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Post by horns1 on Apr 3, 2021 16:44:25 GMT -5
True. Texas hasn't shown exceptional recruiting at L/DS in forever. Don't worry about Texas. We'll be just fine . . . and "forever" . . . |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Apr 3, 2021 16:55:57 GMT -5
Anyone heard any updates for landing spots with Tuaniga or Fuentes?
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Post by babybacksets on Apr 3, 2021 17:06:46 GMT -5
I get that there was a for sure setting drought at different points of Sealy’s tenure but i just think it’s speculative to say that each setter that has gone through his program had an abject failure of a career. But I guess when you come from a place of high standards for the UCLA volleyball program, that individual would feel that way. However, when you just come from a “Sealy sucks” position. I simply can take that seriously. I’m not interested in anyone’s personal grievances against him as a coach. Average seasons don’t equal a terrible coach and again it’s not like any of these VT people are in direct communication with any of those mentioned setters. As douchey as it sounds, i try to deal in facts not feelings. Your reading comprehension is terrible. Here are some facts for you: there have been 4 highly-recruited setters (aka Top 20 national overall recruits) in Sealy's tenure - Moenoa, Strehlow, Muno, MIller. Zero of turned out to be great setters at UCLA, and most of them ended up losing the job to a less heralded transfer. Strehlow and Miller both transferred out ad proved to be way better at other schools once they left UCLA. When UCLA has been most successful under Sealy, it's when he's had a mid-major transfer running the team (Van Orden, Chandler, Sponcil, Muno). Elite setters recruited by Sealy don't play well, relatively unheralded mid-major transfers do. THAT'S ALL ANYONE'S BEEN TRYING TO SAY, and <b>specifically no one is saying that each setter that's gone through his program has been bad.</b> You're taking it into some weird tangents bringing up personal grudges against the coach or assists per set in trying to deny that. Its sounds like it personal because you went full douche in your initial reply and i just matched the negative ass energy you were sending my way. If 2 setters transferring is your indication of poor coaching, ok you’re entitled to that opinion, all I’m saying is that it’s speculative and my issue wasn’t primarily with you it was with the annoying lemming like, groupthink that just sounded anti-Sealy for anti-Sealy’s sake. If your opinion is that every highly ranked (rankings are also speculative but i digress) that is recruited by the UCLA STAFF must graduate as a 1st Team all PAC12, All American, and top 10 in every setting specific category in UCLA history then specify that. Because you have yet to mention what actually is an example of a “successful” season in your eyes that needed to be accomplished by these recruits for them to be up to your standards of success. If you’re not doing that, sorry but its just gonna come off as speculative to me. Not going to jump on the bandwagon just because the rest of VT does. |
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on Apr 3, 2021 18:19:41 GMT -5
If I flip into this thread looking for some transfer tea just to see some stupid argument one more time...
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Apr 3, 2021 18:20:42 GMT -5
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE TUANIGA AND FUENTES ARE HEADED PLEASE
AND SCULLY IF ANYONE HAS THE TEA ON THAT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 18:33:40 GMT -5
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE TUANIGA AND FUENTES ARE HEADED PLEASE AND SCULLY IF ANYONE HAS THE TEA ON THAT Tuaniga and Scully are going to Vanderbilt. Fuentes is going to Oklahoma State |
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Post by saywhatnow on Apr 3, 2021 18:39:12 GMT -5
I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE TUANIGA AND FUENTES ARE HEADED PLEASE AND SCULLY IF ANYONE HAS THE TEA ON THAT Tuaniga and Scully are going to Vanderbilt. Fuentes is going to Oklahoma State 🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by ilalum92 on Apr 3, 2021 19:23:35 GMT -5
If I flip into this thread looking for some transfer tea just to see some stupid argument one more time... This a million times. This multi-page argument should be on the UCLA thread. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Apr 3, 2021 19:40:37 GMT -5
Someone just tag me if anything transfer related happens. Tuaniga gonna read this thread eating popcorn like “I ain’t even gonna transfer at this point. That’ll throw em off.”
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Post by playaplease on Apr 3, 2021 22:20:52 GMT -5
Anyone heard any updates for landing spots with Tuaniga or Fuentes? Tuaniga to SC |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 22:54:18 GMT -5
I also think it’s SC. Sorry Hook ems she doesn’t follow Texas anything.
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Post by azvolleydad on Apr 3, 2021 22:55:04 GMT -5
Anyone heard any updates for landing spots with Tuaniga or Fuentes? Tuaniga to SC If so, I hope Lazarro transfers |
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Post by bbg95 on Apr 3, 2021 23:22:51 GMT -5
Anyone heard any updates for landing spots with Tuaniga or Fuentes? Tuaniga to SC If that happens, that will continue Keller's success in high-profile transfer recruiting battles (e.g. Zoe Fleck) that he began at UCLA. |
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Post by gobruins on Apr 4, 2021 1:03:39 GMT -5
I get that there was a for sure setting drought at different points of Sealy’s tenure but i just think it’s speculative to say that each setter that has gone through his program had an abject failure of a career. But I guess when you come from a place of high standards for the UCLA volleyball program, that individual would feel that way. However, when you just come from a “Sealy sucks” position. I simply can take that seriously. I’m not interested in anyone’s personal grievances against him as a coach. Average seasons don’t equal a terrible coach and again it’s not like any of these VT people are in direct communication with any of those mentioned setters. As douchey as it sounds, i try to deal in facts not feelings. Your reading comprehension is terrible. Here are some facts for you: there have been 4 highly-recruited setters (aka Top 20 national overall recruits) in Sealy's tenure - Moenoa, Strehlow, Muno, MIller. Zero of turned out to be great setters at UCLA, and most of them ended up losing the job to a less heralded transfer. Strehlow and Miller both transferred out ad proved to be way better at other schools once they left UCLA. When UCLA has been most successful under Sealy, it's when he's had a mid-major transfer running the team (Van Orden, Chandler, Sponcil, Muno). Elite setters recruited by Sealy don't play well, relatively unheralded mid-major transfers do. THAT'S ALL ANYONE'S BEEN TRYING TO SAY, and specifically no one is saying that each setter that's gone through his program has been bad. You're taking it into some weird tangents bringing up personal grudges against the coach or assists per set in trying to deny that. This is way off base. Muno was never recruited as a setter. She was a utility player who was expected to eventually be the Libero. Strehlow did absolutely nothing at Pepperdine. Moenoa was always injured. Miller didn't really do a whole lot at Minnesota, though that was mostly due to missing a lot of matches with a concussion, but she never played good enough at UCLA to establish herself as the #1 setter. Sometimes players not living up to expectations are the fault of the player, not the coach. When a coach can take an unheralded setter like Lauren Van Orden and turn her into a National Champion, or take an OH like Sarah Sponcil and make her into an All-American setter, that tells me that is a coach who can develop setters. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 4, 2021 1:47:13 GMT -5
Your reading comprehension is terrible. Here are some facts for you: there have been 4 highly-recruited setters (aka Top 20 national overall recruits) in Sealy's tenure - Moenoa, Strehlow, Muno, MIller. Zero of turned out to be great setters at UCLA, and most of them ended up losing the job to a less heralded transfer. Strehlow and Miller both transferred out ad proved to be way better at other schools once they left UCLA. When UCLA has been most successful under Sealy, it's when he's had a mid-major transfer running the team (Van Orden, Chandler, Sponcil, Muno). Elite setters recruited by Sealy don't play well, relatively unheralded mid-major transfers do. THAT'S ALL ANYONE'S BEEN TRYING TO SAY, and specifically no one is saying that each setter that's gone through his program has been bad. You're taking it into some weird tangents bringing up personal grudges against the coach or assists per set in trying to deny that. This is way off base. Muno was never recruited as a setter. She was a utility player who was expected to eventually be the Libero. Strehlow did absolutely nothing at Pepperdine. Moenoa was always injured. Miller didn't really do a whole lot at Minnesota, though that was mostly due to missing a lot of matches with a concussion, but she never played good enough at UCLA to establish herself as the #1 setter. Sometimes players not living up to expectations are the fault of the player, not the coach. When a coach can take an unheralded setter like Lauren Van Orden and turn her into a National Champion, or take an OH like Sarah Sponcil and make her into an All-American setter, that tells me that is a coach who can develop setters. LOL that's a bizarre retconning of history. Muno was 100% recruited to be a setter. That was the plan for her from the beginning. She ended up doing well in a utility role. Strehlow was all-conference every year at Pepperdine, even as the talent dropped around her. Miller was very good at Minnesota when she was able to play. We agree Van Orden and Sponcil were exceptional setters for UCLA. At this point, it's not a one-off... it's a trend. |
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