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Post by horns1 on Nov 18, 2021 21:31:01 GMT -5
Not that i'm surprised with YOUR mindset, but I guess no one should get credit for "developing" any of their top recruits; but, should get blamed if they don't develop to an All-American level. At Texas, we all know that Middle Blockers just arrive at Texas and are automatically named All-Americans based on magic and dumb luck. Getting to an Olympic level goes way beyond the effort and commitment a player gives in college.
Whether you like it or not, other than Penn State, nobody else holds a candle to the number of elite All-American middle blockers who spent their careers at Texas in the Jerritt Elliott era: Bethany Howden, Leticia Armstrong, Brandee Magee, Lauren Paolini, Rachael Adams, Molly McCage, Chiaka Obogu, Khat Bell, Brionne Butler, Asjia O'Neal The only thing that is unsurprising is your complete distortion of what I said. I said elite talent will manifest itself for the National Team. Of course Texas can get credit for developing Ogbogu, but that’s different than saying that it’s because of a Texas that Ogbogu is on the national team. She’s would probably still have made her way to the national team even if she went to USC, or Stanford, or Wisconsin, or Minnesota etc. there is nothing special about her to going to Texas for why she’s doing so well just like there was nothing special about Poulter going to Illinois, or Thompson going to Cincinnati, or Hill going to Pepperdine, or Drew’s going to Purdue. Plenty of programs can develop talent, there is nothing unique or special about Texas in this regard, period. What's unsurprising is you taking a dig at Texas any chance you get. Even though I didn't highlight your other comments in your initial post, we both know you came out with your same broken record. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 18, 2021 21:32:38 GMT -5
The only thing that is unsurprising is your complete distortion of what I said. I said elite talent will manifest itself for the National Team. Of course Texas can get credit for developing Ogbogu, but that’s different than saying that it’s because of a Texas that Ogbogu is on the national team. She’s would probably still have made her way to the national team even if she went to USC, or Stanford, or Wisconsin, or Minnesota etc. there is nothing special about her to going to Texas for why she’s doing so well just like there was nothing special about Poulter going to Illinois, or Thompson going to Cincinnati, or Hill going to Pepperdine, or Drew’s going to Purdue. Plenty of programs can develop talent, there is nothing unique or special about Texas in this regard, period. What's unsurprising is you taking a dig at Texas any chance you get. Even though I didn't highlight your other comments in your initial post, we both know you came out with your same broken record. If you feel that way you can do yourself a favor and just not read what I post- problem solved… you are welcome. And when some homer Texas fan says things like “Texas should be her top choice considering we’ve produced the most amount of olympic worthy middles out of that final group - we’d be tied with Penn State with 2” You should expect other people to explain why that is stupid. |
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Post by horns1 on Nov 18, 2021 21:35:02 GMT -5
Texas should be her top choice considering we’ve produced the most amount of olympic worthy middles out of that final group - we’d be tied with Penn State with 2. It’s pretty laughable to think that TEXAS is the reason for that. Elite talent will manifest itself for the national team regardless of collegiate program. Texas is no better at developing middles than dozens of other programs just like Illinois is no better at developing setters than dozens of other programs. The only common theme among almost all Olympic roster hopefuls is that most were expected to be elite talent long before they even arrived to campus. The fact that Texas gets so many elite recruits is the only correlation here. In fact, given how many elite recruits come through the Texas program, it’s actually kind of surprising how few make the big time Olympic training rosters compared to programs like Penn State, Stanford, and Nebraska. Who was the last Olympian from Stanford? EDIT: Foluke |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Nov 18, 2021 21:35:24 GMT -5
It’s pretty laughable to think that TEXAS is the reason for that. Elite talent will manifest itself for the national team regardless of collegiate program. Texas is no better at developing middles than dozens of other programs just like Illinois is no better at developing setters than dozens of other programs. The only common theme among almost all Olympic roster hopefuls is that most were expected to be elite talent long before they even arrived to campus. The fact that Texas gets so many elite recruits is the only correlation here. In fact, given how many elite recruits come through the Texas program, it’s actually kind of surprising how few make the big time Olympic training rosters compared to programs like Penn State, Stanford, and Nebraska. Who was the last Olympian from Stanford? Foluke lmao |
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Post by horns1 on Nov 18, 2021 21:38:08 GMT -5
What's unsurprising is you taking a dig at Texas any chance you get. Even though I didn't highlight your other comments in your initial post, we both know you came out with your same broken record. If you feel that way you can do yourself a favor and just not read what I post- problem solved… you are welcome. And when some homer Texas fan says things like “ Texas should be her top choice considering we’ve produced the most amount of olympic worthy middles out of that final group - we’d be tied with Penn State with 2” You should expect other people to explain why this is stupid. Or, you can do yourself a favor and quit with your same 'ole sh!t. Rest assured I'll be around to call you out on it (again).
FYI -- I never said I agreed with that Texas poster.
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Post by horns1 on Nov 18, 2021 21:39:11 GMT -5
Who was the last Olympian from Stanford? Foluke lmao Oopsie. She has been a great one. One in the in the last 2 Olympics is not really the Stanford standard, though  |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 18, 2021 21:41:46 GMT -5
If you feel that way you can do yourself a favor and just not read what I post- problem solved… you are welcome. And when some homer Texas fan says things like “ Texas should be her top choice considering we’ve produced the most amount of olympic worthy middles out of that final group - we’d be tied with Penn State with 2” You should expect other people to explain why this is stupid. Or, you can do yourself a favor and quit with your same 'ole sh!t. Rest assured I'll be around to call you out on it (again).
FYI -- I never said I agreed with that Texas poster.
And I do not care whether you do or do not agree with that Texas poster. Your opinion has no bearing on what I do and don’t post - and it never will. |
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Post by horns1 on Nov 18, 2021 21:46:46 GMT -5
Or, you can do yourself a favor and quit with your same 'ole sh!t. Rest assured I'll be around to call you out on it (again).
FYI -- I never said I agreed with that Texas poster.
And I do not care whether you do or do not agree with that Texas poster. Your opinion has no bearing on what I do and don’t post - and it never will. Nobody does negative recruiting better than you.
How 'bout you focus your energy on writing a book on why Washington has such problems recruiting elite players instead of obsessing on Texas' recruiting?
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Post by texashorns on Nov 18, 2021 22:01:57 GMT -5
Nobody knows where she is going can we plz stop arguing she could go anywhere and become one of the best middles
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Post by Disc808 on Nov 18, 2021 22:07:47 GMT -5
Oopsie. She has been a great one. One in the in the last 2 Olympics is not really the Stanford standard, though I mean I'm sure Klineman counts for something |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Nov 18, 2021 22:10:42 GMT -5
Yes yes, the Gophers have one dryspell season at middle and everything's calamity.   (tbh I did like that donut comment) Hey, Texas ran a donut offense the year Chiaka Ogbogu sat out unexpectedly; luckily, Texas "developed" Yaazie Bedart-Ghani into a more than serviceable middle blocker half-way through the season and was still able to make it to the national championship match. Still waiting for everything to "click" with the Gopher middles so that they can mirror that kind of success. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Nov 19, 2021 9:19:05 GMT -5
Texas should be her top choice considering we’ve produced the most amount of olympic worthy middles out of that final group - we’d be tied with Penn State with 2. It’s pretty laughable to think that TEXAS is the reason for that. Elite talent will manifest itself for the national team regardless of collegiate program. Texas is no better at developing middles than dozens of other programs just like Illinois is no better at developing setters than dozens of other programs. The only common theme among almost all Olympic roster hopefuls is that most were expected to be elite talent long before they even arrived to campus. The fact that Texas gets so many elite recruits is the only correlation here. In fact, given how many elite recruits come through the Texas program, it’s actually kind of surprising how few make the big time Olympic training rosters compared to programs like Penn State, Stanford, and Nebraska. I agree to an extent. I don't think Chiaka or Butler knew how to run a slide before coming to Texas. Rachael didn't run a slide til after she left Texas. So, maybe a slight better than developing? |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Nov 19, 2021 9:27:50 GMT -5
It’s pretty laughable to think that TEXAS is the reason for that. Elite talent will manifest itself for the national team regardless of collegiate program. Texas is no better at developing middles than dozens of other programs just like Illinois is no better at developing setters than dozens of other programs. The only common theme among almost all Olympic roster hopefuls is that most were expected to be elite talent long before they even arrived to campus. The fact that Texas gets so many elite recruits is the only correlation here. In fact, given how many elite recruits come through the Texas program, it’s actually kind of surprising how few make the big time Olympic training rosters compared to programs like Penn State, Stanford, and Nebraska. I agree to an extent. I don't think Chiaka or Butler knew how to run a slide before coming to Texas. Rachael didn't run a slide til after she left Texas. So, maybe a slight better than developing? Also, basing successful volleyball careers on Olympic appearances is limiting in my opinion. They are many longhorns having successful seasons overseas. |
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Post by longhorn9214 on Nov 19, 2021 9:29:15 GMT -5
I agree to an extent. I don't think Chiaka or Butler knew how to run a slide before coming to Texas. Rachael didn't run a slide til after she left Texas. So, maybe a slight better than developing? Also, basing successful volleyball careers on Olympic appearances is limiting in my opinion. They are many longhorns having successful seasons overseas. We all just want Maggie to be happy and successful. |
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Post by rodbcantu on Nov 19, 2021 10:05:39 GMT -5
Texas should be her top choice considering we’ve produced the most amount of olympic worthy middles out of that final group - we’d be tied with Penn State with 2. Or she could go for the team on her list with the highest number recent Olympic players and coach, the most fans, academic All-Americans, National Championships, competitive conference, and social media interactions in a place that is within a 1 day driving distance of home. not a single middle though… 👀 I’m happy for the outsides… but with your best outside hitting sub 250 - and Lexi battling with a true freshman for starting time - can Nebraska really develop outsides or just have raw talent? |
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