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Post by ay2013 on Aug 28, 2020 15:03:35 GMT -5
well, it's all opinion, obviously, but it's clear that the PrepVB ranking is that of a handful of club watchers based on performance now. There is zero input from collegiate coaches. Here is an "opinion" for you, that I will take to the bank. There isn't a single top 10 coach who would offer Dacosta a scholarship at OH over the following players currently ranked lower than Dacosta by Prep Volleyball in her position: Kahahawai Trump Wrobel Rubin Hendrickson Leverette Colyer Bower Rhodes Olson I honestly don't know what you started disputing when you quoted houstonbear's post about Dacosta's ranking. As far as I could tell, no one was referencing future Senior Ace rankings (since they aren't published yet) until your reply. He was using their current PV ranking, and did so accurately. "If Carlson and Dacosta can hold their rankings as seniors, they’ll both pass Kara McGhee, who was #6, as the highest ranked recruits." I was directly responding to "Dacosta holding [her] ranking as seniors". Make no mistake, Dacosta is a quality player, but she's not the 5th best player in the class of 2022, period.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 28, 2020 15:16:10 GMT -5
That's purely your opinion, and cannot be proven at this time. Dealing with facts, her PrepVollyeball ranking is #5 for the class of 2022, and that is what houstonbear15 used when he posted his recruit ranking for Dacosta. In fairness, the PV rankings are just opinions too. Nothing objective about them. Orie Agbaji was the #4 senior ace! Right. But, all we have right now are the PV current rankings as the Senior Aces list is not gonna be out for a few months.
Not sure what Agbaji was ranked by PV prior to her senior season; obviously, she ended up Senior Ace #4 as you noted.
Kara McGhee was Senior Ace #6; not sure she was the sixth best freshman in the country last season, though. So, that's two examples where the Senior Ace rankings don't seem all that accurate.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Aug 28, 2020 15:24:44 GMT -5
PV rankings for the future recruiting classes: 2021: #54- Riley Simpson (OH) #82- Faye Wilbricht (OH) #99- Kaitlyn Riley (MB) #100- Elise McGhee (RS) #129- Lauren Briseno (L/DS) 2022: #4- Averi Carlson (S) #5- Alexis Dacosta (OH) #32- Allie Sczech (RS) #93- Sophia Keene (OH) Both classes are going to add depth to the bench that Baylor hasn’t had before. They’ve had a consistent starting lineup the past few seasons, but no one that could come off the bench and provide a spark. It’ll be exciting to see how these recruits continue to improve and where they’ll be utilized once they enter college. If Carlson and Dacosta can hold their rankings as seniors, they’ll both pass Kara McGhee, who was #6, as the highest ranked recruits. Dacosta is not and will not be the #5 senior ace (college potential). I actually agree and I’m not even sure she’ll play front row when she gets to college. I think her passing/defense will be utilized more than anything. Carlson on the other hand, could very well maintain her ranking and may be the best setter in the class.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 28, 2020 15:31:18 GMT -5
Dacosta is not and will not be the #5 senior ace (college potential). I actually agree and I’m not even sure she’ll play front row when she gets to college. I think her passing/defense will be utilized more than anything. Carlson on the other hand, could very well maintain her ranking and may be the best setter in the class. 100%
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Post by vbstan123 on Aug 28, 2020 16:17:10 GMT -5
How she is ranked currently and how she is ranked on the senior aces will be two totally different things. I would bet money on that. She's still a great player but there are a few outsides that will pass her up. That's purely your opinion, and cannot be proven at this time. Dealing with facts, her PrepVollyeball ranking is #5 for the class of 2022, and that is what houstonbear15 used when he posted his recruit ranking for Dacosta. This is literally a forum for opinions...
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Post by horns1 on Aug 28, 2020 16:28:32 GMT -5
That's purely your opinion, and cannot be proven at this time. Dealing with facts, her PrepVollyeball ranking is #5 for the class of 2022, and that is what houstonbear15 used when he posted his recruit ranking for Dacosta. This is literally a forum for opinions... Of course it is. And, as I stated, yours can't be proven at this time. Your speculation about what the Senior Ace list is going to look like in several months doesn't negate that the current PV rankings for 2022 have Dacosta at #5. Whether you disagree with that ranking or not, that's the ranking used when houstonbear listed Baylor's verbal commitment list.
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Post by mommy on Aug 28, 2020 20:19:05 GMT -5
This is literally a forum for opinions... Of course it is. And, as I stated, yours can't be proven at this time. Your speculation about what the Senior Ace list is going to look like in several months doesn't negate that the current PV rankings for 2022 have Dacosta at #5. Whether you disagree with that ranking or not, that's the ranking used when houstonbear listed Baylor's verbal commitment list. Houstonbear you mean current assistant Baylor coach Sam Erger. She seems to know everything Baylor VB.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Aug 28, 2020 22:47:57 GMT -5
Of course it is. And, as I stated, yours can't be proven at this time. Your speculation about what the Senior Ace list is going to look like in several months doesn't negate that the current PV rankings for 2022 have Dacosta at #5. Whether you disagree with that ranking or not, that's the ranking used when houstonbear listed Baylor's verbal commitment list. Houstonbear you mean current assistant Baylor coach Sam Erger. She seems to know everything Baylor VB. Yep, surprise it’s me. Samantha Erger. Congrats you cracked the code
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 29, 2020 4:42:48 GMT -5
How she is ranked currently and how she is ranked on the senior aces will be two totally different things. I would bet money on that. She's still a great player but there are a few outsides that will pass her up. That's purely your opinion, and cannot be proven at this time. Dealing with facts, her PrepVollyeball ranking is #5 for the class of 2022, and that is what houstonbear15 used when he posted his recruit ranking for Dacosta. Also, the current PV rankings and the Senior Aces rankings measure two completely separate things. The first is purported to be an opinion of how good the players are NOW based on people who follow club volleyball, the latter is purported to be the opinions of collegiate coaches of how good a player can/will be in college. Those are, by very definition, two distinctly different metrics that can produce drastically different results. I look at the top 10 for the 2019 class and see a few names that certainly were NOT the best “current” club players at the end of their junior year. Anwusi? I mean, the ceiling is there, sure, but there were a number of middles in that class that were miles ahead of her during the 2018 club season.
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Post by mommy on Aug 29, 2020 6:51:38 GMT -5
Houstonbear you mean current assistant Baylor coach Sam Erger. She seems to know everything Baylor VB. Yep, surprise it’s me. Samantha Erger. Congrats you cracked the code Why must you feel like you have to brag about your own program?
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Post by houstonbear15 on Aug 29, 2020 19:32:06 GMT -5
Yep, surprise it’s me. Samantha Erger. Congrats you cracked the code Why must you feel like you have to brag about your own program? Lol
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Aug 29, 2020 19:49:49 GMT -5
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Post by chisovnik on Aug 30, 2020 12:29:16 GMT -5
This is literally a forum for opinions... Of course it is. And, as I stated, yours can't be proven at this time. Your speculation about what the Senior Ace list is going to look like in several months doesn't negate that the current PV rankings for 2022 have Dacosta at #5. Whether you disagree with that ranking or not, that's the ranking used when houstonbear listed Baylor's verbal commitment list. What are you getting so worked up about? No one said Dacosta was a bad player, just that she’s clearly not the 5th best player in her class.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 30, 2020 13:50:36 GMT -5
Of course it is. And, as I stated, yours can't be proven at this time. Your speculation about what the Senior Ace list is going to look like in several months doesn't negate that the current PV rankings for 2022 have Dacosta at #5. Whether you disagree with that ranking or not, that's the ranking used when houstonbear listed Baylor's verbal commitment list. What are you getting so worked up about? No one said Dacosta was a bad player, just that she’s clearly not the 5th best player in her class. What do you care? This discussion occurred two days ago.
I'll say it one more time -- she is #5 according to one recruiting service's rankings. Until that same service with the same panel of evaluators puts out an updated/revised set of rankings in the future, that is her current ranking until further notice. If some posters on here don't like or agree with that ranking, there's nothing you can do about it other than to accept it for what it is.
FACT - Dacosta is ranked #5 according to PrepVolleyball
Opinion - She is not the fifth best player for 2022
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Post by houstonbear15 on Sept 1, 2020 8:47:23 GMT -5
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