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Post by jake on Aug 1, 2020 10:45:55 GMT -5
The first real "Command Decision" by our new Commish is to call a retreat. Just brilliant!!! Has the 11 school conference resolved postseason play with the NCAA? Or has the Big West Conference, its new Commish and the Board of Directors resigned themselves to sitting it out this season? Just brilliant!!! Define "resolved postseason play"? Unless the proposed fall season is suddenly abandoned, the NCAA tournament is scheduled for the fall. The BW will not be participating. So yes, that's been resolved. NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 14:30:04 GMT -5
Define "resolved postseason play"? Unless the proposed fall season is suddenly abandoned, the NCAA tournament is scheduled for the fall. The BW will not be participating. So yes, that's been resolved. NOT ACCEPTABLE!!! I don't know what you were expecting Jake. Truth is, unless the situation improves dramatically, I expect the 'postponement' to become a cancellation. Cal Poly and others simply don't have the resources to run sports during a pandemic.
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Post by jake on Aug 1, 2020 18:10:13 GMT -5
I don't know what you were expecting Jake. Truth is, unless the situation improves dramatically, I expect the 'postponement' to become a cancellation. Cal Poly and others simply don't have the resources to run sports during a pandemic. Obviously, nothing in today's world is engraved in stone and all can change overnite. Nevertheless, the BWC must keep pace with other conferences and certainly follow what the NCAA prescribes when it comes to postseason play. Every lady that plays D1 WVB has one desire to be playing at the end of conference schedule in the postseason. I am sure Butter-nut realizes that fact,...he's been around long enough.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 18:16:17 GMT -5
I don't know what you were expecting Jake. Truth is, unless the situation improves dramatically, I expect the 'postponement' to become a cancellation. Cal Poly and others simply don't have the resources to run sports during a pandemic. Obviously, nothing in today's world is engraved in stone and all can change overnite. Nevertheless, the BWC must keep pace with other conferences and certainly follow what the NCAA prescribes when it comes to postseason play. Every lady that plays D1 WVB has one desire to be playing at the end of conference schedule in the postseason. I am sure Butter-nut realizes that fact,...he's been around long enough. You're not getting it Jake: the BW schools cannot afford to run fall sports in the current situation. The expenses are too much to carry and the returns would be minimal. Unless the NCAA moves the season (which they should, but seem reluctant to do) there will be no BW schools in the tournament this year. It has nothing to do with Dan Butterly.
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Post by jake on Aug 2, 2020 12:08:22 GMT -5
Obviously, nothing in today's world is engraved in stone and all can change overnite. Nevertheless, the BWC must keep pace with other conferences and certainly follow what the NCAA prescribes when it comes to postseason play. Every lady that plays D1 WVB has one desire to be playing at the end of conference schedule in the postseason. I am sure Butter-nut realizes that fact,...he's been around long enough. You're not getting it Jake: the BW schools cannot afford to run fall sports in the current situation. The expenses are too much to carry and the returns would be minimal. Unless the NCAA moves the season (which they should, but seem reluctant to do) there will be no BW schools in the tournament this year. It has nothing to do with Dan Butterly. Perhaps I don't,...enlighten me!!! Even in a normal year no BWC team operates their program in the "black",...all with the exception of UH must subsides the sport. Besides COVID testing that would most likely be periodic,...a number of masks,...no ticket sales to speak of and cut out the flts. to Hawaii (optional). What else??? UH will remain on the mainland for some two months,...using one of the BWC schools as their home court for matches and practicing for the season. The cost for this may need to be shared by all 11 conference schools. Saving $$$ Many of the matches could be doubled-up. IOW's just as in tournament play two per day. The SoCal schools are so close not a problem. Thinking Outside the Box The Commish and his Board need to work on coming up with other means for creating 'cash flow' during this time. Since these will be non-spectator matches,...better media coverage include advertising for revenue. Conclusion The cost of operation for BWC WVB will not change if the matches on played in the fall or in January, IMO! My guess the conference big wigs will continue to postpone,...til cancellation.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Aug 2, 2020 12:16:53 GMT -5
You're not getting it Jake: the BW schools cannot afford to run fall sports in the current situation. The expenses are too much to carry and the returns would be minimal. Unless the NCAA moves the season (which they should, but seem reluctant to do) there will be no BW schools in the tournament this year. It has nothing to do with Dan Butterly. Perhaps I don't,...enlighten me!!! It's over; a done deal: get over it! The only thing is to change this to " CAL POLY 2021".
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Post by HawaiiVB on Aug 2, 2020 14:50:26 GMT -5
Jake, I'm sorry to say, but even if your creative solution was approved, there would be blowback from the rest of the campus because of the optics. If you are not aware, most campuses struggle with competing views as to how to spend institutional dollars. On one hand, the academia mafia would like nothing better than to do away with spending any dollars on athletics. some feel that those monies could be used towards other academic endeavors. Of course, the stalwart supporters of school athletics provide stiff opposition to that notion. When something like this Pandemic hits, everyone wants to protect its side. The optics in a situation where the money pool is tight will always side with conservation. I recently believe that all schools both private and public would benefit if the athletic department was managed more like a business. That freedom to provide its own source of economic independence would solve a lot of the money problem.
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Post by jake on Aug 3, 2020 15:54:31 GMT -5
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Post by jake on Aug 6, 2020 13:12:15 GMT -5
With fall practice normally underway,...now a projected start date into January 2021.
What does CAL POLY's WVB team do for the next 150 days???
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Post by HawaiiVB on Aug 6, 2020 14:40:34 GMT -5
With fall practice normally underway,...now a projected start date into January 2021. What does CAL POLY's WVB team do for the next 150 days??? Not sure what was officially stated. As someone said previously, some schools are having individual training.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 6, 2020 14:49:59 GMT -5
With fall practice normally underway,...now a projected start date into January 2021. What does CAL POLY's WVB team do for the next 150 days??? Uh...I don't know...maybe take classes, study, and earn credits toward a degree?
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Post by jake on Aug 7, 2020 11:34:25 GMT -5
With fall practice normally underway,...now a projected start date into January 2021. What does CAL POLY's WVB team do for the next 150 days??? Uh...I don't know...maybe take classes, study, and earn credits toward a degree? Dah,...sure! Pretty much goes without saying,...or it should anyway. I like the private training scenario,...off campus or on campus facilities? Where they are permitted. I am still in the dark about the different conference starts. Should the NCAA come forward and set dates in the spring (June 2021) when postseason play will start??? Assuming all conferences have completed their schedules and ONE conference champ announced to compete for Championship 2020!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 12:04:56 GMT -5
Uh...I don't know...maybe take classes, study, and earn credits toward a degree? Dah,...sure! Pretty much goes without saying,...or it should anyway. I like the private training scenario,...off campus or on campus facilities? Where they are permitted. I am still in the dark about the different conference starts. Should the NCAA come forward and set dates in the spring (June 2021) when postseason play will start??? Assuming all conferences have completed their schedules and ONE conference champ announced to compete for Championship 2020!!! I don't know how many more ways there are to tell you this, Jake. There will be no Big West season until teams aren't required to test weekly. The BW cannot afford that. Per the NCAA's announcement, if a Division doesn't have participation from 50% of the schools for that sport, they will cancel the championships. I cannot imagine them reinstating those championships until the financial burden of testing changes significantly because, even if they did, those schools (Like Poly) still won't be able to afford testing in the spring. What I think is MORE likely, if the NCAA cancels WVB is that the P5 will go it alone, on the grounds that they can afford testing, and hold their own championship. Again, this is about money (as it always is). The only way the BW get a season is if the virus changes course and even then, without the P5, there won't be a championship.
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Post by jake on Aug 8, 2020 12:22:08 GMT -5
Dah,...sure! Pretty much goes without saying,...or it should anyway. I like the private training scenario,...off campus or on campus facilities? Where they are permitted. I am still in the dark about the different conference starts. Should the NCAA come forward and set dates in the spring (June 2021) when postseason play will start??? Assuming all conferences have completed their schedules and ONE conference champ announced to compete for Championship 2020!!! I don't know how many more ways there are to tell you this, Jake. There will be no Big West season until teams aren't required to test weekly. The BW cannot afford that. Per the NCAA's announcement, if a Division doesn't have participation from 50% of the schools for that sport, they will cancel the championships. I cannot imagine them reinstating those championships until the financial burden of testing changes significantly because, even if they did, those schools (Like Poly) still won't be able to afford testing in the spring. What I think is MORE likely, if the NCAA cancels WVB is that the P5 will go it alone, on the grounds that they can afford testing, and hold their own championship. Again, this is about money (as it always is). The only way the BW get a season is if the virus changes course and even then, without the P5, there won't be a championship. Your pessimism is enlightening bwf2! Right now the BWConference is playing a delaying game, IMO. The hope is a vaccine will be developed in time,...testing won't even be a factor. I also believe by the spring testing (should it become necessary) will be very easy and extremely less costly. That should make at least 50% of the schools in the BWC competing. There is already discussion on a test with results in 20 minutes. Of course, these scenarios will not ONLY apply to WVB, but, all sports! Because all college sports will probably be played in the spring. I am convinced this is what will happen,...!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2020 13:05:14 GMT -5
I don't know how many more ways there are to tell you this, Jake. There will be no Big West season until teams aren't required to test weekly. The BW cannot afford that. Per the NCAA's announcement, if a Division doesn't have participation from 50% of the schools for that sport, they will cancel the championships. I cannot imagine them reinstating those championships until the financial burden of testing changes significantly because, even if they did, those schools (Like Poly) still won't be able to afford testing in the spring. What I think is MORE likely, if the NCAA cancels WVB is that the P5 will go it alone, on the grounds that they can afford testing, and hold their own championship. Again, this is about money (as it always is). The only way the BW get a season is if the virus changes course and even then, without the P5, there won't be a championship. Your pessimism is enlightening bwf2! Right now the BWConference is playing a delaying game, IMO. The hope is a vaccine will be developed in time,...testing won't even be a factor. I also believe by the spring testing (should it become necessary) will be very easy and extremely less costly. That should make at least 50% of the schools in the BWC competing. There is already discussion on a test with results in 20 minutes. Of course, these scenarios will not ONLY apply to WVB, but, all sports! Because all college sports will probably be played in the spring. I am convinced this is what will happen,...! My commentary on the limitations of the BW isn't pessimism, Jake. It comes directly from several coaches with the conference. Your predictions and conviction not withstanding, I'm not going to comment on what might happen regarding a vaccine. I'm just letting you know the reasons behind what has happened.
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