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Post by slxpress on Oct 18, 2023 17:48:44 GMT -5
there are also ig follows (both ways) from 2 texas volleyball coaches...that's all just interesting🤔 Love you keeping us in the loop. I'll think of you when something transpires. I agree, it sounds interesting. BTW, I think she can be in the gym regardless. She just can't play in actual matches without a scholarship in volleyball - unless, like eyeroll2021 pointed out, she doesn't have a scholarship in either one, which would be difficult for me to believe. |
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Post by horns1 on Oct 21, 2023 14:53:33 GMT -5
I still believe re-classifying to begin competing/training one year earlier in college is going to become more common in women's sports . . .
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Post by slxpress on Oct 21, 2023 15:36:53 GMT -5
I still believe re-classifying to begin competing/training one year earlier in college is going to become more common in women's sports . . . I agree with you. And I'm still going to maintain there's an opportunity cost where you're giving up a year of eligibility where there's a greater physical advantage for a year where you're physically less mature. And that's going to continue to be part of the decision making process as well. |
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Post by dl3ww on Oct 21, 2023 16:25:33 GMT -5
I still believe re-classifying to begin competing/training one year earlier in college is going to become more common in women's sports . . . I agree with you. And I'm still going to maintain there's an opportunity cost where you're giving up a year of eligibility where there's a greater physical advantage for a year where you're physically less mature. And that's going to continue to be part of the decision making process as well. I think the problem is thinking that most of them are reclassifying to play a year early, rather than them reclassifying to get an extra year of practice/experience in and still redshirting. |
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Post by horns1 on Oct 21, 2023 16:45:16 GMT -5
I agree with you. And I'm still going to maintain there's an opportunity cost where you're giving up a year of eligibility where there's a greater physical advantage for a year where you're physically less mature. And that's going to continue to be part of the decision making process as well. I think the problem is thinking that most of them are reclassifying to play a year early, rather than them reclassifying to get an extra year of practice/experience in and still redshirting. I can see different viewpoints. coaches: we get this player "signed" and on our campus one year earlier; don't have to worry about continuing to recruit them a year earlier, put up with them taking more visits to other schools, and changing their mind late in the process. Once on campus, we'll see if they can help us immediately. player: developing earlier due to better coaching and training; playing earlier (or if redshirting, no later than if they had stayed in high school); completing education/degree earlier; earning a salary earlier |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 21, 2023 16:46:35 GMT -5
I agree with you. And I'm still going to maintain there's an opportunity cost where you're giving up a year of eligibility where there's a greater physical advantage for a year where you're physically less mature. And that's going to continue to be part of the decision making process as well. I think the problem is thinking that most of them are reclassifying to play a year early, rather than them reclassifying to get an extra year of practice/experience in and still redshirting. Well, my comparison would be reclassifying to compete a year early versus entering school in the spring to get extra practice. One uses up a year of eligibility. The other keeps the same type of eligibility for a fall sport, with an extra semester of training practice. Basketball being fall/spring is different. There's not the same incentive to enroll in the spring, because the season is half over. Early spring enrollment across all fall sports keeps increasing. Including volleyball. Even schools like Rice and Stanford are trying to figure out ways to bring in a limited number of spring enrollees in football. Reclassifying to enroll in the fall has a different opportunity cost. |
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Post by hornshouse23 on Oct 21, 2023 18:18:14 GMT -5
Not paying for club for a year + being paid and getting superior training. I can see why it would be a good decision for some.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 21, 2023 19:04:39 GMT -5
Not paying for club for a year + being paid and getting superior training. I can see why it would be a good decision for some. I can see enrolling early and/or reclassifying as being really important for injury prevention too. HS and club teams play way too much, don't give any breaks and don't do a good job with load management as they go from chasing a league/district/state title to power league/qualifier/JO title. This is especially hard on top pin hitters as they take soooooo many swings. Especially for college freshman, once they get done with club in July. . . well then they arrive on campus and need to adjust to a whole nother level of competition - so end up grinding hard even in open gym even before official camp starts. So many players end up broken with overuse by the time they hit college, if they can off-ramp from the grind a season early and get to a program with load management it will help them. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 21, 2023 19:17:30 GMT -5
Isn't reclassifying going to be limited by the availability of scholarships? For a top program like Nebraska, Texas etc the pipeline is such that all scholarships are already allocated? Unless the reclassifying player agrees to go on NIL/walk-on status that year - in which case, what does that do for the 4-year scholarship guarantee (which I thought was based upon whether or not you started on scholarship)
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Post by horns1 on Oct 21, 2023 20:33:09 GMT -5
Isn't reclassifying going to be limited by the availability of scholarships? For a top program like Nebraska, Texas etc the pipeline is such that all scholarships are already allocated? Unless the reclassifying player agrees to go on NIL/walk-on status that year - in which case, what does that do for the 4-year scholarship guarantee (which I thought was based upon whether or not you started on scholarship) A program would most likely need to have an open scholarship. Perhaps some programs have the support of NIL ventures that would cover expenses equivalent to a full scholarship for an unexpected (one year) early enrollee. Texas won't sign any 2024 recruits to scholarships next month; but, that doesn't necessarily mean we have an open scholarship depending on our expected scholarship distribution for next season. We do know that there is typically some offseason attrition that results in some scholarship players leaving; but, those seem to go immediately to incoming transfers. Glad the coaches are the ones who manage the (scholarship) roster across 4-5 recruiting classes. |
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Post by hookem1 on Oct 26, 2023 11:20:22 GMT -5
Do we think it’s too early to start discussing 2026 prospects here considering the title? I have some thoughts on potential Texas targets so far, should that be for a different thread?
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Post by slxpress on Oct 26, 2023 11:31:08 GMT -5
Do we think it’s too early to start discussing 2026 prospects here considering the title? I have some thoughts on potential Texas targets so far, should that be for a different thread? I feel strongly that’s exactly what this thread is for. If you have any thoughts I’d love to read them. At some point hornfanaustin starts another thread on Texas recruiting. The main reason - *I think* - he combined 2024 and 2025 is because 2024 wasn’t as active a year for recruiting purposes as most. But usually it’s an annual thing. Our threads are so active compared to most other programs the recruiting news can quickly get lost on the main thread, so it’s helpful to have a separate thread for it. In any case I say go for it. I’ve seen some 2026 stuff on here already, but I’d love to read what you have to share. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 26, 2023 11:33:52 GMT -5
Do we think it’s too early to start discussing 2026 prospects here considering the title? I have some thoughts on potential Texas targets so far, should that be for a different thread? What's on the priority list? - setter - MB x2 ? |
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Post by gofaster88 on Oct 26, 2023 11:39:47 GMT -5
Isn't reclassifying going to be limited by the availability of scholarships? For a top program like Nebraska, Texas etc the pipeline is such that all scholarships are already allocated? Unless the reclassifying player agrees to go on NIL/walk-on status that year - in which case, what does that do for the 4-year scholarship guarantee (which I thought was based upon whether or not you started on scholarship) A program would most likely need to have an open scholarship. Perhaps some programs have the support of NIL ventures that would cover expenses equivalent to a full scholarship for an unexpected (one year) early enrollee. Texas won't sign any 2024 recruits to scholarships next month; but, that doesn't necessarily mean we have an open scholarship depending on our expected scholarship distribution for next season. We do know that there is typically some offseason attrition that results in some scholarship players leaving; but, those seem to go immediately to incoming transfers. Glad the coaches are the ones who manage the (scholarship) roster across 4-5 recruiting classes. 4 year scholarship guarantees do not exist. Schools can and do pull scholarships whenever they want. Hell, a new coaching staff can come in and tell you, you're out. Look at Colorado Football and Deion Sanders. It's 12 scholarships and most schools carry nearly 20+ kids nowadays. Scholarships are on a year by year basis. |
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Post by hookem1 on Oct 26, 2023 11:43:58 GMT -5
Do we think it’s too early to start discussing 2026 prospects here considering the title? I have some thoughts on potential Texas targets so far, should that be for a different thread? What's on the priority list? - setter - MB x2 ? MB number will depend on how many we add via the portal/if we get 1 of our 2025 targets or both. (I strongly see a portal MB happening this off-season. Don’t think we go into next year with only 2 middles, neither of which have long term starting experience) |
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