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Post by trojansc on Oct 2, 2021 9:53:03 GMT -5
Because they aren't vaccinated. Masks stop the spread. Reduce.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Oct 2, 2021 9:57:07 GMT -5
By a significant amount right?
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 10:02:05 GMT -5
By a significant amount right? Masks are effective at reducing the spread of COVID-19. Vaccinations are our best defense.
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Post by trojansc on Oct 2, 2021 10:05:12 GMT -5
By a significant amount right? What’s significant? I think the recent Stanford study found 10% reduction, that’s pretty significant to me when we’re talking human lives. Maybe not to you? Then again, I’m pretty sure you’re being intentionally flippant at this point, so not sure what it matters.
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Post by n00b on Oct 2, 2021 10:26:20 GMT -5
And a previous infection offers as good of protection as the vaccine. So are previously-infected, unvaccinated people free to live normal life as well? If it’s about protection and not compliance, that answer should be yes.
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 10:28:04 GMT -5
And a previous infection offers as good of protection as the vaccine. So are previously-infected, unvaccinated people free to live normal life as well? If it’s about protection and not compliance, that answer should be yes. You start with a false premise. Previously infected do benefit from vaccinations as well. Get vaccinated.
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 10:31:20 GMT -5
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 2, 2021 10:35:36 GMT -5
And a previous infection offers as good of protection as the vaccine. So are previously-infected, unvaccinated people free to live normal life as well? If it’s about protection and not compliance, that answer should be yes. You start with a false premise. Previously infected do benefit from vaccinations as well. Get vaccinated. That is the same as saying people that are vaccinated would have more protection if they would also recover from COVID. And for this reason - we should not accept being vaccinated w/o natural immunities as being sufficient.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 2, 2021 10:37:04 GMT -5
I'm not discounting your PSA. Getting vaccinated is part of learning to live with it. Then again we are all part of society (some contribute more than others to be sure). The only ones who are 'removed from society' are those who have committed a crime. Not getting vaccinated is not a crime...yet. I didn't say anyone should be removed from society. Those who want to enjoy travel, shopping, restaurants, a job etc. get vaccinated. Sounds like Nazi Germany?
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 10:38:25 GMT -5
You start with a false premise. Previously infected do benefit from vaccinations as well. Get vaccinated. That is the same as saying people that are vaccinated would have more protection if they would also recover from COVID. And for this reason - we should not accept being vaccinated w/o natural immunities as being sufficient. swing and a miss. Yes there are benefits of having both had COVID and being vaccinated. There is NO reason for most, if not all, not to be vaccinated.
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 10:38:57 GMT -5
I didn't say anyone should be removed from society. Those who want to enjoy travel, shopping, restaurants, a job etc. get vaccinated. Sounds like Nazi Germany? sounds like hyperbole. Thanks for the chuckle.
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 2, 2021 10:55:35 GMT -5
That is the same as saying people that are vaccinated would have more protection if they would also recover from COVID. And for this reason - we should not accept being vaccinated w/o natural immunities as being sufficient. swing and a miss. Yes there are benefits of having both had COVID and being vaccinated. There is NO reason for most, if not all, not to be vaccinated. Other than being sufficiently 'protected' from COVID.
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 10:57:55 GMT -5
swing and a miss. Yes there are benefits of having both had COVID and being vaccinated. There is NO reason for most, if not all, not to be vaccinated. Other than being sufficiently 'protected' from COVID. how do you measure "sufficiently protected"? How do you categorize those who have been infected and have also been vaccinated?
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Post by bluepenquin on Oct 2, 2021 11:04:56 GMT -5
In the name of public health, we are going to fire many healthcare workers that put their lives on the line to get us through the 2020 pandemic.
And will call $3.5T of spending as having zero cost.
It is tough to make this stuff up.
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Post by moody on Oct 2, 2021 11:07:09 GMT -5
In the name of public health, we are going to fire many healthcare workers that put their lives on the line to get us through the 2020 pandemic. And will call $3.5T of spending as having zero cost. It is tough to make this stuff up. Who wants health care workers that deny science? No one says $3.5T in spending has zero cost. What the educated are saying is that it can be paid for by the rich paying their fair share. Hope that helps.
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