Top 2022 talent

[ay2013]

Sept 9, 2020 18:10:19 GMT -5 redbeard2008 said:

Sept 9, 2020 16:51:06 GMT -5 ay2013 said:

If we are talking specifically of Washington situation, given the recruiting attention to a variety of 2022 players I've heard about, I highly doubt that Cook PLANS/PLANNED on giving one or two schollies in 2022.

As long as the NCAA hasn't expanded the 2022 scholarship limit, he's only got one to give (Hani), assuming either Mikkelson or Wilson will be on scholarship. Easier to recruit for 2023, with three starting spots open (S, OH, MB), than for 2022, with none.

I'll respond in our own thread since this is pretty program specific for 2022.

[redbeard2008]

Sept 9, 2020 18:12:35 GMT -5 c4ndlelight said:

Sept 9, 2020 15:53:51 GMT -5 n00b said:

Shady, but not historically true about UW.

If the same situation I'm thinking of, she was given the chance to greyshirt, but she chose not to. What I was referring to was offering someone and then, if she accepts, driving someone else off the roster to make room.

[Friday]

Anna McClure commits to Ohio State for defense.

[volleyon]

Sept 9, 2020 15:10:01 GMT -5 FTLOG said:

Sept 8, 2020 17:45:45 GMT -5 ay2013 said:

she needs to develop a bit more power on her shots, but this is a good one! the LA school recruiting is on FIRE!

just like the rest of LA

OH wow.  Funny, but unfortunately very true, esp. today.  Smoke everywhere can't even breathe outside.

[USC✌🏼]

Was Mia Moore ranked or not?

[jammaster]

Sept 10, 2020 22:44:18 GMT -5 USC✌🏼 said:

Was Mia Moore ranked or not?

I did not see her on the 2022.

[USC✌🏼]

Sept 10, 2020 23:42:34 GMT -5 jammaster said:

Sept 10, 2020 22:44:18 GMT -5 USC✌🏼 said:

Was Mia Moore ranked or not?

I did not see her on the 2022.

That’s weird..I would of thought she was. She’s really good.

[vbjustice]

Sept 11, 2020 0:02:52 GMT -5 USC✌🏼 said:

Sept 10, 2020 23:42:34 GMT -5 jammaster said:

I did not see her on the 2022.

That’s weird..I would of thought she was. She’s really good.

And a good lefty Opp at that. Definitely weird.

[vballfreak808]

Madison Scheer (Rockwood Thunder) commits to Auburn to brings its class to five

[bluepenquin]

I have been looking at revising the black ink score. Here is a preliminary 1st stab of the top players for 2022 with their BI score.

1. Wucherer, McKenna (Minnesota) - 13
2. Kahahawai, Devin (Undecided) - 12
3. Middleton, Jordan (USC) - 11
3. Carlson, Averi (Baylor) - 11
3. Rubin, Ella (Undecided) - 11
6. Kubik, Hayden (Nebraska) - 10
6. Faumuina, Adonia (USC) - 10
8. Dacosta, Alexis (Baylor) - 8
8. Allick, Bekka (Nebraska) - 8
8. Wrobel, Ella (Wisconsin) - 8
8. Singletary, Mari (Texas) - 8
8. Stucky, Alexis (Florida) - 8
8. Hurta, Katie (Indiana) - 8

[bluepenquin]

Here is the current T25 recruiting classes:

1. USC - 31.0
2. Baylor - 27.0
3. Minnesota - 24.0
4. Florida - 21.0
5. Nebraska - 18.0
6. Missouri - 16.5
7. Texas A&M - 15.5
8. Notre Dame - 14.5
9. Indiana - 13.0
10. TCU - 13.0
11. Denver - 12.5
12. Duke - 12.0
12. Texas - 12.0
12. UCLA - 12.0
15. North Carolina - 11.0
16. Wisconsin - 10.0
17. Pepperdine - 9.5
18. BYU - 9.0
19. Creighton - 8.0
19. Oklahoma - 8.0
21. Purdue - 8.0
22. Auburn - 7.5
23. Cal - 7.0
24. Michigan - 6.5
24. Tennessee - 6.5

[Deleted]

Sept 12, 2020 8:35:57 GMT -5 bluepenquin said:

I have been looking at revising the black ink score. Here is a preliminary 1st stab of the top players for 2022 with their BI score.

1. Wucherer, McKenna (Minnesota) - 13
2. Kahahawai, Devin (Undecided) - 12
3. Middleton, Jordan (USC) - 11
3. Carlson, Averi (Baylor) - 11
3. Rubin, Ella (Undecided) - 11
6. Kubik, Hayden (Nebraska) - 10
6. Faumuina, Adonia (USC) - 10
8. Dacosta, Alexis (Baylor) - 8
8. Allick, Bekka (Nebraska) - 8
8. Wrobel, Ella (Wisconsin) - 8
8. Singletary, Mari (Texas) - 8
8. Stucky, Alexis (Florida) - 8
8. Hurta, Katie (Indiana) - 8

Are you awarding points for making GYNT?

[bluepenquin]

Sept 12, 2020 8:49:39 GMT -5 @bigwestfan2 said:

Sept 12, 2020 8:35:57 GMT -5 bluepenquin said:

I have been looking at revising the black ink score. Here is a preliminary 1st stab of the top players for 2022 with their BI score.

1. Wucherer, McKenna (Minnesota) - 13
2. Kahahawai, Devin (Undecided) - 12
3. Middleton, Jordan (USC) - 11
3. Carlson, Averi (Baylor) - 11
3. Rubin, Ella (Undecided) - 11
6. Kubik, Hayden (Nebraska) - 10
6. Faumuina, Adonia (USC) - 10
8. Dacosta, Alexis (Baylor) - 8
8. Allick, Bekka (Nebraska) - 8
8. Wrobel, Ella (Wisconsin) - 8
8. Singletary, Mari (Texas) - 8
8. Stucky, Alexis (Florida) - 8
8. Hurta, Katie (Indiana) - 8

Are you awarding points for making GYNT?

Yes.  

Some things I did - and still tinkering.  I gave 1 point for any OH or S.  I just think that those 2 positions are more impactful.  I gave 1 point to the foreign players - one with Wisconsin and one with Utah.  Still not sure what/how to factor in foreign players.  I gave 3 points to anyone that was drafted in the Volley_High coaches draft top 20 and then 2 points if drafted in the T30.  1 point for HM.  I gave 2 points for GYNT.

I like the idea of using GYNT - but how often does a player skip GYNT for personal choice?

I put a lot of value on that VH coaches draft and then GYNT when separating the top players.  So someone like Jordan Middleton who was #8 in the coaches draft or Averi Carlson #10, but not GYNT is valued pretty high - and then Ella Rubin who is both GYNT and #5 (top player in coaches draft) gets a boost from what looks like a under rank from PV.

Wucherer hits all the buttons - #2 in the class in coaches draft.  #3 in PV rank. OH, GYNT.  Kahahawai hits all 3, but at slightly lower rankings than Wucherer.  And then someone like Dacosta is getting 100% of her points from PV.

[Longhorn20]

Anyone heard anything about Kahahawai’s recruitment? Any chance she stays home or do we think she’ll come to the mainland for college?

[Deleted]

Sept 12, 2020 9:17:22 GMT -5 bluepenquin said:

Sept 12, 2020 8:49:39 GMT -5 @bigwestfan2 said:

Are you awarding points for making GYNT?

Yes.  

Some things I did - and still tinkering.  I gave 1 point for any OH or S.  I just think that those 2 positions are more impactful.  I gave 1 point to the foreign players - one with Wisconsin and one with Utah.  Still not sure what/how to factor in foreign players.  I gave 3 points to anyone that was drafted in the Volley_High coaches draft top 20 and then 2 points if drafted in the T30.  1 point for HM.  I gave 2 points for GYNT.

I like the idea of using GYNT - but how often does a player skip GYNT for personal choice?

I put a lot of value on that VH coaches draft and then GYNT when separating the top players.  So someone like Jordan Middleton who was #8 in the coaches draft or Averi Carlson #10, but not GYNT is valued pretty high - and then Ella Rubin who is both GYNT and #5 (top player in coaches draft) gets a boost from what looks like a under rank from PV.

Wucherer hits all the buttons - #2 in the class in coaches draft.  #3 in PV rank. OH, GYNT.  Kahahawai hits all 3, but at slightly lower rankings than Wucherer.  And then someone like Dacosta is getting 100% of her points from PV.

All good adjustments I think. And Wurcherer coming out on top is, in my opinion, an indication that it's heading in the right direction.

Regarding foreign players, is it too time consuming to reward them based on their accomplishments with their national team? Say 6 points for senior national team experience (Parra at Texas for example), 4 points for U-20 competition and 2 points for Girl's Youth level?

We've discussed this previously, but I still feel that once players get to college their PV points should be dropped from BI completely and replaced with things like CNT experience or conference accolades (with more weight given to more recent achievements, so a 2019 AA HM is worth more in 2020, than a 2018 one). PV are ranking based on potential and when players are actually in college, it is time to turn that into performance. Ashley Shook etc contributing 8 points every year while not seeing the floor distorts the rankings imo.