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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 4, 2020 10:53:10 GMT -5
Also, Avery Skinner did better her freshman year than Ali Stumler. To this day, I never understood why stumler got the nod. IMO, she should be playing back row for Avery. they hit for nearly the same or very close percentage in 2018. They must’ve been battling in practice, and Stumler must’ve outplayed her in practice and could also pass. A lot of coaches say, if you can pass, you play. Skinner choose ball control and defense over a little more offense. Had Avery been a little more consistent, she might have won the nod. But Stumler's passing and defense is stellar. Hard to beat that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 10:55:51 GMT -5
Are we sure younger skinner is going to start over her sister? She really came on in the match vs. Nebraska in 2018 and I think she will get a few looks. What about Tealer v. Rutherford? I see Tealer winning out; she is very explosive and a heavy hitter. Rutherford has a CANNON Idk how she doesn’t see the floor
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 4, 2020 11:06:50 GMT -5
Are we sure younger skinner is going to start over her sister? She really came on in the match vs. Nebraska in 2018 and I think she will get a few looks. What about Tealer v. Rutherford? I see Tealer winning out; she is very explosive and a heavy hitter. Rutherford has a CANNON Idk how she doesn’t see the floor Tealer's experience at this level may win out early. But with Rutherford's big arm and being a lefty will eventually win over the spot. But I still think Fischer may land there for blocking purposes.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jul 4, 2020 11:20:17 GMT -5
Rutherford has a CANNON Idk how she doesn’t see the floor Tealer's experience at this level may win out early. But with Rutherford's big arm and being a lefty will eventually win over the spot. But I still think Fischer may land there for blocking purposes. Rutherford is a very good blocker. She has incredibly long arms and big hands and gets a lot of good touches on the ball. Any chance she sets in future? She was good in high school/club ball but I’m not sure how well her setting skills transfer to the college game. If she does ever get the chance, I could see her adapting a similar approach as Camille Conner with her heavy left hand.
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Post by ned3vball on Jul 4, 2020 17:10:09 GMT -5
Gabby Goddard is young for her class. She played 17s as a HS senior for the best JO club in the NE region, SMASH VBC. And she was a very good player on a very good team. But she did not leap out as an, OMG, there is a player who will be a middle for a D1 final 4 team. That said, she committed early on to Kentucky so someone there has a plan for her that had to include a few developmental years. She had to deal with an injury, hopefully that is in the past. The NE region kids could use a big time D1 example to show it is possible. Good luck to her.
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Post by jumphigher on Jul 4, 2020 20:57:08 GMT -5
Rutherford has a CANNON Idk how she doesn’t see the floor Tealer's experience at this level may win out early. But with Rutherford's big arm and being a lefty will eventually win over the spot. But I still think Fischer may land there for blocking purposes. Rutherford is a lot more polished than Tealer was coming out of high school. If I remember correctly, Tealer was a track athlete that converted to volleyball a little later. We didn't see Tealer much last year, but I think the experience gap will be minimal even out of the gate. Have heard both of them are great kids from a few that recruited them, so I'm sure it will be a healthy competition.
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Post by vballvball on Jul 5, 2020 0:22:31 GMT -5
Tealer's experience at this level may win out early. But with Rutherford's big arm and being a lefty will eventually win over the spot. But I still think Fischer may land there for blocking purposes. Rutherford is a very good blocker. She has incredibly long arms and big hands and gets a lot of good touches on the ball. Any chance she sets in future? She was good in high school/club ball but I’m not sure how well her setting skills transfer to the college game. If she does ever get the chance, I could see her adapting a similar approach as Camille Conner with her heavy left hand. They’ll probably run a 6-2 next year (2021) with Rutherford and Emma Grome
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jul 5, 2020 2:06:45 GMT -5
Rutherford is a very good blocker. She has incredibly long arms and big hands and gets a lot of good touches on the ball. Any chance she sets in future? She was good in high school/club ball but I’m not sure how well her setting skills transfer to the college game. If she does ever get the chance, I could see her adapting a similar approach as Camille Conner with her heavy left hand. They’ll probably run a 6-2 next year (2021) with Rutherford and Emma Grome I don’t see the point of running a 6-2. If Rutherford would be setting, it would be much more efficient to run her in a 5-1. She can still contribute on offense with her left hand and it would maintain consistency of sets throughout each rotation. If balls are tight at the net, she’ll be able to go up save them or send them over when she’s in the front row, something that can’t ever happen in a 6-2.
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Post by vballvball on Jul 5, 2020 11:04:04 GMT -5
They’ll probably run a 6-2 next year (2021) with Rutherford and Emma Grome I don’t see the point of running a 6-2. If Rutherford would be setting, it would be much more efficient to run her in a 5-1. She can still contribute on offense with her left hand and it would maintain consistency of sets throughout each rotation. If balls are tight at the net, she’ll be able to go up save them or send them over when she’s in the front row, something that can’t ever happen in a 6-2. she’d be able to set in the back row and hit in the front row. She’s used to a 6-2 from club. When you have 2 great setters and enough good hitters to make a 6-2 run well, it is an easy choice. Coach Skinner has already hinted at the idea of a 6-2 and has recruited for it.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jul 5, 2020 14:16:46 GMT -5
I don’t see the point of running a 6-2. If Rutherford would be setting, it would be much more efficient to run her in a 5-1. She can still contribute on offense with her left hand and it would maintain consistency of sets throughout each rotation. If balls are tight at the net, she’ll be able to go up save them or send them over when she’s in the front row, something that can’t ever happen in a 6-2. she’d be able to set in the back row and hit in the front row. She’s used to a 6-2 from club. When you have 2 great setters and enough good hitters to make a 6-2 run well, it is an easy choice. Coach Skinner has already hinted at the idea of a 6-2 and has recruited for it. I understand how a 6-2 works but it is normally used if your setters aren’t good at the net (too short, blocking liability, etc). That wouldn’t be the case with Rutherford. She could still hit in the front row in a 5-1, much like Camille Conner who racks plenty of kills from match to match. There are some disadvantages when running a 6-2 as I mentioned earlier. Consistency in setting is one of them. Much easier for a hitter to stay in a groove with one setter than switching between two. Additionally, you’ll never have a chance to fight for tight balls at the net. In a 5-1 there are 3 rotations where the setter can save, dump, joust, etc for an overpass from their team. In a 6-2 it’s not easy for the setter to do anything about a tight pass without being called as a backrow attacker/blocker. There’s a reason most top teams run a 5-1, even ones who have plenty of depth on the bench. If Rutherford wasn’t a lefty, I think a 6-2 would make more sense.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 5, 2020 15:35:15 GMT -5
she’d be able to set in the back row and hit in the front row. She’s used to a 6-2 from club. When you have 2 great setters and enough good hitters to make a 6-2 run well, it is an easy choice. Coach Skinner has already hinted at the idea of a 6-2 and has recruited for it. I understand how a 6-2 works but it is normally used if your setters aren’t good at the net (too short, blocking liability, etc). That wouldn’t be the case with Rutherford. She could still hit in the front row in a 5-1, much like Camille Conner who racks plenty of kills from match to match. There are some disadvantages when running a 6-2 as I mentioned earlier. Consistency in setting is one of them. Much easier for a hitter to stay in a groove with one setter than switching between two. Additionally, you’ll never have a chance to fight for tight balls at the net. In a 5-1 there are 3 rotations where the setter can save, dump, joust, etc for an overpass from their team. In a 6-2 it’s not easy for the setter to do anything about a tight pass without being called as a backrow attacker/blocker. There’s a reason most top teams run a 5-1, even ones who have plenty of depth on the bench. If Rutherford wasn’t a lefty, I think a 6-2 would make more sense. Granted I haven't seen a lot of Rutherford's playing. Probably about 5 matches. But during those I never felt like she was running a system as if a true setter. Moreso a hitter who can set. I hope that changes while at UK. But Grome is good but can be a blocking liability.
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Post by chisovnik on Jul 5, 2020 15:52:05 GMT -5
Can we just make it a rule that no one on this board talks about 6-2s again? These posts are so frustrating to read.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Jul 5, 2020 16:39:42 GMT -5
Can we just make it a rule that no one on this board talks about 6-2s again? These posts are so frustrating to read. I’m open to learning.
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Post by stevehorn on Jul 5, 2020 21:17:51 GMT -5
Tealer's experience at this level may win out early. But with Rutherford's big arm and being a lefty will eventually win over the spot. But I still think Fischer may land there for blocking purposes. Rutherford is a lot more polished than Tealer was coming out of high school. If I remember correctly, Tealer was a track athlete that converted to volleyball a little later. We didn't see Tealer much last year, but I think the experience gap will be minimal even out of the gate. Have heard both of them are great kids from a few that recruited them, so I'm sure it will be a healthy competition. I don't know if Tealer was in track, but she was playing club volleyball before high school.
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Post by cbrown1709 on Jul 6, 2020 0:18:25 GMT -5
On the other thread someone mentioned how good M Skinner is going to be. I can't wait to see her with Lilley setting her.
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