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Post by slxpress on Oct 26, 2023 11:50:05 GMT -5
A program would most likely need to have an open scholarship. Perhaps some programs have the support of NIL ventures that would cover expenses equivalent to a full scholarship for an unexpected (one year) early enrollee. Texas won't sign any 2024 recruits to scholarships next month; but, that doesn't necessarily mean we have an open scholarship depending on our expected scholarship distribution for next season. We do know that there is typically some offseason attrition that results in some scholarship players leaving; but, those seem to go immediately to incoming transfers. Glad the coaches are the ones who manage the (scholarship) roster across 4-5 recruiting classes. 4 year scholarship guarantees do not exist. Schools can and do pull scholarships whenever they want. Hell, a new coaching staff can come in and tell you, you're out. Look at Colorado Football and Deion Sanders. It's 12 scholarships and most schools carry nearly 20+ kids nowadays. Scholarships are on a year by year basis. Hmmm. Kind of. Look, Coaches have an incredible amount of power and influence over kids’ choices. If they want to run you off it takes a special kind of person to stick it out anyway, and the player’s experience is pretty much guaranteed to be miserable. In almost all cases they’re ostracized by their teammates. It’s terrible. But the fact is there are conferences and schools that require a commitment in writing in terms of scholarship money for periods longer than a year. I’ve never heard of it being put before a court of law, but I have heard of administrations choosing to honor scholarships that coaches wanted to pull. But if you’re there to play a sport and it’s something you enjoy and/or identify with, if you know the coach is never going to play you and will make your life a living hell, why stay in this age of the transfer portal if you don’t have to? It is a cut throat environment and always has been, but the way the National letter of intent and scholarship agreements are written these days, it’s not as brutal as it used to be in many cases. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Oct 26, 2023 11:51:48 GMT -5
What's on the priority list? - setter - MB x2 ? MB number will depend on how many we add via the portal/if we get 1 of our 2025 targets or both. (I strongly see a portal MB happening this off-season. Don’t think we go into next year with only 2 middles, neither of which have long term starting experience) for their last year of eligibility. It's the last COVID year for the 2020 freshies. I wonder who will end up like Caffey or Bergmark. With Singletary and Bunton as our only MBs, we are desperate for next season y'all. |
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Post by hookem1 on Oct 26, 2023 11:57:26 GMT -5
My first thought is 2026 is a LOADED class in the state of Texas, so there’s a lot of focus there similar to 2025 along with our usual national recruiting as well that we’ve seen in 2023 and 2022. Elliott has proven he can and will recruit wherever he finds his targets whether it’s in-state or across the country.
A breakdown of our recruits by home state by year to illustrate this point.
2022 Indiana, Hawaii, South Carolina, Texas x2 (probable walk ons)
2023 California, Florida, Kentucky x2, Missouri
8 out of state players in 2 classes
2024 Hawaii, Texas x2 (All probable walk ons, 1 on partial scholarship?)
2025 Illinois, Texas x3
2 out of state players in 2 classes so far
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 26, 2023 12:01:13 GMT -5
MB number will depend on how many we add via the portal/if we get 1 of our 2025 targets or both. (I strongly see a portal MB happening this off-season. Don’t think we go into next year with only 2 middles, neither of which have long term starting experience) for their last year of eligibility. It's the last COVID year for the 2020 freshies. I wonder who will end up like Caffey or Bergmark. With Singletary and Bunton as our only MBs, we are desperate for next season y'all. Sophie Fischer from Georgia will be on her COVID year and Madi already has an in with her. . . Also, who's the second 2025 MB target? I only know about Harvey |
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Post by hookem1 on Oct 26, 2023 12:18:37 GMT -5
for their last year of eligibility. It's the last COVID year for the 2020 freshies. I wonder who will end up like Caffey or Bergmark. With Singletary and Bunton as our only MBs, we are desperate for next season y'all. Sophie Fischer from Georgia will be on her COVID year and Madi already has an in with her. . . Also, who's the second 2025 MB target? I only know about Harvey Harvey is the top target but Texas has also looked at Kiana Landers (AZ Storm) who attended Texas camp in 2022. Most of the others have committed elsewhere now. |
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Post by hornfanaustin on Oct 26, 2023 12:42:59 GMT -5
Do we think it’s too early to start discussing 2026 prospects here considering the title? I have some thoughts on potential Texas targets so far, should that be for a different thread? I feel strongly that’s exactly what this thread is for. If you have any thoughts I’d love to read them. At some point hornfanaustin starts another thread on Texas recruiting. The main reason - *I think* - he combined 2024 and 2025 is because 2024 wasn’t as active a year for recruiting purposes as most. But usually it’s an annual thing. Our threads are so active compared to most other programs the recruiting news can quickly get lost on the main thread, so it’s helpful to have a separate thread for it. In any case I say go for it. I’ve seen some 2026 stuff on here already, but I’d love to read what you have to share. Just FYI, I started this thread because the original Texas recruiting thread was started by one of the big Hawaiian mods. And because that mod was busy with everything else, there was no update to the first page showing who was committed to Texas, even after sending DMs and asking for it as a comment.
So, I started one and I decided to make it cover two years. And when the play calendar shifts (the recruits start school in the Fall), I shift the dates in the title of this thread.
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Post by slxpress on Oct 26, 2023 13:24:29 GMT -5
I feel strongly that’s exactly what this thread is for. If you have any thoughts I’d love to read them. At some point hornfanaustin starts another thread on Texas recruiting. The main reason - *I think* - he combined 2024 and 2025 is because 2024 wasn’t as active a year for recruiting purposes as most. But usually it’s an annual thing. Our threads are so active compared to most other programs the recruiting news can quickly get lost on the main thread, so it’s helpful to have a separate thread for it. In any case I say go for it. I’ve seen some 2026 stuff on here already, but I’d love to read what you have to share. Just FYI, I started this thread because the original Texas recruiting thread was started by one of the big Hawaiian mods. And because that mod was busy with everything else, there was no update to the first page showing who was committed to Texas, even after sending DMs and asking for it as a comment.
So, I started one and I decided to make it cover two years. And when the play calendar shifts (the recruits start school in the Fall), I shift the dates in the title of this thread.
Well, whatever you’re doing I’m all for it. I remember a notorious member of the community tried to start the official new Texas thread and I’m like, “Nope. That’s hornfanaustin. He’s our annual Texas thread starter.” Too many opportunities for shenanigans or neglect otherwise. |
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Post by vbgeezer on Oct 26, 2023 14:32:31 GMT -5
Regarding the discussion of BYU from a couple of days ago, I don't think the BYU women's volleyball (or other sports teams) have many players that are significantly older than normal. While about 25% of all Mormon missionaries today are women, serving is totally voluntary, and Mormon women with significant athletic talent traditionally go straight from high school to college. It is much different for Mormon men (and BYU men's sports). Going on mission is still expected and there is social pressure to volunteer. This accounts for a significant portion of BYU male athletes competing at age 23 to 25.
If I understand a bit of Mormon history, when Mormonism began in the 19th century, Mormon men were allowed (and encouraged) to have multiple wives. The older Mormon men often married teenage girls, reducing the prospects for young Mormon men to marry women of their own age. Sending their young men out into the world for a few years reduced the level of conflict/competition between older vs. young men, and the young men frequently encounter non-Mormon women that become their wives, allowing them to more smoothly re-enter the fold and spreading their faith. Plural marriages were officially banned after 1904, but the practice still exists in a few rogue communities.
In order for missionaries to convert non-Mormons, they must learn the language of the host country they are sent to. There are a large number of people in Utah that are able to fluently read/write/speak relatively obscure languages, a talent pool that many software/technology companies have been tapping into. Many of us that reside in Austin appreciate this.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 26, 2023 14:34:39 GMT -5
Regarding the discussion of BYU from a couple of days ago, I don't think the BYU women's volleyball (or other sports teams) have many players that are significantly older than normal. While about 25% of all Mormon missionaries today are women, serving is totally voluntary, and Mormon women with significant athletic talent traditionally go straight from high school to college. It is much different for Mormon men (and BYU men's sports). Going on mission is still expected and there is social pressure to volunteer. This accounts for a significant portion of BYU male athletes competing at age 23 to 25. If I understand a bit of Mormon history, when Mormonism began in the 19th century, Mormon men were allowed (and encouraged) to have multiple wives. The older Mormon men often married teenage girls, reducing the prospects for young Mormon men to marry women of their own age. Sending their young men out into the world for a few years reduced the level of conflict/competition between older vs. young men, and the young men frequently encounter non-Mormon women that become their wives, allowing them to more smoothly re-enter the fold and spreading their faith. Plural marriages were officially banned after 1904, but the practice still exists in a few rogue communities. In order for missionaries to convert non-Mormons, they must learn the language of the host country they are sent to. There are a large number of people in Utah that are able to fluently read/write/speak relatively obscure languages, a talent pool that many software/technology companies have been tapping into. Many of us that reside in Austin appreciate this. what is the rule for age? tali hakas is 21 i think for hawaii, as a freshman. Will she really be allowed to play all four years? can anyone of any age techincally play? even as an adult, if they are a freshman? |
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Post by katn on Oct 26, 2023 16:34:52 GMT -5
kennedy washington mb, she is available the class of '24...she's an undersized middle 6'0...she recently decommitted from san diego...spears' high school teammate...she was fun to watch on espnu recently sportsrecruits.com/athlete/kennedy_washington2 |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 26, 2023 18:54:52 GMT -5
kennedy washington mb, she is available the class of '24...she's an undersized middle 6'0...she recently decommitted from san diego...spears' high school teammate...she was fun to watch on espnu recently sportsrecruits.com/athlete/kennedy_washington2I know we had Caffey for a year, but it sure is tough for me to see Elliott bring in an undersized middle out of high school. I think that would be worse than him bringing in another undersized OH, which I don’t think he should do any more, either. |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 26, 2023 19:07:05 GMT -5
I see clips of Chiaka cousin Maya.
HOLY MOLY
It borderline not fair for her school team. These girls are still learning the basics at times and shes hitting harder than some kids in college
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Post by horns1 on Oct 27, 2023 8:54:55 GMT -5
for their last year of eligibility. It's the last COVID year for the 2020 freshies. I wonder who will end up like Caffey or Bergmark. With Singletary and Bunton as our only MBs, we are desperate for next season y'all. Sophie Fischer from Georgia will be on her COVID year and Madi already has an in with her. . . Also, who's the second 2025 MB target? I only know about Harvey My memory is not what it used to be (j/k), but I recall when Fischer decommitted from North Carolina she considered Texas and Nebraska, in addition to Kentucky. I'd guess she also has a relationship with Jerritt and Sully. I just don't recall if she ever visited Texas at any time. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Oct 27, 2023 9:13:10 GMT -5
Sophie Fischer from Georgia will be on her COVID year and Madi already has an in with her. . . Also, who's the second 2025 MB target? I only know about Harvey My memory is not what it used to be (j/k), but I recall when Fischer decommitted from North Carolina she considered Texas and Nebraska, in addition to Kentucky. I'd guess she also has a relationship with Jerritt and Sully. I just don't recall if she ever visited Texas at any time. Well she did during last year's tournament, lol. Played pretty well too |
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Post by horns1 on Oct 27, 2023 9:45:07 GMT -5
My memory is not what it used to be (j/k), but I recall when Fischer decommitted from North Carolina she considered Texas and Nebraska, in addition to Kentucky. I'd guess she also has a relationship with Jerritt and Sully. I just don't recall if she ever visited Texas at any time. Well she did during last year's tournament, lol. Played pretty well too I miss watching the Georgia libero's hilarious celebrations!  Thanks for making me remember them this morning! |
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Thanks for making me remember them this morning!