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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 1, 2022 13:42:04 GMT -5
"we would win the natty every single year!!!!!" Why would you think that? Isn't that what Texas already does? Well, in this hypothetical scenario, "develop them into the best players in the world" would include developing good passers. Now, Texas may have figured out a way around this deficiency by just getting Zoe Fleck or someone of that ilk to transfer into the program. That's fair. 😉😁 |
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Post by beba on Jun 1, 2022 15:44:38 GMT -5
This is not a hypothetical. I am just pointing out how "simple" it is to win the national championship every year. And, of course, this means getting the best libero and ds players every year, and teaching them (should probably just take marn and hour or two in the gym) to make perfect passes every time, and the setters to make perfect sets every time, and the hitters to never get blocked and always get a kill. In fact, if you did it right, we would just get an ace on every serve, and win every set 25-0.
I sent an email to the full BYU staff, so I think all the problems are solved now.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 1, 2022 15:49:47 GMT -5
This is not a hypothetical. I am just pointing out how "simple" it is to win the national championship every year. And, of course, this means getting the best libero and ds players every year, and teaching them (should probably just take marn and hour or two in the gym) to make perfect passes every time, and the setters to make perfect sets every time, and the hitters to never get blocked and always get a kill. In fact, if you did it right, we would just get an ace on every serve, and win every set 25-0. I sent an email to the full BYU staff, so I think all the problems are solved now. Splendid. I will go ahead and make my travel arrangements for Omaha right now. |
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Post by hammer on Jun 1, 2022 15:59:19 GMT -5
This is not a hypothetical. I am just pointing out how "simple" it is to win the national championship every year. And, of course, this means getting the best libero and ds players every year, and teaching them (should probably just take marn and hour or two in the gym) to make perfect passes every time, and the setters to make perfect sets every time, and the hitters to never get blocked and always get a kill. In fact, if you did it right, we would just get an ace on every serve, and win every set 25-0. I sent an email to the full BYU staff, so I think all the problems are solved now. Splendid. I will go ahead and make my travel arrangements for Omaha right now. I hear Omaha is beautiful in December -- enjoy your trip! |
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 1, 2022 16:01:02 GMT -5
Splendid. I will go ahead and make my travel arrangements for Omaha right now. I hear Omaha is beautiful in December -- enjoy your trip! Lol. It definitely isn't. Source: I lived in the Lincoln area for five years when I was younger. |
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Post by rrvbfan on Jun 1, 2022 17:19:51 GMT -5
I didn't watch the V match vs Wave. Interesting perspective on the results. You need to remember that V doesn't appear to have had any high top 10 Open finishes in their 16-18's with the exception of the Covid JVA where there was almost no big clubs competing. So maybe a top 10 finish this year is just fine with them. They might not even know how good of a team they could have? As a club coach, I try to keep an eye on the competition and when you see something that is so out of the ordinary it makes you remember it. The V 17 rotation is so odd that it is either genius or the product of a coaches personality. I would be more inclined to think that there is merit to the madness if the players on V were more equal than they are. I am not calling the rotations crazy but either the coach simply doesn't watch his competition closely or he simply doesn't care what others are doing because he is totally into what he wants to do with his team from an ego standpoint. Sometimes bold breakthroughs are made in sports by "crazy" coaches who have totally different ideas. So, he might be a vb savant or something or he may just have the vb world's biggest ego. We will have to see what unfolds at nationals because it probably isn't fair to judge the situation before the "final" test of nationals. I am guessing Carlson always coaches the top teams at V. If I have time I might look back at the last few years and see if this rotation thing is done year over year?? Maybe this is the first year of the experiment? I believe the Club V 17s Head Coach is a woman =) the head coach is Reed Carlson. There is an assistant listed that is a woman, but she doesn’t do much of the coaching and shes Got a kid on the team. |
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Post by silverchloride on Jun 1, 2022 20:04:01 GMT -5
I believe the Club V 17s Head Coach is a woman =) the head coach is Reed Carlson. There is an assistant listed that is a woman, but she doesn’t do much of the coaching and shes Got a kid on the team. We have played them three times and I have talked with the coaches, but I am willing to concede I might be wrong =) |
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Post by rrvbfan on Jun 1, 2022 22:26:45 GMT -5
the head coach is Reed Carlson. There is an assistant listed that is a woman, but she doesn’t do much of the coaching and shes Got a kid on the team. We have played them three times and I have talked with the coaches, but I am willing to concede I might be wrong =) Reed coaches several teams. If there are conflicts in schedules they cover for each other. He also owns the club. He’s got a lot on his plate. |
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Post by mintonetteman on Jun 2, 2022 13:26:03 GMT -5
Interesting fact about Carolynn Bower from a close friend and former teammate that coaches in college and says he is a fan. She pushes all of her club kids (not just her daughters) to graduate a semester early--also, she consistently runs a 5-1 (which doesn't happen sometimes in the club world for financial reasons). He also said that the new director of her club, Crush, is JJ Riley (the former University of Utah assistant). We surmised if this means more Idaho kids will end up at University of Utah. Apparently she has a 15 year team that has a big time setter--and, get this, is NOT named Bower!
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Post by mintonetteman on Jun 2, 2022 13:27:23 GMT -5
Also, I heard a rumor that Carolynn Bower and Reed Carlson are related?  Anyone know if this is true? |
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Post by vvv on Jun 2, 2022 19:40:48 GMT -5
Good points here too!!!
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Post by vvv on Jun 2, 2022 19:49:22 GMT -5
Yup- V got 3rd, but we watched the game on Flovolleyball and he did not keep a team fresh with this method. They could have won the entire JVL if he followed more of what was suggested in the above post. If you watch the last game that they go to 3 with Wave. They are ahead and the first rotation goes out, in comes the second who never leaves the floor. They entirely fall apart and lose 7-15. This is not a philosophy coaches are adapting, if they want to win a national championship. If they win.... it will be despite of this system, not because of it. No other top team does this with players out of position and liberos in and out and a 6-2. Third is great, but not when you have a team that could easily take first. Bottomline. Having been in LB and with 17s Open, NO ONE could have "easily" won anything. Every match was a battle, and more often than not, went to a third set. |
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Post by vvv on Jun 2, 2022 19:51:42 GMT -5
You are right... Easily is not the right word to use. I just meant after watching the 3rd set, the first rotation went out at 3-4 and the 2nd rotation stayed in until the end kind of struggling until they lost 7-15. This left Mia out the entire rest of the game as well. The system is what I was knocking more. So, yes, all of those teams are top, top teams and could beat or lose at any given time.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 3, 2022 0:36:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2022 13:08:36 GMT -5
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Anyone know if this is true?