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Post by blackiechan1999 on Aug 11, 2021 16:26:29 GMT -5
Even then she is a serviceable passer as well. Like an easy target or can pass? My bad she’s a ok passer at this stage in her career. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Aug 11, 2021 16:43:00 GMT -5
Like an easy target or can pass? My bad she’s a ok passer at this stage in her career. Two more years of club. She knows that she will have to prove herself to be a better passer. |
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Post by horns1 on Aug 11, 2021 16:49:32 GMT -5
So, assuming I'm looking at the right info out there, Sydney Helmers (another Sydney for Texas?) is a 6'4 OH from Assumption H.S. in Louisville, KY. Think we had a setter from Assumption many years ago, although she only stayed one or two years.
Guess she is club adidas KIVA teammates with MB Nya Bunton.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 21:21:05 GMT -5
Yes. The real decision isn't made until after the athlete's normal eligibility is exhausted. No decision made before then is binding, either by the athlete or the school. Remember that after the 21-22 academic year, any athlete that wants to return for their 5th (or 6th) year to use the "free" year must be offered a scholarship by the school and it will count against that sport's scholarship limit. I think a coach's job is hard enough without that uncertanty. Yikes. The post you are quoting is not accurate. Programs have already had these conversations with their juniors and seniors because coaches need to allocate scholarships and the kids need to know if there will be money available and decide if they want to do grad school. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Aug 12, 2021 11:44:06 GMT -5
Fall of 2023 Predictions
Historically, we will have a transfer/leave the team once a year.
Seniors - 2020 Recruits- depends if they take an extra year
1 S(1) - Cabello
2 OH(1) - Williams
3 OH(2) - Parra
4 L/DS(1) - Heinrich
5 L/DS(2) - Iosia
[O'Neal and Phillips could take 2023 as their extra year correct?]
Junior - 2021 Recruits:
6 MB (1) - Deandra Pierce (Austin, TX)
depends if she takes an extra year S - Saige Ka’aha’aina-Torres (Honolulu, HI) - transfer from Utah, 2 years of eligibility
Sophomore - 2022 Recruits
7 L/DS (3) - Emma Halter (Indianapolis, IN)
8 MB (2)- Marianna Singletary (Charleston, SC)
9 OH (3)- Kenna Miller (Justin, TX)
Freshman - 2023 Recruits
10 OPP (1) - Auburn Thomkinson (Carlsbad, CA)
11 OH (4) - Sydney Helmers (Louisville, KY)
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3 spots available as historically in the past couple of years, we've had 14/15 players in our roster:
2nd S - High Ranking Recruits Available - Ella Swindle
3rd MB - High Ranking Recruits Available - Mendleson/Byrd/Bunton
5th OH or 2nd Opp - High Ranking Recruits Available - Devin ('22)/Blyashov (Stanford Leaning)
4th L/DS - Walk-on?
Let me know what y'all think.
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Aug 12, 2021 12:18:48 GMT -5
Fall of 2023 Predictions Historically, we will have a transfer/leave the team once a year. Seniors - 2020 Recruits- depends if they take an extra year 1 S(1) - Cabello 2 OH(1) - Williams 3 OH(2) - Parra 4 L/DS(1) - Heinrich 5 L/DS(2) - Iosia [O'Neal and Phillips could take 2023 as their extra year correct?] Junior - 2021 Recruits: 6 MB (1) - Deandra Pierce (Austin, TX) depends if she takes an extra year S - Saige Ka’aha’aina-Torres (Honolulu, HI) - transfer from Utah, 2 years of eligibility Sophomore - 2022 Recruits 7 L/DS (3) - Emma Halter (Indianapolis, IN) 8 MB (2)- Marianna Singletary (Charleston, SC) 9 OH (3)- Kenna Miller (Justin, TX) Freshman - 2023 Recruits 10 OPP (1) - Auburn Thomkinson (Carlsbad, CA) 11 OH (4) - Sydney Helmers (Louisville, KY) 12 13 14 3 spots available as historically in the past couple of years, we've had 14/15 players in our roster: 2nd S - High Ranking Recruits Available - Ella Swindle/ Erin Cline 3rd MB - High Ranking Recruits Available - Mendleson/Byrd/Bunton 5th OH or 2nd Opp - High Ranking Recruits Available - Devin ('22)/Blyashov 4th L/DS - Walk-on? Let me know what y'all think. I’m pretty sure Cline is going to Oregon and Blyashov is probably going to Stanford. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Aug 12, 2021 12:42:24 GMT -5
Fall of 2023 Predictions Historically, we will have a transfer/leave the team once a year. Seniors - 2020 Recruits- depends if they take an extra year 1 S(1) - Cabello 2 OH(1) - Williams 3 OH(2) - Parra 4 L/DS(1) - Heinrich 5 L/DS(2) - Iosia [O'Neal and Phillips could take 2023 as their extra year correct?] Junior - 2021 Recruits: 6 MB (1) - Deandra Pierce (Austin, TX) depends if she takes an extra year S - Saige Ka’aha’aina-Torres (Honolulu, HI) - transfer from Utah, 2 years of eligibility Sophomore - 2022 Recruits 7 L/DS (3) - Emma Halter (Indianapolis, IN) 8 MB (2)- Marianna Singletary (Charleston, SC) 9 OH (3)- Kenna Miller (Justin, TX) Freshman - 2023 Recruits 10 OPP (1) - Auburn Thomkinson (Carlsbad, CA) 11 OH (4) - Sydney Helmers (Louisville, KY) 12 13 14 3 spots available as historically in the past couple of years, we've had 14/15 players in our roster: 2nd S - High Ranking Recruits Available - Ella Swindle/ Erin Cline 3rd MB - High Ranking Recruits Available - Mendleson/Byrd/Bunton 5th OH or 2nd Opp - High Ranking Recruits Available - Devin ('22)/Blyashov 4th L/DS - Walk-on? Let me know what y'all think. I’m pretty sure Cline is going to Oregon and Blyashov is probably going to Stanford. Good notes. I knew about Blyashov but not Cline. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Aug 12, 2021 12:50:42 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure Cline is going to Oregon and Blyashov is probably going to Stanford. Cristin Cline is the 2023 setter committed to Oregon. Did you mean Erin Kline from Legacy? She's a 2023 setter Erin Cline per my investigations on Prep Volley and VolleyMag |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Aug 12, 2021 13:33:53 GMT -5
Cristin Cline is the 2023 setter committed to Oregon. Did you mean Erin Kline from Legacy? She's a 2023 setter Erin Cline per my investigations on Prep Volley and VolleyMag Lol my bad 😅 |
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Post by volleyaudience on Aug 12, 2021 17:23:33 GMT -5
I think a coach's job is hard enough without that uncertanty. Yikes. The post you are quoting is not accurate. Programs have already had these conversations with their juniors and seniors because coaches need to allocate scholarships and the kids need to know if there will be money available and decide if they want to do grad school. You are correct. Understood. I wasn't responding to the previous quotes "details" or scholarships, just managing a larger group of people who think they have a great chance to start, more personalities, more people in the gym. That is what I think will be hard. IMO the best coaches will be ahead of others preparing his people for that. |
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Post by stevehorn on Aug 12, 2021 18:29:12 GMT -5
I think a coach's job is hard enough without that uncertanty. Yikes. The post you are quoting is not accurate. Programs have already had these conversations with their juniors and seniors because coaches need to allocate scholarships and the kids need to know if there will be money available and decide if they want to do grad school. That post was accurate. It's your reading comprehension that is not accurate. The key word in my post is "binding". "Conversations" are not binding and I feel quite safe in saying some players and some coaches will change their mind by the fall of 2022 and even moreso by the fall of 2023 and 2024. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 18:32:12 GMT -5
The post you are quoting is not accurate. Programs have already had these conversations with their juniors and seniors because coaches need to allocate scholarships and the kids need to know if there will be money available and decide if they want to do grad school. That post was accurate. It's your reading comprehension that is not accurate. The key word in my post is "binding". "Conversations" are not binding and I feel quite safe in saying some players and some coaches will change their mind by the fall of 2022 and even moreso by the fall of 2023 and 2024. You posted this: "The real decision isn't made until after the athlete's normal eligibility is exhausted." That is not accurate. |
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Post by stevehorn on Aug 12, 2021 18:38:45 GMT -5
That post was accurate. It's your reading comprehension that is not accurate. The key word in my post is "binding". "Conversations" are not binding and I feel quite safe in saying some players and some coaches will change their mind by the fall of 2022 and even moreso by the fall of 2023 and 2024. You posted this: "The real decision isn't made until after the athlete's normal eligibility is exhausted." That is not accurate. I disagree. IMO the real decision is the last one where it is binding and changing it at that point has tangible consequences for you. Also you are ignoring the totality of the point which includes the second sentence as well as the one you just quoted. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 18:41:42 GMT -5
You posted this: "The real decision isn't made until after the athlete's normal eligibility is exhausted." That is not accurate. I disagree. IMO the real decision is the last one where it is binding and changing it at that point has tangible consequences for you. Also you are ignoring the totality of the point which includes the second sentence as well as the one you just quoted. Disagree? I'm not giving you an opinion. For the same reason that Butler decided she wasn't returning before she had exhausted her eligibility, every player is looking ahead and deciding what they want to do before they have exhausted their eligibility. That is simply what is happening. |
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Post by stevehorn on Aug 12, 2021 18:50:10 GMT -5
I disagree. IMO the real decision is the last one where it is binding and changing it at that point has tangible consequences for you. Also you are ignoring the totality of the point which includes the second sentence as well as the one you just quoted. Disagree? I'm not giving you an opinion. For the same reason that Butler decided she wasn't returning before she had exhausted her eligibility, every player is looking ahead and deciding what they want to do before they have exhausted their eligibility. That is simply what is happening. Can Butler change still change her mind and decide to return? Yes When will she no longer be able to change her mind and decide to return? It possibly could be as late as next August as long as she hasn't turned pro and is still academically eligible. That date certainly hasn't passed. Will Elliott take her back if she decides to return? Most likely and if he doesn't, I feel safe in saying there will a long line of coaches willing to take her as a transfer. |
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