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Post by bbg95 on Jul 19, 2022 18:45:51 GMT -5
RJP did fine as a non member, she was from Utah, was married, so it wasn’t that big of a stretch for her. I honestly can’t remember any other non LDS girls that have contributed recently! The libero the last couple years, but IMO, she wasn’t good. She’s gone, anyway. I think Heather wants the best of the best-LDS or not. Sometimes the best player on a BYU team is not LDS. RJP wasn't. Ty Detmer (he didn't convert until after he had already won the Heisman). Jim McMahon. There's a superstar on another BYU women's team right now who isn't (I kind of suspected, but I wasn't sure until I saw her mention it in an interview recently). There's also another one who was literally the No. 1 recruit in the nation in cross country who will hopefully have a great career at BYU starting this fall. I really just think it comes down to the particular athlete (or even coach, in the case of star cross country and distance coach Diljeet Taylor). And we also don't always know who is or isn't LDS unless it gets media attention. There are athletes who I thought were LDS but weren't and vice versa. |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jul 19, 2022 19:40:29 GMT -5
Speaking of which, who's coming and going with their Sister Missionary activities?
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 19, 2022 19:45:46 GMT -5
Speaking of which, who's coming and going with their Sister Missionary activities? No idea if anyone is going. 6'4" middle blocker Allie Hakes is currently on a mission in Madrid. Looks like she started about 11 months ago. |
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Post by mintonetteman on Jul 20, 2022 14:29:26 GMT -5
Hey, anyone going to the BYU volleyball camp this week. I believe this is the week all the recruits come in. I usually get interesting feedback from my club moms on recruits and players as they typically play with each other. Not saying it is great info, but it is interesting. Psst....don't tell Marnvb2 but I heard another Bower girl committed to BYU ... she may have to find a really good therapist. There were recruits here last week for sure. Isn't this the week the recruits come in? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2022 19:30:40 GMT -5
There were recruits here last week for sure. Isn't this the week the recruits come in? Are you meaning like potential recruits for camp? Or like our actual ‘22 committed recruits for this fall? If you’re talking about potential recruits coming for their visit/camp, there were definitely some here last week, but there could be more coming this week. If you’re talking about the recruits for this fall, they are already all here. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jul 20, 2022 23:06:50 GMT -5
Just reread your comments about Bower being the second best player in the WCC last fall behind Koerber. You really think that Bower was a better player at her position than Gneiting and Esh were? I think not! I don't think it is even close. Yes. She was WCC Player of the Year in the spring, and Eschenberg was on that team. Also, both Eschenberg and Gneiting don't play six rotations. There was no measurement of top players in the league playing 6 rotations or just 3 rotations. If you look at the best players in the WCC at their respective positions Bower is the best setter. Both BYU MB's were the best in the WCC and KK was the best Opp. Comparing just the ability to play their position at a top level compared to their peers around the nation, Esh and Gneiting and kK were better elite players than Bower. 6 or 3 rotations doesn't matter to me. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jul 20, 2022 23:09:05 GMT -5
Maybe you ought to rewatch the Weber St match and see where Weber focused their offense. Then watch ball placement and blocking vs Pitt. Lastly watch the Purdue match every time Bower is on the front row. Setting decisions on dumps, not staying neutral, not using the MB's enough in the offense, and the Purdue OH's who consistently went right over Bower to find the BYU back row. Forgetting Bower for a while ..... because the pro Bower crowd will never admit that the girl is 5'6" and can't block well ..... but SD and A Bower are going to give BYU the same problem W Bower has. Both SD and A Bower, while talled than W Bower have less hops than she does. None of the 3 are good high level blockers. BYU will have a flaw in that area for the next 6 years and if there is one program that can't afford to not have an elite level blocker vs good OH's ....... putting even more pressure on their backrow ..... it is BYU! Enough said. Obviously, teams will try to hit over a shorter setter. That doesn't mean that their losses are due to that. As I said, it's almost always about passing. And the back row defense is perfectly fine. It's the passing that's the problem. Also, respectfully, you need to stop saying that Bower is 5'6" because then you have absolutely zero credibility whatsoever. She is a shorter setter, no doubt about that. But she's not 5'6". And no one is claiming that she's a great blocker. Obviously, she is not, though that weakness is pretty overblown when you consider everything else she does. Well Bower is 5' 6" as I and many other coaches have stood right by her. BYU lists her at 5'9" for competitive reasons. But she is no taller than 5'6" |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 20, 2022 23:11:27 GMT -5
Obviously, teams will try to hit over a shorter setter. That doesn't mean that their losses are due to that. As I said, it's almost always about passing. And the back row defense is perfectly fine. It's the passing that's the problem. Also, respectfully, you need to stop saying that Bower is 5'6" because then you have absolutely zero credibility whatsoever. She is a shorter setter, no doubt about that. But she's not 5'6". And no one is claiming that she's a great blocker. Obviously, she is not, though that weakness is pretty overblown when you consider everything else she does. Well Bower is 5' 6" as I and many other coaches have stood right by her. BYU lists her at 5'9" for competitive reasons. But she is no taller than 5'6" You have to stop saying that. BYU is not going to pointlessly exaggerate someone's height by three full inches. That won't help her block better. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jul 20, 2022 23:12:09 GMT -5
I don't know their names, only their numbers. If you can't look up their names then I doubt you really need them! There are only 2 L's/DS's on that V team so your search isn't a hard one. Ha ha ha ha ha... Our self-proclaimed expert on the "elite" back row players that BYU should be recruiting doesn't even know their names! Lot of good you are. #1 BYU isn't going to take a rec from me and #2 if they were ..... they would already now the names of those DS/L's on V's teams. Don't fret about it, while you may not know the names, others can figure them out. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jul 21, 2022 0:20:43 GMT -5
Omg….. 17v (what you are calling the 2s team but they told the parents/kids that the teams were equal and both 1s). 1 Ioana Asiata OH 5'11 9'9 2023 Herriman 2 Aubrey Nielsen OH 5'10 9'8 2023 Davis 4 Kaylin Scott S 5'9" 9'3" 2023 Mountain View 6 Ava Nakai OH 5'11" 10' 2024 Spanish Fork 7 Eve Wilson MB 6'3" 10'.5" 2023 Skyline 8 Hannah Hawkins S 5'11 9'7" 2022 Lone Peak High Point University 11 Camryn Lingenbrink MB 6'1 10'1 2021 Graduated 12 Myali Laufiso. UNCOMMITTED L/DS 5'8 9'6 2023Copperhills 15 Kaieva Johnson. UTAH L 5'8" 2023 Riverton 18 Sophia Wendt S 5'10" 9'3 2023 Farmington 19 Lucy Perez OH 5'10 9'9 2023 Mountain View 21 Rylee Parkinson OH/RS 5"11 10' 2023 Mountain Ridge 33 Elle McCandless MB The other 1s team. 3 Kambree Rodriguez Lib 5'9" 9' 6" 2023 Syracuse UTAH STATE 13 Mia Lee MB/OPP 6' 0 10' 7 1/2" 2023 Mountain View BYU 28 Madison Standifird OH/L 5' 9" 9' 10" 2023 Sky Ridge 1 Silina Damuni Setter 5' 9" 9' 6" 2023 Timpview BYU 16 Ireland McNees Pin Hitter 5' 9" 10' 2023 Mountain Ridge Lafayette College 12 Levani Key-Powell OH 5' 9" 10” 2024 Bingham 11 Kalia Kohler Setter/DS 5' 7" 9' 1" 2023 Lone Peak 21 Taliah Lee OH 6' 0 9' 11" 2023 Timpview 9 Olivia Ruy OH/OPP 6' 2 10' 2023 Woods Cross Arkansas University 10 Taylor Harvey MB/OPP 6' 2.5 10' 5" 2025 Bountiful 8 Jordyn Harvey OH 6' 1" 10' 5" 2023 Bountiful Pending Acceptance 22 Brielle Miller DS/L BYU Thank you rrvbfan for saving beba from a breakdown! #12 and #15. I know if I had their names it would have made a big difference and saved beba from many sleepless nights. 2 weeks after I brought them up I think #15 accepted at Utah. #12 has high upside also. #7 is a decent MB with upside that can play at a D-1 level. #8 in my notes took her team to #3 at nationals setting a 5-1 last year and has elite blocking ability. She was offered by Louisville but strangely went to High Point Univ. He also told me (unsolicited) that one Carlson was mad at #8 for some reason at the HS level so refused to coach her in club. That sounded really weird but bottom line is there was a substantial increase in the way the top V team competed vs the 2 team. Both platooned their players to get everyone pt on the court but it screwed up continuity IMO. V 2 team probably shouldn't have been in the open div as they were simply not very competitive and a pretty poor team at the end of the year. The sheer athletic ability of the 1 team was outstanding in the big players. There you go beba. Numbers but no names. |
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Post by marnvbc2 on Jul 21, 2022 0:23:36 GMT -5
You have to stop saying that. BYU is not going to pointlessly exaggerate someone's height by three full inches. That won't help her block better. You are right about her not blocking better regardless of the height listed in the program/website, but at 5'6" she would be a quick scouting report blip by any opposing coach. That is the reason! |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 21, 2022 0:35:59 GMT -5
You have to stop saying that. BYU is not going to pointlessly exaggerate someone's height by three full inches. That won't help her block better. You are right about her not blocking better regardless of the height listed in the program/website, but at 5'6" she would be a quick scouting report blip by any opposing coach. That is the reason! Do you really think opposing coaches will be fooled by an inaccurate roster height? If that's true, why not just list her at 6'2"? |
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Post by beba on Jul 21, 2022 0:53:51 GMT -5
Ha ha ha ha ha... Our self-proclaimed expert on the "elite" back row players that BYU should be recruiting doesn't even know their names! Lot of good you are. #1 BYU isn't going to take a rec from me and #2 if they were ..... they would already now the names of those DS/L's on V's teams. Don't fret about it, while you may not know the names, others can figure them out. Well, you're finally right about something. I will bet you $100 that Kaieva Johnson never makes an all conference team. Do we have a bet? |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 21, 2022 3:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 21, 2022 4:06:57 GMT -5
Some future Cougars were at the National Team Development Program. https://www.instagram.com/p/CgQxcsxsfXj That's Brielle Kemavor and Alex Bower. The third player is Suli Davis, who is a 2025, so she can't commit yet. But this looks promising. |
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