldly. The Krause/Batenhorst/Beason trio are seniors in 2024. She and Spears would hypothetically be in the same position of trying to prove they should start in 2025. Pierce would have the year of practice in the gym, to be fair. As for Caroline, Beason's transfer didn't really change the timeline that she would've had in mind when she committed. There was always meant to be a player at opposite graduating in 2024 and Caroline knew that she'd be up against that when she committed. Possibly. Although Cook was quoted as saying Jurevicius has "a million-dollar arm". Not sure he's said that about too many signees; speaks to her talent. If Beason hadn't transferred in (1-2 months after Jurevicius had signed her LOI), and Lauenstein hadn't left the program, I think Jurevicius would have a greater chance of unseating Lauenstein (than Beason). So, no way of knowing Jurevicius' mindset (about her first year playing time) when she signed her LOI and after Beason transferred in. Will be interesting to see if Krause & Batenhorst both stay 2 more season if one gets passed on the depth chart this August camp by Harper Murray. No upperclassman returning starter likes losing their spot to a true freshman; that's when concerns about future playing time start to creep in, and tough decisions need to be made. But, you are right that Pierce most likely wouldn't be a starter in 2024 based on the depth chart. |
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Post by katn on Jun 13, 2023 21:25:37 GMT -5
attrition is going to happen @ both texas & nebraska in the next year or 2 so it's going to get interesting (i would guess @ least 1 to 2 players on each team)...who really knows if players will return for their super senior year @ texas...when players go to these top tier programs they really don't know how hard it is to see the court & they are used to being the superstar player for their hs/club teams...excited for the upcoming season hopefully the horns will make another deep run...nice to have some new teams to play in conference & the move to the sec is right around the corner too
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Post by slxpress on Jun 13, 2023 21:26:45 GMT -5
Departing seniors after the 2024 season: OH - Madi Skinner OH - Jenna Wenaas DS - Keonilei Akana Looking at our projected roster for 2025 (* denoting those who I believe might not be scholarship players) based on my assumptions as to who redshirts at one point: SeniorsOPP - Devin Kahahawai (SR) L - Emma Halter (SR)
JuniorsMB - Marianna Singletary (R-JR) S - *Marina Crownover (R-JR) OH - *Kenna Miller (R-JR) OH - Jordyn Byrd (JR) S - Ella Swindle (JR)
SophomoresOPP - *Auburn Tomkinson (R-SO) MB - Nya Burton (R-SO) OH - Sydney Helmers (R-SO) L - *Reese Emerick (SO) S - *Rella Binney (SO) So difficult to predict how many 2025 recruits we'll end up signing as so much can happen with attrition as well as incoming transfers between now and November 2024 signing period. My "safe" number is 3 signees; 4 at the most if the coaching staff is really fond of them. As much as I'd like to sign one of the top setters in the class, they'd be joining the program knowing Swindle would still have 2 seasons of eligibility remaining. Definitely see us signing at least one OH and one MB. I just want to say how much I appreciate all the legwork you and others do. I don’t follow the social media part well, but I pretend like I do because of how much you guys share with us regarding the ins and outs of various follows. All of y’all help make the process more fun. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jun 14, 2023 7:25:58 GMT -5
As much as I'd like to sign one of the top setters in the class, they'd be joining the program knowing Swindle would still have 2 seasons of eligibility remaining. I take some comfort that if the race is between TX and Nebraska, that factor is a wash. Any incoming setter would be behind Swindle or Bergen Reilly. But they're fairly confident on the Husker thread on Flynn, so I'm not getting my hopes up. |
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Post by horns1 on Jun 14, 2023 7:39:21 GMT -5
As much as I'd like to sign one of the top setters in the class, they'd be joining the program knowing Swindle would still have 2 seasons of eligibility remaining. I take some comfort that if the race is between TX and Nebraska, that factor is a wash. Any incoming setter would be behind Swindle or Bergen Reilly. But they're fairly confident on the Husker thread on Flynn, so I'm not getting my hopes up. I saw last night that Jordan Larson started following Cari Spears and setter, Charolotte Glass on Instagram. Just my opinion, but no reason for Larson to follow Glass if Campbell Flynn was in the bag for the Huskers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 8:23:23 GMT -5
Serious question. I know there’s a ranking out there but is it virtually a wash as far as Flynn, Messer, Glass, etc are concerned or is there a clear standout?
Sorry if this is kind of a dumb question. I’ve never seen these girls play besides the occasional highlight reel.
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Post by nellynel on Jun 14, 2023 8:29:58 GMT -5
I take some comfort that if the race is between TX and Nebraska, that factor is a wash. Any incoming setter would be behind Swindle or Bergen Reilly. But they're fairly confident on the Husker thread on Flynn, so I'm not getting my hopes up. I saw last night that Jordan Larson started following Cari Spears and setter, Charolotte Glass on Instagram. Just my opinion, but no reason for Larson to follow Glass if Campbell Flynn was in the bag for the Huskers. Every reason when you are part of  |
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Post by potato518 on Jun 14, 2023 9:11:01 GMT -5
Serious question. I know there’s a ranking out there but is it virtually a wash as far as Flynn, Messer, Glass, etc are concerned or is there a clear standout? Sorry if this is kind of a dumb question. I’ve never seen these girls play besides the occasional highlight reel. I’ve seen a lot of Flynn. Very dominate physically and can set the middles from 15ft off the net. I would pick her as the top setter, she’s like Rousseau at Northwestern but even better than her and would probably start right now if she was in college |
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 14, 2023 9:45:17 GMT -5
I take some comfort that if the race is between TX and Nebraska, that factor is a wash. Any incoming setter would be behind Swindle or Bergen Reilly. But they're fairly confident on the Husker thread on Flynn, so I'm not getting my hopes up. I saw last night that Jordan Larson started following Cari Spears and setter, Charolotte Glass on Instagram. Just my opinion, but no reason for Larson to follow Glass if Campbell Flynn was in the bag for the Huskers. Cook is adamant about wrapping up recruiting classes quickly. Obviously, he'll wait as long as it takes to land an elite talent he really wants, but he believes drawn out recruiting battles are only a distraction for the staff and coaches in preparing the team for the season. Just speaking to the setters, I wouldn't be surprised if he offers his top 2 or 3 immediately and the first one to jump gets the scholarship. That's always been his style, he did it last year with Reilly and Swindle. Urgency/limited time sales tactics can turn some people off, but it's tough to fault Cook when it's always worked for him. |
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Post by horns1 on Jun 14, 2023 9:55:10 GMT -5
I saw last night that Jordan Larson started following Cari Spears and setter, Charolotte Glass on Instagram. Just my opinion, but no reason for Larson to follow Glass if Campbell Flynn was in the bag for the Huskers. Cook is adamant about wrapping up recruiting classes quickly. Obviously, he'll wait as long as it takes to land an elite talent he really wants, but he believes drawn out recruiting battles are only a distraction for the staff and coaches in preparing the team for the season. Just speaking to the setters, I wouldn't be surprised if he offers his top 2 or 3 immediately and the first one to jump gets the scholarship. That's always been his style, he did it last year with Reilly and Swindle. Urgency/limited time sales tactics can turn some people off, but it's tough to fault Cook when it's always worked for him. I don't recall that, but I'll take your word for it; not that it matters, but that would have been 2 years ago. My understanding was that Swindle was not offered by Nebraska because of the confidence level NU coaches had in landing Reilly early. |
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Post by vbruh on Jun 14, 2023 10:05:12 GMT -5
It's 100% going to happen, and the reality is this is a "negotiation" between a seasoned 67yr old coach possibly the 🐐, along with the most effective recruiter in the country in Jaylen, versus a 16yr old girl who just got her driver's license. It's not a fair fight. NCAA should put in safeguards to protect the PSAs from this scenario, such as June 15-contact allowed but NO OFFERS ALLOWED...August 1-official visits NO OFFERS ALLOWED...October 1-OFFERS ALLOWED.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jun 14, 2023 10:18:59 GMT -5
It's 100% going to happen, and the reality is this is a "negotiation" between a seasoned 67yr old coach possibly the 🐐, along with the most effective recruiter in the country in Jaylen, versus a 16yr old girl who just got her driver's license. It's not a fair fight. NCAA should put in safeguards to protect the PSAs from this scenario, such as June 15-contact allowed but NO OFFERS ALLOWED...August 1-official visits NO OFFERS ALLOWED...October 1-OFFERS ALLOWED. Yes but no. This probably works in favor of top recruits, but screws PSAs at the lower tiers. I'm talking about players who are good, but they don't get extended offers until it becomes clear which 1st choice recruits have accepted and which haven't etc. And it doesn't prevent exploding offers on Aug 1. If it's the high-pressure tactic you object to, why not just ban exploding "whoever accepts first" offers? |
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Post by huskerjen on Jun 14, 2023 10:19:29 GMT -5
It's 100% going to happen, and the reality is this is a "negotiation" between a seasoned 67yr old coach possibly the 🐐, along with the most effective recruiter in the country in Jaylen, versus a 16yr old girl who just got her driver's license. It's not a fair fight. NCAA should put in safeguards to protect the PSAs from this scenario, such as June 15-contact allowed but NO OFFERS ALLOWED...August 1-official visits NO OFFERS ALLOWED...October 1-OFFERS ALLOWED. There is no one-size-fits-all. Many SAs and their parents want to get the recruiting process over with as quickly as possible. Some feel it's too fast and overwhelming. Many fall between those extremes. In the end, the coaches can't force a kid to commit or subsequently sign an NLI, so I don't see the problem. Student-athletes and their parents/families need to educate themselves on the process and be prepared. They can set whatever boundaries they like. Ultimately, they have most of the leverage. The only leverage coaches have is that they have limited scholarships which creates scarcity. |
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