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Post by volleyman808 on Mar 8, 2021 0:08:44 GMT -5
Just checked out some volleyball careers:
Sara Putt (2016-2021)
Toni Rodriguez (2014-2021)
Wild!
Anyways, this is besides the point. This USC team is loaded. I look forward to seeing their matchup with the consensus #2, FSU.
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Post by kballer9 on Mar 8, 2021 0:24:42 GMT -5
I see where they are coming from. Who's really paying for this backlog caused by Covid? Well it's the underclassmen that would have been starting by now, and it's even the 2021, 2022 commits who's scholarship money has dried up because it's being used to fund these senior/graduates staying on extra seasons. That being said, it almost had to be done this way. Exactly, some these girls have redshirt years and injury years combined with COVID and it is college volleyball and these girls should have moved on by this point and play prof or begin a career. It won't be the best team anymore but the team that has the most hold backs and over-extended undergraduate careers. It is a bit much to see the grown adult women continuing on at the undergraduate level. |
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Post by kballer9 on Mar 8, 2021 1:02:16 GMT -5
Just checked out some volleyball careers: Sara Putt (2016-2021) Toni Rodriguez (2014-2021) Wild! Anyways, this is besides the point. This USC team is loaded. I look forward to seeing their matchup with the consensus #2, FSU. Agree! |
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Post by kballer9 on Mar 8, 2021 1:06:20 GMT -5
Completely agree, but it is a bit unfair that all of these girls are so old and you would think they would want to be moving on with their careers and not continue and continue and continue playing undergraduate volleyball. Let the young ladies that are in the correct age group play. Really? Move on. This conversation is old! How many times is this going to come up? They’re eligible, so they can play if they want. Period. We know you have a daughter or know someone who isn’t getting playing time. Maybe they need to work harder and get better. The best (eligible) players play. You have several old posts about “old” players and it looks like you have issues with Harward and Scoles (mainly Harward?). No issues, it is at a few schools and too many years in college volleyball, move on. |
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Post by kballer9 on Mar 8, 2021 1:12:56 GMT -5
I am curious as to what the problem is with graduate students being in the starting line up? USC has 3 grad students in the top 5 courts, UCLA has 2. With these girls losing last season of competition due to COVID, what is the cause of the talk during the matches? The coach should be playing his strongest players for the win. Why are people complaining about this? Because their daughter or friend is sitting on the bench. Lol No one on the bench, just feel dragging out too many years is not correct for all teams. |
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Post by watchdawgs on Mar 8, 2021 3:33:24 GMT -5
Gatekeeping on who should be eligible to play that's hilarious. If the players were good enough they would make the lineup regardless of age and class.
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Post by burbank55 on Mar 8, 2021 11:13:25 GMT -5
Whew, good thing there are not rules that force students out of college athletics at 22 years old. USC basketball player Tahj Eaddy just crushed UCLA on Saturday with a last second shot and he’ll turn 25 this July.
Utah and BYU allow their players to go on missions and regularly have players 24-26 years old, married with kids. Parents often hold their children back a grade so they’ll be more academically and athletically competitive. Rich parents can pay for extra coaching, tutoring to help with grades, travel to tournaments for exposure, etc. UCLA, Hawaii, FSU, LSU have huge recruiting advantages as public schools with lower tuitions for in state students. Life is not ‘fair’ in so many ways, but the strong survive and thrive.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 8, 2021 11:15:29 GMT -5
Because their daughter or friend is sitting on the bench. Lol No one on the bench, just feel dragging out too many years is not correct for all teams. Is there a team without a Grad transfer playing in the top 10? |
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Post by sonofdogman on Mar 8, 2021 11:21:16 GMT -5
No one on the bench, just feel dragging out too many years is not correct for all teams. Is there a team without a Grad transfer playing in the top 10? Somebody has to go around checking rosters and lineups over two weeks. I'm going to guess Grand Canyon. I don't know of any off the top of my head at LMU. |
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Post by beachconch on Mar 8, 2021 11:33:14 GMT -5
Is there a team without a Grad transfer playing in the top 10? Somebody has to go around checking rosters and lineups over two weeks. I'm going to guess Grand Canyon. I don't know of any off the top of my head at LMU. LMU has multiple 5th yrs starting |
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Post by ocbeachfan on Mar 8, 2021 12:23:13 GMT -5
Is there a team without a Grad transfer playing in the top 10? Somebody has to go around checking rosters and lineups over two weeks. I'm going to guess Grand Canyon. I don't know of any off the top of my head at LMU. Grand Canyon has 2 graduate students listed, but I believe both are transfers that could have played this year regardless of COVID. One from indoor and one who played 3 (one of those being 2020) years at Eckerd. So they fit the bill in the context of what JB is asking... |
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Post by JB Southpaw on Mar 8, 2021 14:04:00 GMT -5
So, it seems pretty even playing field.
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Post by socal3 on Mar 8, 2021 14:25:01 GMT -5
My daughter is a beneficiary of the extra year and if the extra year hadn’t been offered with the same full scholarship as the other four years she was headed to another PAC 12 school for indoor on a full. So either way, she was impacting the pecking order and potentially impacting younger players either on the beach roster or indoor roster. Same scenario for the other 3 returning seniors on her beach team. All four were headed for different indoor programs to obtain their masters.
Why can’t we think of this extra year as a wonderful gift to a bunch of seniors who were screwed out of their senior year... not just in athletics, but academics, career/internships (daughter and her friends internships were either cancelled entirely or reduced significantly and turned virtual) and socially. Not to mention most of these athletes have had to endure COVID illness or extended quantities. 2020 has been extremely brutal for athletes especially the seniors.
Furthermore, my daughter and another 5th year are only 21 and younger than a few other Jr/Sr on the team so the “old athlete” argument doesn’t necessarily apply to all 5th years.
Lastly, the cream rises to the top and there are plenty of underclass players on rosters across the county so the opportunity to win a position from a 5th year is there if the player wants it.
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Post by sonofdogman on Mar 8, 2021 15:26:39 GMT -5
Somebody has to go around checking rosters and lineups over two weeks. I'm going to guess Grand Canyon. I don't know of any off the top of my head at LMU. LMU has multiple 5th yrs starting Everybody has 5th years, regardless of top ten rank, due to the extra year granted by the NCAA. The question was not about that, but about grad transfers. |
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Post by sonofdogman on Mar 8, 2021 15:30:17 GMT -5
My daughter is a benefactor of the extra year and if the extra year hadn’t been offered with the same full scholarship as the other four years she was headed to another PAC 12 school for indoor on a full. So either way, she was impacting the pecking order and potentially impacting younger players either on the beach roster or indoor roster. Same scenario for the other 3 returning seniors on her beach team. All four were headed for different indoor programs to obtain their masters. Why can’t we think of this extra year as a wonderful gift to a bunch of seniors who were screwed out of their senior year... not just in athletics, but academics, career/internships (daughter and her friends internships were either cancelled entirely or reduced significantly and turned virtual) and socially. Not to mention most of these athletes have had to endure COVID illness or extended quantities. 2020 has been extremely brutal for athletes especially the seniors. Furthermore, my daughter and another 5th year are only 21 and younger than a few other Jr/Sr on the team so the “old athlete” argument doesn’t necessarily apply to all 5th years. Lastly, the cream rises to the top and there are plenty of underclass players on rosters across the county so the opportunity to win a position from a 5th year is there if the player wants it. You make lots of sense. And you have a first hand perspective to boot. Good luck with reason and authority changing the mind of others though, that's so... well heck I don't know when that was ever in style. |
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