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Post by bballin on Sept 30, 2023 11:02:58 GMT -5
hehehe. Texas is a place for the best OHs in the country. 6 rotations is a bit mild, but spears would increase her offensive future at Texas and also have a good team experience which helps the college years be memorable. Wisconsin has become TRANSFER PORTAL UNIVERSITY which isn't attractive to freshman. They want to know their teammates and see who they will grow with as players. Though lots of teams are clearly using the portal, nobody flips teams as much as Wisconsin. They're basically running a pro level recruiting firm. I don't think Sheff is really even trying and fighting for '25 or '26 recruits out there. He is bringing in athletes from the portal..... it can get timid for 16 year olds to look at from the outside. I think people are viewing Sheff as a place that isn't trying to find young talent and develop it. He is grabbing juniors and seniors and trying to win his championships that way. I see lots of team chemistry issues this season.... it's hard to get kids to gel quickly on the court. Is he withilding freshman scholarships to wait on the portal? 🤔 JE has a great vibe as a coach, cares lots about a 4 year development with his recruits and works hard to set them up for their futures. LMAOOO, just say I'm a Nebraska fan and I have an irrational hatred for Wisconsin because they've owned us. Because ain't no other way your head could possibly justify calling Wisconsin a transfer university and then turn around, with a serious face, says JE "cares a lot about 4-year development with his recruits LOL. Right now, Texas has FIVE (!!) transfers as starters/DS in their preferred starting lineup (Bergmark, Akana, Barnes, Weenas, Skinner). Wisconsin has FOUR (Booth, TTA, Crawford, Franklin) despite playing in a 6-2 which requires more players LOL. Just in case you never learned math, 5 > 4. Texas won the title last year with literally All-Stars transfers all over in his lineup (Akana, Fleck, Skinner, Saige, Caffey). And I would certainly hope Sheff isn't out there trying for '26 recruits, because you know, that would be kinda illegal. Are you implying Nebraska and/or other top schools are already trying for '26 recruits? Damn, the NCAA needs to look into this. As for '25 recruits, you realize Wisconsin currently have a top 5 class right? And just had Sulli Davis, a top 10 OH recruit, on an official recruiting visit a couple weeks ago? And have Spears on another visit (hopefully soon)? And have the top setter in the class coming in for '24 next year? The one that just set USA in the finals to a reverse sweep at the U19 World Championship? Like, what is this terrible troll job LOL? You're missing one big difference here. ELLIOTT isn't witholding potential freshman scholarships for the grad transfers.... Scheff is hitting refresh on the transfer app 5 times a day Elliott is also not breaking rules on intra-conference transfers, when rules were in place. APPLYING FOR WAIVER AFTER WAIVER to cheat a system all other coaches follow. And how does that help the freshman under them? He also didn't hold back a whole class of kids, begging his 6th year seniors to play 1 extra year to actually have a shot at their only national title, which also had to have bent rules for them to win. And yes, every coach in the country is actively putting together their 26 classes right now. Attending club tournaments, etc... Scheff last few classes, have been saved by the portal, let's be honest.... his freshman classes aren't that grand. And this usa u19 setter you speak of, only set 1 match the whole tourney, I mean cmon. And she also never started that match either. So saying she was this mvp is a bit absurd. |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Sept 30, 2023 11:05:25 GMT -5
I don’t know what is happening here, but the original comment made awhile back definitely seemed sarcastic - we are just really wanting Spears to come here.
I don’t think any Texas fans actually believe she wouldn’t fit at Wisconsin.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Sept 30, 2023 11:09:03 GMT -5
I don’t know what is happening here, but the original comment made awhile back definitely seemed sarcastic - we are just really wanting Spears to come here. I don’t think any Texas fans actually believe she wouldn’t fit at Wisconsin. yeah im 99% sure it was because someone a while back said spears would be a good fit at wisconsin and we were like "well no duh, the top recruit(s) in every class are a good fit everywhere" |
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Post by 25or624 on Sept 30, 2023 11:20:20 GMT -5
LMAOOO, just say I'm a Nebraska fan and I have an irrational hatred for Wisconsin because they've owned us. Because ain't no other way your head could possibly justify calling Wisconsin a transfer university and then turn around, with a serious face, says JE "cares a lot about 4-year development with his recruits LOL. Right now, Texas has FIVE (!!) transfers as starters/DS in their preferred starting lineup (Bergmark, Akana, Barnes, Weenas, Skinner). Wisconsin has FOUR (Booth, TTA, Crawford, Franklin) despite playing in a 6-2 which requires more players LOL. Just in case you never learned math, 5 > 4. Texas won the title last year with literally All-Stars transfers all over in his lineup (Akana, Fleck, Skinner, Saige, Caffey). And I would certainly hope Sheff isn't out there trying for '26 recruits, because you know, that would be kinda illegal. Are you implying Nebraska and/or other top schools are already trying for '26 recruits? Damn, the NCAA needs to look into this. As for '25 recruits, you realize Wisconsin currently have a top 5 class right? And just had Sulli Davis, a top 10 OH recruit, on an official recruiting visit a couple weeks ago? And have Spears on another visit (hopefully soon)? And have the top setter in the class coming in for '24 next year? The one that just set USA in the finals to a reverse sweep at the U19 World Championship? Like, what is this terrible troll job LOL? You're missing one big difference here. ELLIOTT isn't witholding potential freshman scholarships for the grad transfers.... Scheff is hitting refresh on the transfer app 5 times a day Elliott is also not breaking rules on intra-conference transfers, when rules were in place. APPLYING FOR WAIVER AFTER WAIVER to cheat a system all other coaches follow. And how does that help the freshman under them? He also didn't hold back a whole class of kids, begging his 6th year seniors to play 1 extra year to actually have a shot at their only national title, which also had to have bent rules for them to win. And yes, every coach in the country is actively putting together their 26 classes right now. Attending club tournaments, etc... Scheff last few classes, have been saved by the portal, let's be honest.... his freshman classes aren't that grand. And this usa u19 setter you speak of, only set 1 match the whole tourney, I mean cmon. And she also never started that match either. So saying she was this mvp is a bit absurd. Get back to us when the NCAA takes some punitive measures against Sheffield. Until then, you are proof positive that Mother Gump was right: "Stupid is as stupid does". Carry on. |
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Sept 30, 2023 11:21:28 GMT -5
LMAOOO, just say I'm a Nebraska fan and I have an irrational hatred for Wisconsin because they've owned us. Because ain't no other way your head could possibly justify calling Wisconsin a transfer university and then turn around, with a serious face, says JE "cares a lot about 4-year development with his recruits LOL. Right now, Texas has FIVE (!!) transfers as starters/DS in their preferred starting lineup (Bergmark, Akana, Barnes, Weenas, Skinner). Wisconsin has FOUR (Booth, TTA, Crawford, Franklin) despite playing in a 6-2 which requires more players LOL. Just in case you never learned math, 5 > 4. Texas won the title last year with literally All-Stars transfers all over in his lineup (Akana, Fleck, Skinner, Saige, Caffey). And I would certainly hope Sheff isn't out there trying for '26 recruits, because you know, that would be kinda illegal. Are you implying Nebraska and/or other top schools are already trying for '26 recruits? Damn, the NCAA needs to look into this. As for '25 recruits, you realize Wisconsin currently have a top 5 class right? And just had Sulli Davis, a top 10 OH recruit, on an official recruiting visit a couple weeks ago? And have Spears on another visit (hopefully soon)? And have the top setter in the class coming in for '24 next year? The one that just set USA in the finals to a reverse sweep at the U19 World Championship? Like, what is this terrible troll job LOL? You're missing one big difference here. ELLIOTT isn't witholding potential freshman scholarships for the grad transfers.... Scheff is hitting refresh on the transfer app 5 times a day Elliott is also not breaking rules on intra-conference transfers, when rules were in place. APPLYING FOR WAIVER AFTER WAIVER to cheat a system all other coaches follow. And how does that help the freshman under them? He also didn't hold back a whole class of kids, begging his 6th year seniors to play 1 extra year to actually have a shot at their only national title, which also had to have bent rules for them to win. And yes, every coach in the country is actively putting together their 26 classes right now. Attending club tournaments, etc... Scheff last few classes, have been saved by the portal, let's be honest.... his freshman classes aren't that grand. And this usa u19 setter you speak of, only set 1 match the whole tourney, I mean cmon. And she also never started that match either. So saying she was this mvp is a bit absurd. No, please, where is your source that Sheff purposefully withhold potential freshman schollies for grad transfers LOL? He pursued Swindle, she chose Texas. He went after Ames, she chose Nebraska. He went after Elizabeth Andrews, she chose Stanford instead. Wucherer wanted a schollie promise from like middle school, and only Minnesota was willing to give that. Like, is he supposed to hold on to these schollies then instead of finding transfers for them LMAO? As for freshman classes, ok?? Smrek's class was composed of 4. Two have transferred out. Now, suddenly Wisconsin has two schollies and so they went to transfers. Now, Wisconsin has a freshman class (of 5) coming in for '24. And another of 4 (so far) coming in in '25. And Sheff didn't beg our 5th (not 6th) year seniors to stay LOL. They ALL would have redshirted the COVID spring season if the NCAA didn't give them one more year of eligibility. They also all individually decided to come back without ANY input from Sheff. Literally, this is in Dennis Punzel (our beat writer)'s book about the championship season. So unless you can have a source of them saying that Sheff asked them to stay, stop pulling %*$# out of your ass. Because they've all stated, on record, the opposite. As for Fuerbringer, she didn't start only because Jamie wanted a more physical team, not because she's bad like you're trying to imply LMAO. If anything, neutral observers of that tourney agrees she's a better setter in terms of location and OOS than Flynn. And she WAS one of the main reasons USA came back in the finals, after Flynn gave her a 10-point deficit in the first set to handle LMAO. And, no seriously, you're literally out here trying to claim Sheff and his staff aren't having internal talks about '26 recruits like everyone else? Is this a joke? We had several top '26 recruits at our Elite camp earlier this summer; I'm sorry where tf are you pulling these claims from besides your ass? Literally all of this is just a basically a deranged "WiScOnSiN SuCkS CuZ i SaY sO" with 0 actually legit points. |
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Post by bballin on Sept 30, 2023 11:23:10 GMT -5
You're missing one big difference here. ELLIOTT isn't witholding potential freshman scholarships for the grad transfers.... Scheff is hitting refresh on the transfer app 5 times a day Elliott is also not breaking rules on intra-conference transfers, when rules were in place. APPLYING FOR WAIVER AFTER WAIVER to cheat a system all other coaches follow. And how does that help the freshman under them? He also didn't hold back a whole class of kids, begging his 6th year seniors to play 1 extra year to actually have a shot at their only national title, which also had to have bent rules for them to win. And yes, every coach in the country is actively putting together their 26 classes right now. Attending club tournaments, etc... Scheff last few classes, have been saved by the portal, let's be honest.... his freshman classes aren't that grand. And this usa u19 setter you speak of, only set 1 match the whole tourney, I mean cmon. And she also never started that match either. So saying she was this mvp is a bit absurd. Get back to us when the NCAA takes some punitive measures against Sheffield. Until then, you are proof positive that Mother Gump was right: "Stupid is as stupid does". Carry on. Well..... I'm glad you're admitting the ncaa allowed for the violation of the rules for Barnes... |
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Sept 30, 2023 11:26:48 GMT -5
I don’t know what is happening here, but the original comment made awhile back definitely seemed sarcastic - we are just really wanting Spears to come here. I don’t think any Texas fans actually believe she wouldn’t fit at Wisconsin. Oh, I think we all realized in was tongue-in-cheeks, but the Nebraska fan then decided to take the chance to make false and fake claims about Wisconsin's program. Shame they don't have better things to do like watching Nebraska's highlights after Nebraska's youngins pulled out a tough 5-setter on the road last night. |
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Post by slxpress on Sept 30, 2023 12:21:31 GMT -5
I don’t want to be greedy. Either Spears or Harvey. But getting them both would send me to the moon and back. There’s certainly an opening there. With Ogbodu, Butler, and O’Neal making significant contributions to the national team this summer there’s never been a more impressive time to be recruiting a middle, and Texas has always been great at recruiting middles in any case. Not to mention coming off the national championship. Man, it would be so nice to beat both Stanford and Nebraska in a clear head to head recruiting battle. I won’t crumple if we lose her, but it would make me so excited to win this one. This is a good sign, no? I thought she already took her official visit during the Stanford match? Or was this it? Both Spears and Harvey we’re here on unofficial visits. The truth is I don’t know what it means. I was told about a month/month and a half ago that the original plan was to bring everyone in for their official for the Stanford match, but then it was determined they couldn’t bring recruits to the national championship banquet. I’m not trying to put myself out as an expert. I don’t know all the reasons or strategies. But it was decided to only bring in committed recruits and to then bring in Spears and Harvey on their own separate individual visits at a later time. So when Spears and Harvey showed up for the Stanford match and the unveiling of the new championship banner, I assumed it was an unofficial for both of them. But yes, the fact we’re able to bring both of them in for multiple visits is nothing but a good thing. It’s no coincidence both visits coincide with a football home game. You can see in the social media posts they make a big deal out of being on the field before the game. I’m sure part of it is playing into the ridiculous facilities the volleyball players have available to them under the stadium. Anyway, I hope we knock both of these visits out of the park, and while the ultimate goal is to close them and get them on campus, if we do end up coming in second on either recruitment I hope we make it as emotionally painful as possible to say no to Texas and the staff, and keep doors open if there is a change in heart somewhere down the line. As a salesperson there are some deals where the timing isn’t right, or the stars don’t align, but st the very least I could make it where the customer/client hated having to tell me “no.” Sometimes that’s the only victory we get. Not saying it’s the case here. We really need both of these players, so I hope they say yes to Texas. But if they don’t, I hope st least one of them does. |
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Post by slxpress on Sept 30, 2023 12:26:02 GMT -5
Spears would be a horrible fit for Wisconsin. May I ask what makes you say that? Just that you want her to go to Texas, or is there something specific? I was making a joke. Nothing more to it than that. It was a response to Wisconsin fans coming on to the Texas thread and talking about why Spears should come to Wisconsin. I don’t mind it at all. I was just having some fun with it as a response. In terms of recruiting I don’t think Wisconsin is quite at UT’s level, so it would be an exciting - and in my mind, surprising - recruiting victory for the Badgers if she decided on Madison over Austin. But if she’s making a visit Wisconsin has a chance. I firmly believe that. But a horrible fit? I don’t really mean that. I’m just being silly. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 30, 2023 15:20:27 GMT -5
May I ask what makes you say that? Just that you want her to go to Texas, or is there something specific? I was making a joke. Nothing more to it than that. It was a response to Wisconsin fans coming on to the Texas thread and talking about why Spears should come to Wisconsin. I don’t mind it at all. I was just having some fun with it as a response. In terms of recruiting I don’t think Wisconsin is quite at UT’s level, so it would be an exciting - and in my mind, surprising - recruiting victory for the Badgers if she decided on Madison over Austin. But if she’s making a visit Wisconsin has a chance. I firmly believe that. But a horrible fit? I don’t really mean that. I’m just being silly. Ah, that makes sense. I wasn’t trying to troll or start a flame war, despite the responses of some others - sometimes there’s an actual reason like academics or family location or whatever. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Sept 30, 2023 15:36:26 GMT -5
This is a good sign, no? I thought she already took her official visit during the Stanford match? Or was this it? Both Spears and Harvey we’re here on unofficial visits. The truth is I don’t know what it means. I was told about a month/month and a half ago that the original plan was to bring everyone in for their official for the Stanford match, but then it was determined they couldn’t bring recruits to the national championship banquet. I’m not trying to put myself out as an expert. I don’t know all the reasons or strategies. But it was decided to only bring in committed recruits and to then bring in Spears and Harvey on their own separate individual visits at a later time. So when Spears and Harvey showed up for the Stanford match and the unveiling of the new championship banner, I assumed it was an unofficial for both of them. But yes, the fact we’re able to bring both of them in for multiple visits is nothing but a good thing. It’s no coincidence both visits coincide with a football home game. You can see in the social media posts they make a big deal out of being on the field before the game. I’m sure part of it is playing into the ridiculous facilities the volleyball players have available to them under the stadium. Anyway, I hope we knock both of these visits out of the park, and while the ultimate goal is to close them and get them on campus, if we do end up coming in second on either recruitment I hope we make it as emotionally painful as possible to say no to Texas and the staff, and keep doors open if there is a change in heart somewhere down the line. As a salesperson there are some deals where the timing isn’t right, or the stars don’t align, but st the very least I could make it where the customer/client hated having to tell me “no.” Sometimes that’s the only victory we get. Not saying it’s the case here. We really need both of these players, so I hope they say yes to Texas. But if they don’t, I hope st least one of them does. Personally, I'm glad that both Spears and Harvey made a second visit after Stanford, that was not our best work. Lackluster play and loss aside, I was at the Stanford match and everything felt flat, atmosphere included. It was much better for Spears' visit for Washington State - even though we lost, the Greg was on fire that night. As for Harvey in this series against BYU, I'm not sure it could have gone any better - two gritty wins, flashes of brilliance, electric crowd. |
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Post by jwvolley on Sept 30, 2023 15:39:46 GMT -5
These things can always change of course, but I've heard Harvey isn't done with her stops in Lincoln either  lol this 3-team recruiting battle for her is entertaining. |
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Post by slxpress on Sept 30, 2023 16:03:26 GMT -5
I was making a joke. Nothing more to it than that. It was a response to Wisconsin fans coming on to the Texas thread and talking about why Spears should come to Wisconsin. I don’t mind it at all. I was just having some fun with it as a response. In terms of recruiting I don’t think Wisconsin is quite at UT’s level, so it would be an exciting - and in my mind, surprising - recruiting victory for the Badgers if she decided on Madison over Austin. But if she’s making a visit Wisconsin has a chance. I firmly believe that. But a horrible fit? I don’t really mean that. I’m just being silly. Ah, that makes sense. I wasn’t trying to troll or start a flame war, despite the responses of some others - sometimes there’s an actual reason like academics or family location or whatever. No. Wisconsin academics are certainly on par if not better than Texas as a public school. Spears went to high school in Texas but she moved recently from Washington D.C. so the brainwashing we do in this state didn’t occur in the formative stages. Both of her parents are LSU alumni - prominent alumni, actially, since her Dad was a stud college and NFL defensive tackle and her Mom was a gifted basketball player. Nope. Pure silliness. If I wanted to be a bit edgier I’d reference Sheffield visiting Spears in a match last year during the quiet period while Wisconsin was in the area playing at TCU. I do think the NCAA should bring the hammer down on that kind of behavior, because it does give coaches an unfair recruiting advantage when they’re willing to pay attention to a player in a way that no other coach is because it’s against the rules But that’s not actually about Sheffield. That’s about any coach. If the NCAA isn’t going to enforce the rule then I don’t see a problem with coaches doing it. By not enforcing it they’re tacitly saying it’s okay. |
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Post by horns1 on Sept 30, 2023 21:27:44 GMT -5
To think the use of one emoji to indicate a statement is a joke could have prevented all the back and forth in this thread the last 24 hours . . .
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Post by horns1 on Sept 30, 2023 21:32:32 GMT -5
Glad to read that Cari Spears has been in attendance for 3 home matches on three different weekends the month of September. That says a lot to me, especially as these visits are during her own high school volleyball season. These visits require time, including driving time from Dallas to Austin, and back. Based on her father's career, she could be taking unofficial visits to some of her other contenders (LSU or USC); but, it's Austin where she keeps appearing. I'm gonna take that as the most positive of signs for the Longhorns.
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