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Post by Orpheus on Aug 2, 2020 14:17:07 GMT -5
My binge watching update: I finished seasons 32 and 33 (BvBvB2 & Mills v GenX).
In BvBvB2, Debbie didn’t get as crazy as I expected based on some of the vids y’all have posted. I really disliked Scott and Jason, I was glad to see them go out. Tai flipped a lot and it almost seemed like Michelle won by default. I was more impressed with Aubry out of that cast.
In Millennials vs GenX, I was very entertained (Michaela’s exit lol!). Adam has a great story and I enjoyed his gameplay. David’s growth was also impressive. Figgy was annoying, I’m glad she went out early.
I’m now 7 episodes into Gamechangers and Debbie has arrived lol! Varner just outed Zeke and that was emotional to watch. Too bad Sandra went out due to a tribe switch, she’s always entertaining.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 2, 2020 19:50:44 GMT -5
I finished Panama, and that was just a solid season of Survivor with a good cast, story and winner. Cirie made the best strategic move of the season when she masterminded the 3-2-1 to get Courtney out of the game. Terry was the dominant physical threat with his five immunity wins while being in the minority alliance. And Aras played a strong all-around game as the clear second-best physical competitor, as well as one of the better social and strategic players. Aras should get a lot of credit for keeping his Casaya alliance of disparate personalities together after the merge instead of splintering the way that Timbira did in Tocantins. I don't think either Aras or Danielle had a particularly strong or weak tribal council performance, as I think the outcome was mostly settled going in.
I have Panama right in the middle of tier 3 in my ongoing rankings.
Tier 1 1. Winners at War 2. Pearl Islands 3. Cagayan 4. Heroes v. Villains Tier 2 5. Cambodia 6. China 7. Tocantins Tier 3 8. Philippines 9. Blood v. Water 10. Panama 11. Vanuatu 12. Cook Islands 13. Kaoh Rong Tier 4 14. Game Changers 15. Micronesia Tier 5 16. Palau 17. Marquesas
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 23:56:50 GMT -5
I’m now 7 episodes into Gamechangers and Debbie has arrived lol! made me cackle lol
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Post by XAsstCoach on Aug 3, 2020 0:19:36 GMT -5
Survivor 40: WaW....
I don't like how they're counting the votes at tribal council. Its becoming so predictable mid-count. Player A get one vote, player B gets the next 3 and just when you think B is getting voted out player C get the next 5 votes. I think maybe one TC there was a back and forth in the count, and that made me sit on the edge of the seat. Just saw Tyson get voted out, same thing with Ethan and a few others.
Hate the fact that Amber got booted...loved her from her first appearance many years ago. And it was funny that Nick said he had a crush on Parvati when he was 18 and watching her on Survivor, and now when he hears her giggle during the immunity challenge he has to remember Parvati is now married, with kids...needs to stay focus on the challenge.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 3, 2020 9:37:29 GMT -5
I watched the first episode of David v. Goliath, and I think that is the Lost pilot of Survivor premieres. The cast seems great, and the show did a really good job of character development, as I felt like I knew much of the cast in one episode better than I have in entire other seasons. I also really like the theme and definitely think they should do it again at some point. The challenges were good, and the episode ended with a surprise medical evacuation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 15:43:17 GMT -5
I watched the first episode of David v. Goliath, and I think that is the Lost pilot of Survivor premieres. The cast seems great, and the show did a really good job of character development, as I felt like I knew much of the cast in one episode better than I have in entire other seasons. I also really like the theme and definitely think they should do it again at some point. The challenges were good, and the episode ended with a surprise medical evacuation. This is such a good cast. One of the better ones in the modern seasons
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 3, 2020 21:40:19 GMT -5
I'm a few episodes into David v. Goliath, and I think some of the votes have been highly questionable. Getting rid of Jeremy over Natalie (to be fair, he did kind of deserve it after he went Garrett Adelstein on his tribe, but voting out Garrett over J'Tia was also a dumb move strategically)? Alec voluntarily giving the Davids the numbers after the swap by flipping on the Goliaths? Okay... I guess we'll see how this all works out. Ordinarily, a player as entertaining as Jeremy getting voted out third would be a disaster, but this cast is so strong that there's at least half a dozen players just as entertaining.
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Post by XAsstCoach on Aug 4, 2020 22:47:06 GMT -5
Survivor 40...Oh Denise, you devil! You did exactly what I was thinking by voting Sandra out after making a deal. Priceless, and major points on your resume for this season. Yeah, I know who won already, but still this would have been quite impressive.
Not liking Wendell too much right now. Seems a bit more cocky than he was in Ghost Island. Doesn't bode well that it was revealed he cheated on Michele in real life. And Nick could have scored some points with Parvati by turning...too bad!
Overall, liking this season so far. I was getting sick of the "Well Played" at the end of every TC. Now we have players who just walk off. Seems like some of the old schools just never adapted to the evolved game. Social is one thing, but they're not going out looking for the idols. Rob got voted out and deservedly so, should have seen in the previous seasons that those who (tries to) controls the tribe gets voted out first.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 4, 2020 23:59:14 GMT -5
Survivor 40...Oh Denise, you devil! You did exactly what I was thinking by voting Sandra out after making a deal. Priceless, and major points on your resume for this season. Yeah, I know who won already, but still this would have been quite impressive. Not liking Wendell too much right now. Seems a bit more cocky than he was in Ghost Island. Doesn't bode well that it was revealed he cheated on Michele in real life. And Nick could have scored some points with Parvati by turning...too bad! Overall, liking this season so far. I was getting sick of the "Well Played" at the end of every TC. Now we have players who just walk off. Seems like some of the old schools just never adapted to the evolved game. Social is one thing, but they're not going out looking for the idols. Rob got voted out and deservedly so, should have seen in the previous seasons that those who (tries to) controls the tribe gets voted out first. By all accounts, including Michele's, Wendell got a really bad edit. I know that Michele expressed regret that she got into their personal relationship in confessionals, which the editors used to make Wendell look bad. Also, I don't know if it's true that he "cheated" on Michele. Hard to say for sure, but I think what probably happened is that she thought their relationship was more serious than he did, and that misunderstanding caused issues. A tale as old as time.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 5, 2020 15:19:27 GMT -5
I just got to John getting idoled out in David vs. Goliath. On the one hand, that was an amazing tribal, with two idols played. I figured that one of the Davids probably put a stray vote on a Goliath, so I kept waiting to see who it was. Much to my dismay, it was the Mayor of Slamtown himself, who was probably my favorite player on the entire season. I will say that he handled his exit with a ton of class, which made me like him even more.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 5, 2020 22:13:50 GMT -5
I don't even particularly care for Dan, but I think the idol nullifier is the dumbest advantage ever. If you have the numbers, it guarantees that the person you're voting for goes home. If the argument is that there are too many advantages in the game, I don't disagree (I think Cirie's elimination in Game Changers should be impossible if the game is structured correctly). But the solution isn't to create more advantages and allow power creep to take over. No, just have fewer idols and advantages or place more restrictions on them. Like I think maybe there should be one idol per camp at most, and they have to be used by no later than like 10 players left in the game. And then only one idol is rehidden after the merge, and that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2020 22:15:48 GMT -5
I don't even particularly care for Dan, but I think the idol nullifier is the dumbest advantage ever. If you have the numbers, it guarantees that the person you're voting for goes home. If the argument is that there are too many advantages in the game, I don't disagree (I think Cirie's elimination in Game Changers should be impossible if the game is structured correctly). But the solution isn't to create more advantages and allow power creep to take over. No, just have fewer idols and advantages or place more restrictions on them. Like I think maybe there should be one idol per camp at most, and they have to be used by no later than like 10 players left in the game. And then only one idol is rehidden after the merge, and that's it. Plus, if i remember correctly, dan/the rest of the cast didnt even know about the idol nullifier..... which is even more unfair
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Post by XAsstCoach on Aug 5, 2020 22:41:11 GMT -5
I don't even particularly care for Dan, but I think the idol nullifier is the dumbest advantage ever. If you have the numbers, it guarantees that the person you're voting for goes home. If the argument is that there are too many advantages in the game, I don't disagree (I think Cirie's elimination in Game Changers should be impossible if the game is structured correctly). But the solution isn't to create more advantages and allow power creep to take over. No, just have fewer idols and advantages or place more restrictions on them. Like I think maybe there should be one idol per camp at most, and they have to be used by no later than like 10 players left in the game. And then only one idol is rehidden after the merge, and that's it. Was it DvG that had too many idols? Also thought these later season did have too many idols (one season was ridiculous), like what's the point in the social game if you're going to have an idol in hand. Even in WaW I think there's too many idols/advantages with the ones being "sold" from extinction. Kind of miss the way it was played old school.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 5, 2020 22:51:39 GMT -5
I don't even particularly care for Dan, but I think the idol nullifier is the dumbest advantage ever. If you have the numbers, it guarantees that the person you're voting for goes home. If the argument is that there are too many advantages in the game, I don't disagree (I think Cirie's elimination in Game Changers should be impossible if the game is structured correctly). But the solution isn't to create more advantages and allow power creep to take over. No, just have fewer idols and advantages or place more restrictions on them. Like I think maybe there should be one idol per camp at most, and they have to be used by no later than like 10 players left in the game. And then only one idol is rehidden after the merge, and that's it. Was it DvG that had too many idols? Also thought these later season did have too many idols (one season was ridiculous), like what's the point in the social game if you're going to have an idol in hand. Even in WaW I think there's too many idols/advantages with the ones being "sold" from extinction. Kind of miss the way it was played old school. Yeah, I agree that there were too many advantages in Winners at War also. Thankfully, the right person won anyway.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 6, 2020 7:21:29 GMT -5
I don't even particularly care for Dan, but I think the idol nullifier is the dumbest advantage ever. If you have the numbers, it guarantees that the person you're voting for goes home. If the argument is that there are too many advantages in the game, I don't disagree (I think Cirie's elimination in Game Changers should be impossible if the game is structured correctly). But the solution isn't to create more advantages and allow power creep to take over. No, just have fewer idols and advantages or place more restrictions on them. Like I think maybe there should be one idol per camp at most, and they have to be used by no later than like 10 players left in the game. And then only one idol is rehidden after the merge, and that's it. I also didn't like when the idol could be played after the votes - happened in a couple season (Yul being the 1st one). Yul never used it - but that idol was so powerful (too powerful). I can agree that they have too many advantages and should try limiting them. One of the best things they have done - or should do - is more tribe switches. On one hand - it makes the game more unpredictable and thus unfair. But the real advantage is it forces players to play more week to week and form mini temporary alliances. I think there is more strategy with this.
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