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Post by cindra on Aug 17, 2020 16:30:20 GMT -5
UNC is transitioning to fully online classes after test positivity rose from 2.8% to 13% after the first week of in-person classes. Also allowing students to cancel on campus housing for free if they wish to go home. Constant parties and 0 regard for social distancing among large groups of the student body from what I've heard and seen. I remember Emmert saying they didn't want athletics happening at schools that were fully online. Does the NCAA have any power to effect that statement or will they be able to play anyway? “classes after test positivity rose from 2.8% to 13% after the first week of in-person classes. Also allowing students to cancel on campus housing for free if they wish to go home“ That makes it sound like they have an option of staying, however later in the paragraph it says - Residents who have hardships such as lack of access to internet, international students or student athletes will have the option to stay. That sounds to me like everyone else (undergrads) is going to be asked to leave.. Doesn't seem like they will be forcing anything yet, though. It says they're still looking for effective ways to reduce density. My advice: cancel for free now before they revoke it and kick people out without a refund.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 17, 2020 16:33:46 GMT -5
So we just infected a bunch of kids and now are dispersing them out into a bunch of different communities, with no follow-up testing or tracing? Brilliant. From a liability standpoint I understand why they did this. But from an epidemic standpoint, I have to imagine actions like UNC's are helping push this thing into 2021. Isn't that exactly what we did last march? It wasn't a pandemic yet, especially on most college campuses. Many colleges also didn't have time to formulate a plan to keep kids on campus indefinitely (Spring Break problems) where they should have been prepared now. It would be best to keep it contained on campus as long as they could. If they can't commit to doing that in an outbreak, they shouldn't bring kids to campus in the first place.
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Post by n00b on Aug 17, 2020 16:34:37 GMT -5
I remember Emmert saying they didn't want athletics happening at schools that were fully online. Does the NCAA have any power to effect that statement or will they be able to play anyway? Right. Emmert said that was the consensus among ADs and Presidents. I don’t think there was any point where he implied that would become an NCAA rule.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 17, 2020 16:36:26 GMT -5
UNC is transitioning to fully online classes after test positivity rose from 2.8% to 13% after the first week of in-person classes. Also allowing students to cancel on campus housing for free if they wish to go home. Constant parties and 0 regard for social distancing among large groups of the student body from what I've heard and seen. I remember Emmert saying they didn't want athletics happening at schools that were fully online. Does the NCAA have any power to effect that statement or will they be able to play anyway? So we just infected a bunch of kids and now are dispersing them out into a bunch of different communities, with no follow-up testing or tracing? Brilliant. From a liability standpoint I understand why they did this. But from an epidemic standpoint, I have to imagine actions like UNC's are helping push this thing into 2021. In the ever changing 'best' knowledge of COVID - UNC was one of the schools that decided to start school earlier and end at Thanksgiving because of the likelihood that a 2nd wave would hit this fall and the summer would be 'calm'. It wasn't that long ago that Arizona was experiencing the worst in terms of cases. Only Louisiana and Florida have had more cases per capita since the beginning. Arizona's 7-day peak on 7/6 was more than New York back in April. Yet over the last 7 days - 22 other states (plus Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands) have had more cases per capita.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 17, 2020 16:38:02 GMT -5
So we just infected a bunch of kids and now are dispersing them out into a bunch of different communities, with no follow-up testing or tracing? Brilliant. From a liability standpoint I understand why they did this. But from an epidemic standpoint, I have to imagine actions like UNC's are helping push this thing into 2021. In the ever changing 'best' knowledge of COVID - UNC was one of the schools that decided to start school earlier and end at Thanksgiving because of the likelihood that a 2nd wave would hit this fall and the summer would be 'calm'. It wasn't that long ago that Arizona was experiencing the worst in terms of cases. Only Louisiana and Florida have had more cases per capita since the beginning. Arizona's 7-day peak on 7/6 was more than New York back in April. Yet over the last 7 days - 22 other states (plus Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands) have had more cases per capita. Yup. The second spike that didn't happen because the first spike plateaued so high. The "ever-changing" knowledge is key here. In March, nobody knew what the hell to do and everyone was pawing in the dark at an answer (we didn't even have the testing capacity to make/follow solid plans). Colleges should have a plan in place for containing mini-outbreaks. UNC either didn't or had an exceptionally %*$#ty one.
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 17, 2020 16:42:46 GMT -5
UNC is transitioning to fully online classes after test positivity rose from 2.8% to 13% after the first week of in-person classes. Also allowing students to cancel on campus housing for free if they wish to go home. Constant parties and 0 regard for social distancing among large groups of the student body from what I've heard and seen. I remember Emmert saying they didn't want athletics happening at schools that were fully online. Does the NCAA have any power to effect that statement or will they be able to play anyway? Editorial: We all saw this coming cluster!!!!###$$$!!! (n) : a complex and utterly disordered and mismanaged situationStudent newspaper editorial sounds pretty pissed off. "cluster!!!!###$$$!!! (n) : a complex and utterly disordered and mismanaged situation"
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 17, 2020 16:43:51 GMT -5
There's a UW (Washington, the real UW) student working with us as a summer intern. She told me that she's been told most classes (and all big classes) will be online. Some small classes might be in-person.
Apparently they did not switch their schedule to start earlier, because she's still working with us until Sept 11. Late September would be the normal time for UW classes to start (quarter system).
I heard that the plan for MIT was that all classes would be online, but some students would be allowed on campus if they had jobs in labs.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 17, 2020 16:45:06 GMT -5
The "ever-changing" knowledge is key here. In March, nobody knew what the hell to do and everyone was pawing in the dark at an answer (we didn't even have the testing capacity to make/follow solid plans). Colleges should have a plan in place for containing mini-outbreaks. UNC either didn't or had an exceptionally %*$#ty one. 100%. I remember reading UNC's protocols several months ago (it was posted here) - don't remember it exactly - seemed like they were on top of things. The constant here seems to be the behavior of young adults. I know for sure that the people that are testing positive today is significantly younger on average than back in March/April/May.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 17, 2020 16:47:28 GMT -5
Any word from Arizona or Purdue. They were among the most aggressive in terms of getting students on campus. Of course that was before the huge Arizona outbreak.
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Post by ineedajob on Aug 17, 2020 16:47:58 GMT -5
There's a UW (Washington, the real UW) student working with us as a summer intern. She told me that she's been told most classes (and all big classes) will be online. Some small classes might be in-person. Apparently they did not switch their schedule to start earlier, because she's still working with us until Sept 11. Late September would be the normal time for UW classes to start (quarter system). I heard that the plan for MIT was that all classes would be online, but some students would be allowed on campus if they had jobs in labs. You're going to anger a bunch of Wyoming fans
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Post by JT on Aug 17, 2020 16:49:57 GMT -5
There's a UW (Washington, the real UW) student... University of Washington - founded 1861. University of Wisconsin - founded 1848. The UW was founded in 1848. The University of Washington came along 13 years later.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 17, 2020 16:54:46 GMT -5
Any word from Arizona or Purdue. They were among the most aggressive in terms of getting students on campus. Of course that was before the huge Arizona outbreak. UNC just closed campus after 103 people tested positive and the ACC is telling them “play ball”!
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Post by MonicaGeller on Aug 17, 2020 17:05:31 GMT -5
“classes after test positivity rose from 2.8% to 13% after the first week of in-person classes. Also allowing students to cancel on campus housing for free if they wish to go home“ That makes it sound like they have an option of staying, however later in the paragraph it says - Residents who have hardships such as lack of access to internet, international students or student athletes will have the option to stay. That sounds to me like everyone else (undergrads) is going to be asked to leave.. Doesn't seem like they will be forcing anything yet, though. It says they're still looking for effective ways to reduce density. My advice: cancel for free now before they revoke it and kick people out without a refund. Agreed - no full on shut down like there was in March, but I do read that as “we are gonna ask nicely” but please move out tone.
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 17, 2020 17:08:26 GMT -5
Any word from Arizona or Purdue. They were among the most aggressive in terms of getting students on campus. Of course that was before the huge Arizona outbreak. Clemson already announced in July that the first month of classes would be virtual, but then students would come in-person on Sept 21. It's like they never really intended for any students to be on campus, but needed to pretend that there would be for some reason. I wonder what that could be???
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Post by n00b on Aug 17, 2020 17:08:30 GMT -5
Any word from Arizona or Purdue. They were among the most aggressive in terms of getting students on campus. Of course that was before the huge Arizona outbreak. UNC just closed campus after 103 people tested positive and the ACC is telling them “play ball”! UNC athletes had probably been on campus for months. If anything, I think it shows that the sports piece is much safer than the general student population. Not sure if it's right to only have athletes on campus (even if it's just because of bad optics), but this is now a data point for schools to justify doing that if they want.
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